You have to wonder if any of the rural members of Trump's party realize that,

[Atticus]

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by discouraging masks and vaccinations, their vaccinated and boosted leaders are perfectly willing to kill them in order to drive down President Biden's poll numbers.

[Walleye]

1. Seems like they are perfectly willing to die if it harms Biden

[empedocles]

2. The rw identity politics of hate, seems to be a significant key to understanding the rw.

[Walleye]

3. Hatred, anger, and cruelty are the basic principles of today's GOP. They have nothing else

Self preservation seems to have in the lost in their fanaticism

[empedocles]

24. Yes. Self preservation seems to be secondary to their hatetred and even fatalism

[Walleye]

25. Sort of like trying to defeat suicide bombers

[calimary]

28. The only consolation is - they're ensuring that there are fewer of them.

And I certainly won’t weep over that.

If they’re that hellbent on doing themselves in for some lame-ass “cause,” it’s fine with me.

[Walleye]

29. Unfortunately, most of them have already procreated. So Darwin won't work

[Irish_Dem]

37. I think that is a good analogy.

They are heroes for the cause.

[modrepub]

18. More The Reason To Tie Federal Spending

to the Representative/Senator's votes in Congress. Your local Rep or Senator doesn't want to drive up the deficit with federal spending then they take a 50% cut of whatever is approved for their state and Congressional district when they vote against it.

At the very least, make all federal money matching. You want a new road or a dump truck, put up 30% locally generated money to get it. You don't want to raise taxes? Tough, do without then.

And they wonder why rural life spans are shorter...

[tanyev]

34. Many would rather be dead right than admit they're wrong.

[3Hotdogs]

4. --- and while lowering the numbers of their party members who will be alive to vote.

But I sure do feel "owned' when I read about them in D.U.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. You mean they are a tool but can't figure it out?

That's sad, and quite a shame, but they earned it.

[MissMillie]

6. Actually what some GOPers publicly said was that, it's the Dems trying to kill them, not TFG

They said that the Dems only back the mitigations efforts because they knew MAGAs couldn't agree with them... thus forcing the MAGAs into dangerous behavior.

[gab13by13]

8. GQPers do not have critical thinking,

it is impossible to have a debate with them because they will drag you down to their level of ignorance where they are experts.

[certainot]

26. they're all dittoheads or sons-o-dittoheads

[IronLionZion]

16. They're on to us

Yet they're still dying to own the libs. MAGA logic is too much for me to try to figure out. It's easier to just take a free vaccine.

[gab13by13]

7. Ignore the poll numbers,

the new narrative from the MSM is that president Biden is failing and those bogus poll numbers help to prove it.

It isn't hard to figure out what the right wing owned and managed MSM wants to push. Click channels on cable TV and the major news networks will all be talking about the same thing within minutes of one another. President Biden is not failing, he is doing a fantastic job.

[OldBaldy1701E]

9. Exactly! (n/t)

[Kaleva]

10. In MI, the great majority of Trump voters live in the urban or mostly urban counties.

Wayne County (metro Detroit) has had as many COVID19 deaths as all of Upper Michigan and the northern half of Lower Michigan combined.

[DownriverDem]

13. Not all are trumpers though

Many in Wayne County are black and afraid of the vaccinations because of the Tuskegee Experiment.

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

Macomb County and Northern Michigan are a different story.

[llmart]

31. This is a misleading statement.

You don't look at numbers of deaths for comparison. You look at per capita deaths.

The population of the entire UP is 3% of the entire state of Michigan.
The population of the entire northern are of the lower peninsula is 6%.

Together it's approx. 9% of the entire state of Michigan.

[Kaleva]

38. When counties have populations of 50k or less, rates per 100,00 doesn't mean much.

There's counties near where I live that have had less then a dozen COVID19 deaths since the pandemic started.


A rate that's a few percent higher then in urban counties may translate to 1 or 2 extra deaths per year.

[DownriverDem]

11. If trumpers are dead

they can't vote in 2022 and 2024. How will that work out for them?

[Atticus]

12. I am afraid they no longer plan to WIN the elections; they plan to

STEAL them, so, fewer votes is no problem.

[gab13by13]

17. Not enough of us understand that.

[DownriverDem]

27. I do but

I plan on fighting it all the way.

[keithbvadu2]

14. Leaders/influencers like Fox news who have their own vax mandate.

Leaders/influencers like Fox news who have their own vax mandate.

[IronLionZion]

15. MAGAts think it's very brave to die for freedom

while the rest of us live in ... also freedom.

Oh well, cities have more vaccinated people and more hospital capacity.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. RepubliQons & Taliban give lip service to their martyrs. . . . nt

[gab13by13]

20. There is no logical reason,

why one political party has made fighting a pandemic political. The GQPers have been so programmed to hate Democrats that they are willing to die to own the libs just to try to make president Biden look bad. Simple things like wearing a mask and social distancing should not be controversial, let alone getting a vaccine that keeps you alive.

You absolutely cannot argue with them. Way back I tried to convince a MAGAT to get vaccinated because I wanted him to survive. He yelled at me and called me names and that was it for me, not wasting any more time on them.

[CrispyQ]

21. Hopefully it will hurt their poll numbers next November.

We are going into year three of the pandemic & I'm out of sympathy for these people, both the politicians politicizing Covid, & the mindless, anti-vax/mask sheep that vote for them.

[liberal N proud]

22. They are to misinformed to understand they are pawns

[usaf-vet]

23. That would require independent thinking. That gene is clearly missing in 90% of Trump supporters.

That would require independent thinking. That gene is clearly missing in 90% of Trump supporters.

Sadly they are no different than drug users who don't realize the next hit has a good chance of killing them.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY WON'T BE VOTING.

[NewHendoLib]

30. there is no logic or reasoning when it comes to cults.

[Eyeball_Kid]

33. It's an old story:

The wealthy have, probably since the beginning of recorded history, and even before, suckered the poor into sacrificing their lives for the benefit of the wealthy. In this iteration, it's the GOP wealthy who are maintaining power through politicizing public health to the detriment of their voters. The organizers for the GOP have already calculated that their losses through death and disease are not enough to offset their gains through legislation and gerrymandering.

[Irish_Dem]

36. Yep. The death of their base is fine. They will just cheat more.

[Irish_Dem]

35. They are willing sheep being led to slaughter.

Dying and killing others for the cause is OK with them.