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hlthe2b
(113,971 posts)
demmiblue
(39,720 posts)I remember that night (SOTU 2019) and our Dem women wearing suffragette white. It was a powerful statement.
calimary
(90,021 posts)I was SO proud of all those women that night! They speak for me!
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)There.
I didn't say it.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)He used to be hated by only 50% of the people in this country (Republicans), now he is hated by all 100%
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Appropriate pic of the 2 who stood firm against Biden's most perfect gift to his country in decades.
Be proud!!
George II
(67,782 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)
paleotn
(22,218 posts)
Polybius
(21,900 posts)The other didn't matter.
George II
(67,782 posts)Yea or Nay. A House or Senate vote isn't an essay.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)It was watered down.
Budi
(15,325 posts)They said NO to BIF & saying NO to their constituents back home.
Manchin said Yes to BIF and NO to BBB early on.
There should not have been any No votes, had they considered who that NO vote was ignoring. The people back home.
That's who Biden's bill was written for.
NOT the legislators to grandstand upon for months while we all waited for them to finish.
George II
(67,782 posts)paleotn
(22,218 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)One knew the bill would pass and voted her conscience. The other knowingly brought down Joe Biden's agenda and handcuffed the Democratic Party. Pretending the two are remotely the same is simply lying.
calimary
(90,021 posts)There OS a difference.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Everyone else who voted yes, managed to do so, for the people who Biden's bill was meant for.
The summer shit show we witnessed as we waited & waited, stalling it all, wasn't for the people back home. It was for themselves.
That's what their NO Votes said.
They knew damned well like everyone else in Congress that Manchin would never vote on the entire combined bill.
They knew it too
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Your guy just shit the bed, the wattaboutism isn't a good look for you right now.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)..the backlash they all heard about from their communities back home.
Remember that?
Their No Vote stands regardless how they spin it today.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)And you’re trying to equate it to what Manchin did today? It’s a disingenuous spin. Why do it?
Budi
(15,325 posts)Seriously? They couldn't just vote Yes on behalf of their communities back home?
Wtf was a protest vote telling their communities as they stood & watched their streets flood.
Who are they there for if not the communities of their State.
JFC.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Either a Representative or a Senator approves of what's in a bill or doesn't. That results in a Yea vote or a Nay vote.
As I've said elsewhere, it's one or the other - it's not a conditional vote, there's no text box on the electronic device they use to cast their votes, and it's not an essay question.
Vote on Bill XYZ:
Yea if you approve of what is in the bill
Nay if you don't approve of what's in the bill
If one votes Yea he/she is voting FOR the bill
If one votes Nay he/she is voting AGAINST the bill
Remember, prior to proceeding to a vote there's a debate of an hour, three hours, or whatever. THAT is the time to make points for or against a bill. THAT is the time to "protest" a bill.
Then just vote. Period.
George II
(67,782 posts)....what was in the bill but voted no, what about the bill was objectionable?
Did she not want to get the flooded subways in the Bronx repaired for her constituents?
Did she not want the Cross Bronx Expressway repaired to eliminate congestion and noxious emissions for her constituents?
Did either of those two aspects of the infrastructure bill concern her?
Remember, a big part of the "Green New Deal" is eliminating automobile exhaust and fumes.
So, what was it about THIS bill, the one that was being voted upon, that she disapproved of?
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Except for a few people such as yourself who are being willfully disingenuous to deflect from the embarrassing behavior of Senator Manchin by trying to draw a parallel where none exists. She voted against the previous bill because she knew untethering the bills would lead to the delay and defeat of BBB. Seems she was quite prescient in that regard.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)paleotn
(22,218 posts)They're just interested in nit picking someone they don't like.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)They all knew Manchin wasn't going to vote for BBB. The whole Congress knew it. That's why it was divided into 2 parts.
Every other Yes vote was done with the people of their communities in mind. How they would benefit.
They made a mockery of that necessity by stalling it for months, all the while knowing as the rest of Congress did, that Manchin was never going to agree on BBB.
They can stop spinning as tho they won something today.
They voted No & Manchin voted No.
That's where it ends up after the noise clears.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)
Joinfortmill
(21,164 posts)
malaise
(296,103 posts)She. Knew
demmiblue
(39,720 posts)
Torchlight
(6,830 posts)about Manchin as well as about those so loyally putting glitter and lipstick on his words.
pwb
(12,669 posts)He even looks like trump. He for sure would have been trumps go to Democrat. We are lucky their Duo was stoped but we are stuck with him.