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If everything in BBB is so popular, (Original Post) Jose Garcia Dec 2021 OP
The reason why BBB was voted down wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #1
The filibuster. Salviati Dec 2021 #2
It's popular to We The People. Corporate backed Politicians, not so much. Tommymac Dec 2021 #3
Well atreides1 Dec 2021 #4
A majority of our leaders refuse to do what is popular with citizens. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #5
Why not? Rhiagel Dec 2021 #6
1000+++... global1 Dec 2021 #7
Because then it can be filibustered. Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #8
Making them block popular programs would be shrewd politics leftstreet Dec 2021 #9
DURec Even the hapless Bill Kristol agrees with you leftstreet Dec 2021 #10
I'm not certain but I think they can only use reconciliation a limited amount of times In It to Win It Dec 2021 #11
 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
1. The reason why BBB was voted down
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:47 PM
Dec 2021

Was BECAUSE it got broken down from BIF in the first place.

Plus you can't do reconciliation on a whole slew of bills.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
2. The filibuster.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:47 PM
Dec 2021

Gotta pack it all in a single bill in order to use reconciliation to get it past the filibuster.

atreides1

(16,063 posts)
4. Well
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:50 PM
Dec 2021

It's popular with the American people...not the senate Republicans!

And without any support from the Republicans it would have to be done under reconciliation...and Manchin would still join the Republicans and vote against those bills!!!

Of course that would put both Manchin and Sinema on the record...along with every Republican senator...something that the Democrats might be able to use in 2022!

Irish_Dem

(46,358 posts)
5. A majority of our leaders refuse to do what is popular with citizens.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:51 PM
Dec 2021

They do what is best for themselves and the wealthy corporate interests.
Changing the voting procedures will not change that fact.

Rhiagel

(1,676 posts)
6. Why not?
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:27 PM
Dec 2021

Make the Repukes have to physically filibuster EVERY SINGLE BILL until the cows come home. If they want to talk ad nauseam for eternity to stop help to Americans, then put it in their court. Let the 6 'O'Clock News Hour show the clowns obstructing assistance every single day without anything getting done.

global1

(25,216 posts)
7. 1000+++...
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:58 PM
Dec 2021

That's actually Bernie's strategy with respect to Manchin.

It would work equally well if employed against the Repugs as well.

Good idea - push through the various parts of BBB - piecemeal. Get the traitors on record.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,531 posts)
8. Because then it can be filibustered.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:16 PM
Dec 2021

I guess you haven’t been paying attention.

BBB is currently a reconciliation bill, which means it can pass with a simple majority.

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
10. DURec Even the hapless Bill Kristol agrees with you
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:20 PM
Dec 2021

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Say what you want about him, but he's a savvy political commentator
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