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Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:31 AM

You have to wonder if any of the rural members of Trump's party realize that,

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by discouraging masks and vaccinations, their vaccinated and boosted leaders are perfectly willing to kill them in order to drive down President Biden's poll numbers.

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Reply You have to wonder if any of the rural members of Trump's party realize that, (Original post)
Atticus Dec 2021 OP
Walleye Dec 2021 #1
empedocles Dec 2021 #2
Walleye Dec 2021 #3
empedocles Dec 2021 #24
Walleye Dec 2021 #25
calimary Dec 2021 #28
Walleye Dec 2021 #29
Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #37
modrepub Dec 2021 #18
tanyev Dec 2021 #34
3Hotdogs Dec 2021 #4
bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #5
MissMillie Dec 2021 #6
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #8
certainot Dec 2021 #26
IronLionZion Dec 2021 #16
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #7
OldBaldy1701E Dec 2021 #9
Kaleva Dec 2021 #10
DownriverDem Dec 2021 #13
llmart Dec 2021 #31
Kaleva Dec 2021 #38
DownriverDem Dec 2021 #11
Atticus Dec 2021 #12
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #17
DownriverDem Dec 2021 #27
keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #14
IronLionZion Dec 2021 #15
Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #19
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #20
CrispyQ Dec 2021 #21
liberal N proud Dec 2021 #22
usaf-vet Dec 2021 #23
NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #30
RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2021 #32
Eyeball_Kid Dec 2021 #33
Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #36
Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #35

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:33 AM

1. Seems like they are perfectly willing to die if it harms Biden

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Response to Walleye (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:42 AM

2. The rw identity politics of hate, seems to be a significant key to understanding the rw.

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Response to empedocles (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:43 AM

3. Hatred, anger, and cruelty are the basic principles of today's GOP. They have nothing else

Self preservation seems to have in the lost in their fanaticism

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Response to Walleye (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:14 AM

24. Yes. Self preservation seems to be secondary to their hatetred and even fatalism

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Response to empedocles (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:15 AM

25. Sort of like trying to defeat suicide bombers

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Response to Walleye (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:39 AM

28. The only consolation is - they're ensuring that there are fewer of them.

And I certainly won’t weep over that.

If they’re that hellbent on doing themselves in for some lame-ass “cause,” it’s fine with me.

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Response to calimary (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:40 AM

29. Unfortunately, most of them have already procreated. So Darwin won't work

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Response to Walleye (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:10 PM

37. I think that is a good analogy.

They are heroes for the cause.

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Response to Walleye (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:56 AM

18. More The Reason To Tie Federal Spending

to the Representative/Senator's votes in Congress. Your local Rep or Senator doesn't want to drive up the deficit with federal spending then they take a 50% cut of whatever is approved for their state and Congressional district when they vote against it.

At the very least, make all federal money matching. You want a new road or a dump truck, put up 30% locally generated money to get it. You don't want to raise taxes? Tough, do without then.

And they wonder why rural life spans are shorter...

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Response to Walleye (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:37 PM

34. Many would rather be dead right than admit they're wrong.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:45 AM

4. --- and while lowering the numbers of their party members who will be alive to vote.

But I sure do feel "owned' when I read about them in D.U.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:54 AM

5. You mean they are a tool but can't figure it out?

That's sad, and quite a shame, but they earned it.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:00 AM

6. Actually what some GOPers publicly said was that, it's the Dems trying to kill them, not TFG

They said that the Dems only back the mitigations efforts because they knew MAGAs couldn't agree with them... thus forcing the MAGAs into dangerous behavior.

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Response to MissMillie (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:05 AM

8. GQPers do not have critical thinking,

it is impossible to have a debate with them because they will drag you down to their level of ignorance where they are experts.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:19 AM

26. they're all dittoheads or sons-o-dittoheads

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Response to MissMillie (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:52 AM

16. They're on to us

Yet they're still dying to own the libs. MAGA logic is too much for me to try to figure out. It's easier to just take a free vaccine.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:01 AM

7. Ignore the poll numbers,

the new narrative from the MSM is that president Biden is failing and those bogus poll numbers help to prove it.

