We should have known that Manchin was going to vote against BBB act

[Lawrence454]

I had my suspicion for months epsically after that fake CBO score he had Lindsey Graham request. He was telling us in the press, he had problems with it and using Republican talking points such as Socialism. I was even fooled because the white house and senate democrats was telling us different and was neoigating something different. If Manchin didn't have any problems with BBB we would have passed this months ago but he kept trying to delay it, basically telling us that he was always a no on BBB.

I hate this but we need to elect more Democratic senators in 2022 to override Manchin.

[Voltaire2]

1. A lot of us knew this was exactly what was going to happen.

The only mystery is why the Democratic Party leaders didn't understand that Manchin was just trolling.

[gab13by13]

4. C'mon man, they all knew.

Why do you think that Speaker Pelosi tied the infrastructure bill and BBB bill together. She did it because she knew that voting on the infrastructure bill first would doom president Biden's signature bill. She held out as long as she could and made a calculated decision that the BBB bill may never get passed. If Speaker Pelosi knew, the rest of her caucus knew.

[Walleye]

8. Yep. That is accurate

[Firestorm49]

11. In my earlier days of buying in Antwerp, the shaking of the hands was the binding of the deal,

along with the saying, “Do we have mazal?” Please correct me if I have misspelled mazal. The agreement of mazal meant that there was no more negotiating. The deal was done.

It is my understanding that Biden and Manchin shook hands in the Oval Office to seal the deal.

Manchin is playing the Republican game - delay, delay, delay. We need to move past him with serious legislation passed at any cost, because that’s what we’re being dealt. It’s time to fight, and hard.

[Wounded Bear]

2. Your last sentence is the only one that really matters...

"I hate this but we need to elect more Democratic senators in 2022 to override Manchin."

I just hope we can. My senators are both Dems and are pretty safe in this state. Getting more non-conservative Dem senators would be nice.

[lapfog_1]

3. plus we need to win the House too...

with things they way they are right now, that might be the taller order.

Fair or not, voters will blame Democrats for the Omicron Covid, the inflation, and the propaganda being spewed by the traitor media.

[gab13by13]

6. GQPers are rigging the game so that issues won't even matter.

They are gerrymandering their way to win the House. In Texas they put Sheila Jackson Lee and Al Greene in the same district which means Democrats just lost 1 House Representative and nothing can be done to overcome that by GOTV. Other states are doing the exact same thing. DOJ is challenging Texas in the courts but once laws are passed it is a lot harder to get them repealed.

[relayerbob]

5. Certainly is no surprise for me

[gab13by13]

7. I'm surprised that people are surprised.

[Mary in S. Carolina]

9. We did know

[berni_mccoy]

10. We knew. Moderates fucked this up.

[Irish_Dem]

12. It's no longer about the BBB. It is direct sabotage of Biden

and our party.