So, when does Manchin announce he's switching parties?

[berni_mccoy]

All those arguments that he was on our side bring us so much comfort now right? I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop….

[Arazi]

1. Whenever Koch ponies up Manchin's fee

It's got to be astronomical or Manchin would have already jumped ship

[LakeVermilion]

2. If he switches parties

he'll just be another member of the senate. His fifteen minutes would end.

He's obviously decided to let this be his footnote in American history. In a year or two all of it will be lost in climate change.

[MineralMan]

3. Yes.

[essaynnc]

4. why hasn't he already??

DINO in a red state, the Turtle has to be itching to get his old job back, tfg would like nothing better than to stop the investigation into jan. 6, a million other reasons.

Perhaps Kinzinger and Chenny will jump ship to keep the investigation going???

There are obviously things going on tha we don't know....

[FelineOverlord]

12. I thought the House was running the January 6th investigations?

Manchin and McConnell are in the Senate.

Kinzinger and Cheney are in the House.

[essaynnc]

15. oops, you are correct

[Elessar Zappa]

5. We still need him for judges.

He’s been good about confirming Biden’s picks so far. I hate him too but it would be terrible if he became a Republican.

[onenote]

16. +1000

VP Harris has broken more 50-50 ties in ten months than any VP since the 19th century.

[onenote]

17. +1000

VP Harris has broken more 50-50 ties in ten months than any VP since the 19th century.

[berni_mccoy]

23. That really means nothing given the extreme election

Changes being made. We will lose all three branches for a very long time come 2024

[Emile]

6. Why would he? He has more power than the president.

When should we start calling him President Manchin?

[Ocelot II]

7. If he switches to GOP he won't have the same power he has now.

He'll be just another senator, and one the GOP won't trust, since he's just a plutocrat and not a full-on Trumper. As a putative Democrat in a split senate he has lots of power - arguably all of it - and gets to make the news and have his ass kissed on a daily basis. If he switched he'd be an unimportant nobody from an unimportant state.

[VMA131Marine]

9. Manchin would get primaried from the right

And lose if he became a Republican.

[mucifer]

10. lobbyists make tons of money compared to senators. As a repub he won't care if he loses

[Thomas Hurt]

11. As long as he has a D by his name he is a swing vote, giving him a lot of power.

Personally, I think he is another narcissist feeding his ego.

[Tommymac]

13. He has been more effective as a 1% Congressional Democratic Trojan Horse.

He does not need to switch parties - he has more power right where he is.

The 1% Authoritarians KNOW this and planned it.

I am so fucking pissed right now- all the hard work of t he past 18 months has been rendered moot by this fucking asshole.

Sen Joe Manchin is an ASSHOLE. A TRAITOR. A LIAR. May he and his legacy rot in hell.

[Edwcraig]

14. Would that not give Republicans and McConnell control of the Senate?

Is this something we want to encourage? What am I missing here?

[onenote]

18. Your not missing anything

The DUers that want him to join the GOP are thrones that are missing the repercussions that would follow.

[Efilroft Sul]

19. People need to understand that Mitch McConnell is still effectively in control of the Senate.

Sure, he doesn't have the title of Senate Majority Leader, but Schumer doesn't have the power that comes with that title. And by allowing Manchin and Sinema to continue scuttling the party's agenda, Schumer never will.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

[LisaL]

20. Why would he?

If he switched, he would be one of many.
As it is, he get all of the attention.

[berni_mccoy]

21. Ok, since so many people have asked...

Let’s say Democrats pick up one Senate seat in 2022, despite the red state election changes and everything else. (Note: we are currently predicted to pick up two, but that is a real stretch given all the election changes).

Then, that means Sinema’s block of filibuster reform is over and Manchin’s and Sinema’s hold over the Dems is gone.

But if Manchin goes R or even independent and caucuses with R’s on this, then Biden’s agenda is entirely sunk and the Voting Rights bill to undo all the extreme measures for R’s to maintain control in over elections is dead. Which means we lose all three branches come 2024.

[LisaL]

22. Yes, he has us between a rock and a hard place.

NT

[Takket]

24. He already has: DINO

[634-5789]

25. He doesn't have to announce something he's pretty much already done.

I find his attitiude and logic shameful for the good people of one of the poorest States in the Union.