It isn't hard to figure out what the right wing owned and managed MSM wants to push. Click channels on cable TV and the major news networks will all be talking about the same thing within minutes of one another. President Biden is not failing, he is doing a fantastic job.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:14 AM

9. Exactly! (n/t)

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:22 AM

10. In MI, the great majority of Trump voters live in the urban or mostly urban counties.

Wayne County (metro Detroit) has had as many COVID19 deaths as all of Upper Michigan and the northern half of Lower Michigan combined.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:34 AM

13. Not all are trumpers though

Many in Wayne County are black and afraid of the vaccinations because of the Tuskegee Experiment.

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

Macomb County and Northern Michigan are a different story.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:57 AM

31. This is a misleading statement.

You don't look at numbers of deaths for comparison. You look at per capita deaths.

The population of the entire UP is 3% of the entire state of Michigan.
The population of the entire northern are of the lower peninsula is 6%.

Together it's approx. 9% of the entire state of Michigan.

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Response to llmart (Reply #31)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 07:29 PM

38. When counties have populations of 50k or less, rates per 100,00 doesn't mean much.

There's counties near where I live that have had less then a dozen COVID19 deaths since the pandemic started.


A rate that's a few percent higher then in urban counties may translate to 1 or 2 extra deaths per year.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:30 AM

11. If trumpers are dead

they can't vote in 2022 and 2024. How will that work out for them?

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:34 AM

12. I am afraid they no longer plan to WIN the elections; they plan to

STEAL them, so, fewer votes is no problem.

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Response to Atticus (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:52 AM

17. Not enough of us understand that.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:27 AM

27. I do but

I plan on fighting it all the way.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:49 AM

14. Leaders/influencers like Fox news who have their own vax mandate.

Leaders/influencers like Fox news who have their own vax mandate.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:50 AM

15. MAGAts think it's very brave to die for freedom

while the rest of us live in ... also freedom.

Oh well, cities have more vaccinated people and more hospital capacity.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:56 AM

19. RepubliQons & Taliban give lip service to their martyrs. . . . nt

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:01 AM

20. There is no logical reason,

why one political party has made fighting a pandemic political. The GQPers have been so programmed to hate Democrats that they are willing to die to own the libs just to try to make president Biden look bad. Simple things like wearing a mask and social distancing should not be controversial, let alone getting a vaccine that keeps you alive.

You absolutely cannot argue with them. Way back I tried to convince a MAGAT to get vaccinated because I wanted him to survive. He yelled at me and called me names and that was it for me, not wasting any more time on them.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:01 AM

21. Hopefully it will hurt their poll numbers next November.

We are going into year three of the pandemic & I'm out of sympathy for these people, both the politicians politicizing Covid, & the mindless, anti-vax/mask sheep that vote for them.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:03 AM

22. They are to misinformed to understand they are pawns

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:05 AM

23. That would require independent thinking. That gene is clearly missing in 90% of Trump supporters.

That would require independent thinking. That gene is clearly missing in 90% of Trump supporters.

Sadly they are no different than drug users who don't realize the next hit has a good chance of killing them.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY WON'T BE VOTING.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:48 AM

30. there is no logic or reasoning when it comes to cults.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:24 PM

33. It's an old story:

The wealthy have, probably since the beginning of recorded history, and even before, suckered the poor into sacrificing their lives for the benefit of the wealthy. In this iteration, it's the GOP wealthy who are maintaining power through politicizing public health to the detriment of their voters. The organizers for the GOP have already calculated that their losses through death and disease are not enough to offset their gains through legislation and gerrymandering.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:09 PM

36. Yep. The death of their base is fine. They will just cheat more.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:08 PM

35. They are willing sheep being led to slaughter.

Dying and killing others for the cause is OK with them.

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