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What do you think the correct verdict is in the Kimberly Potter case? (Original Post) Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2021 OP
Looks like a tough decision. hollygolively Dec 2021 #1
Guilty, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2021 #2
What about deadly car crashes? Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2021 #7
Yep RobinA Dec 2021 #22
Intent isn't relevant to the charges she faces UnderThisLaw Dec 2021 #25
Guilty. Training officer couldn't tell the difference between gun or taser. cbabe Dec 2021 #3
Totally agree. LoisB Dec 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #15
Negligent homicide. 2naSalit Dec 2021 #4
She did realize she had failed in her judjgement, that's why she quit a career she enjoyed for many Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2021 #10
It leaves me wondering... 2naSalit Dec 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #17
That's eactly what I mean. 2naSalit Dec 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #19
She should have been behind a desk, not on the streets. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #23
She had earned promotions for desk jobs, but she turned them down, Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2021 #24
That's interesting. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #29
Can't kill anyone sitting behind a desk. I still think it was 2nd degree murder. marie999 Dec 2021 #30
She's clearly guilty of negligence. PTWB Dec 2021 #5
Guilty Beachnutt Dec 2021 #6
The videos are her friends. Sneederbunk Dec 2021 #9
I don't believe there was any intent here, but she was negligent in carrying out her duties. Vinca Dec 2021 #11
The charge is second degree manslaughter iemanja Dec 2021 #12
Do you think she deserves jail time? Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2021 #13
Yes iemanja Dec 2021 #16
I do. 2naSalit Dec 2021 #20
I think for her own safety and well being Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #21
Guilty of 2nd. degree murder or negligent homicide. sinkingfeeling Dec 2021 #26
Guilty of murder by stupidity. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #27
Guilty. ismnotwasm Dec 2021 #28

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
7. What about deadly car crashes?
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:50 PM
Dec 2021

I just don’t see intent here. I’ve made some bad mistakes in my life. Fortunately none of them killed or seiously harmed anyone.

I saw someone comparing this case to the Kyle Rittenhouse case the other day. At least at some point he intended to harm his VICTIMS. I don’t believe he had any regret for what he did, but I believe she certainly does.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
22. Yep
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:39 PM
Dec 2021

I actually feel very sorry for her based on what we know. There was clearly no intent, it was an accident. And I am sympathetic to the notion that you can't be making mistakes in a gun situation. It was just a bad, bad situation. For the mistakenly killed guy as well as the accidental killer. I don't really think there is a correct verdict in this situation.

Response to cbabe (Reply #3)

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
4. Negligent homicide.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:47 PM
Dec 2021

She should have known so she was either a failure in her judgement and actions which should disqualify her from serving as LEO or she did it intentionally thinking yelling "tazer" would cover her. Either way, she killed someone without trial or legal due process while wearing a badge.

I have worn federal uniforms with badges and though I was not issued a firearm, not LEO, I still had many responsibilities that came with the badge that were not to be taken lightly.

I have no empathy fer her. She reminds me of that bimbo blonde going to jail because she thinks being white will absolve her from paying for her crimes.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
10. She did realize she had failed in her judjgement, that's why she quit a career she enjoyed for many
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:59 PM
Dec 2021

Years.

After this happened I would never be able to trust myself that I might not make such a stupid mistake again. But before this happened she probably didn’t believe she could fail in that way either.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
14. It leaves me wondering...
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:08 PM
Dec 2021

How many people did she kill that were not videoed?

She was training others that day too. I don't buy that she was so suddenly clueless that she grabbed the gun instead of the tazer. If she was that easily shaken that she couldn't measure her response to the current action, she should never have been training let alone actually carrying a gun with a badge.

After 26 years of being a cop and she couldn't tell the difference between a Glock and a tazer?

If you can't be serious enough to recognize your responsibilities while wearing a badge, you should not be wearing one, period.

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BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
23. She should have been behind a desk, not on the streets.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:45 PM
Dec 2021

Last edited Mon Dec 20, 2021, 06:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Strikes me as someone who just skated by for years, never sticking her neck out, waiting for the pension.

Her fellow officers are lucky she was never in a situation where they had to depend on her to save their lives.

Unfortunately, one civilian was not so lucky. She was incompetent, and her superiors have much to answer for too.

I actually had a tiny bit of sympathy for her at the beginning, but the trial persuaded me she deserves none.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
24. She had earned promotions for desk jobs, but she turned them down,
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:51 PM
Dec 2021

Preferring to be be working out in the community.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
29. That's interesting.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 06:51 PM
Dec 2021

I didn’t know that.

But it’s probably easier to skate when you’re in your own car.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
5. She's clearly guilty of negligence.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:48 PM
Dec 2021

I haven't been following the case but saw the video. No intent to kill, very negligent actions, guilty of some lesser than murder but still serious charge.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
11. I don't believe there was any intent here, but she was negligent in carrying out her duties.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:00 PM
Dec 2021

She should be found guilty of something, but I don't think jail time is necessarily in order. Community service of some kind for an extended period might be a better penalty. I got the impression this woman had a whole lot on her plate at the time and had a trainee with her to boot. It's a horrible, horrible case and I hope the victim's family can find some comfort in knowing her intent wasn't to kill their loved one.

iemanja

(53,031 posts)
12. The charge is second degree manslaughter
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:02 PM
Dec 2021

and I think there is no question that she is guilty. The charge doesn't require intent.

ETA: There is a first degree manslaughter charge as well.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
13. Do you think she deserves jail time?
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:07 PM
Dec 2021

I agree she is guilty of negligence, and since it resulted in a death, it follows that she is guilty of negligent homicide. That alone would be a huge punishment for me, to realize that I had committed negligent homicide.

So for me, the proper punishment woul depend on intent and remorse. Some don’t think she is remorseful. I do.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
20. I do.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:30 PM
Dec 2021

The lessening of the punishment is why we have these problems in the first place, qualified immunity, it starts there.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
21. I think for her own safety and well being
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:37 PM
Dec 2021

she needs to spend some time in a medical facility where she can get some mental health care which I think she is in need of.

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