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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 11:02 AM Dec 2021

This elephant is not just "in the room"; it owns the premises.

Wyoming, a reliably red state, gets one US Senator for each 295,007 of its citizens.

California, a reliably blue state, gets one US Senator for each 19,370,000 of its citizens.

Similar, but less extreme inequities exist with many other states.

This has made "one man, one vote" and "majority rule" jarring phrases to me for decades.

Apples ain't bananas, folks, no matter how many times you misname them.

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This elephant is not just "in the room"; it owns the premises. (Original Post) Atticus Dec 2021 OP
The representation is one thing, but so much worse in the electoral college. bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #1
The electoral college is the original gerrymander... Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #3
+1,000! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #2
It's like the pre-1832 British Parliament...the "Rotten Borough" system... First Speaker Dec 2021 #4
my company has a "WFA" lapfog_1 Dec 2021 #5
These past years has really shown the numerous flaws in your democracy Bev54 Dec 2021 #7
The inherent flaw in our system is that it depends on people of good faith being in charge... Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #8

Response to Atticus (Original post)

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
4. It's like the pre-1832 British Parliament...the "Rotten Borough" system...
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 11:08 AM
Dec 2021

...our system has become every bit as corrupt as it was. It took a near-revolution to change things there. Maybe something similar will be necessary someday here...

lapfog_1

(31,772 posts)
5. my company has a "WFA"
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 11:08 AM
Dec 2021

Work From Anywhere.

If 280,000 Democratic high tech workers moved from California to Wyoming... we would own the Senate. California would not miss us at all.

I am looking into this... Also, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, and possibly even Utah could be flipped Blue by reallocating where people live in the new virtual work environment.

I love Arizona... I just hate the people that live there.

Bev54

(13,320 posts)
7. These past years has really shown the numerous flaws in your democracy
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 12:18 PM
Dec 2021

I once thought the US system was great, but the more I have seen, the more I am happy with our Parliamentary system in Canada.

Wounded Bear

(63,970 posts)
8. The inherent flaw in our system is that it depends on people of good faith being in charge...
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 01:25 PM
Dec 2021

The Founders attempted to put in some checks and balances, but obviously not enough to survive the 20th/21st Centuries.

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