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BlueBlud

(57 posts)
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:06 AM Dec 2021

Monkeys know why we resist infrastructure. Time WE clue in.

Monkeys, given uneven rewards, usually refuse to trade in their tokens. They responded fine, giving their token in exchange for fair treatment, according to their perceptions. But if they spy another, getting more or better treats, then they refuse to trade their token [tax dollar].

Like monkeys, we humans are easily manipulated. We can be made to perceive unfairness, by any number of means. Those grooming the experiment, creating mayhem and strife, for their own purposes. And the experimenters, know what they are doing. Same as the global experimenters. But the experimenters, have traded in their lab coats, and instead hide behind mansion walls. They don't mingle with their monkeys. They own the monkeys.

Enter Trump. He mingles with the deprived monkeys, and even makes them believe he is one of the aggrieved. And yet, the monkeys don't seem to mind that the Trump ape, has golden toilets and unbelievably unfair share. Indeed, the monkeys believe that Trump is fighting to get them their fair share.

How do the experimenters get the monkeys to ignore the unfair share they want perpetuated to infinity? By causing the perception of unfairness.

The monkeys that are screeching about infrastructure, do so as they see that cosmopolitan areas enjoy rewards that they in their rural enclave cannot. They are encouraged to see those in cities, as undeserving of those rewards. As criminal monkeys. They are told that they are the moral, righteous monkeys. Deserving of the greater share, if not all of it.

Is it any wonder, that the superior feeling monkeys, don't want their children to learn about sharing? About the TRUE conditions of the cities and life outside their bubble. And to make matters worse, they watch as some monkeys, input requests for greater share, called pork barrel.

Democrats feel it is beneath their dignity to manipulate, or fashion the experiment. There are a few liberal monkeys that get it. And, they have had great success, in opening the eyes of some monkeys. We should learn from these monkeys. I am talking about Sanders and Warren. They have won over many of the screeching monkeys with their rhetoric. Indeed, some of the worst screeching monkeys even preferred these two's world view to the manipulated view created for them by those with golden toilets.

We on the left, MUST learn to deal with monkeys in a slightly cynical fashion, privy to the crude crass nature of us apes. We can still do that with the truth, and reality.

We must engage the monkeys in the sausage making. Make the equality upfront. Visual.

The screeching monkeys, have been taught to believe that warlords, ruling fiefdoms [states], offer them a better stab at hording the pleasures of plenty. And they busy themselves, by stealing industry and other trappings of culture, purposely depriving their fellow citizens of resources. In a zero sum game, for lack of a better term, soft civil war. Indeed, some of these areas, seek to be removed from the cage entirely [secession].

Those with golden toilets, have been perfecting psyops, for many years now. They employ knowledgeable manipulators. Experts in creating perceptions that can be used to cause strife. This strife is the fig leaf, that obscures their golden toilets.

Time for us civil monkeys, to grow up. To battle against the false perceptions allowed by our senses of superiority. Time to worry less about our Authenticity, and more about the perceptions we create.

Our task is great, as malevolent monkeys have an advantage, which is evidenced by the proclivity of apes and monkeys, to raid their neighbors stores, to supplement their comfort. This being the chief method of advance till very recently.

We have outgrown our human natures. And yet, those natures are being used against us. Our task made even more arduous, by the screeching monkeys insistence on the rank-and-file monkey deeming understanding of human nature as squishy science.

We are being encouraged, and moulded, to remain ignorant of our human natures. When in reality, we haven't learned a God damn thing in all our years of dominance on this planet.
The monkeys have much to teach us.

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About a decade ago, Dr. de Waal and a Georgia State University professor Sarah Brosnan noticed something in the behavior of their Capuchin monkeys. In their experiments involving tasks and rewards, they saw that the monkeys weren’t just focusing on the reward they received for the work. They were also watching what the other monkeys were getting as rewards.

“They shouldn’t be doing that,” Dr. de Waal said, “They should only care about how much work they put in and what they get for it.”
https://www.wabe.org/why-monkeys-care-about-fairness-and-what-it-means-us/

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We have known about this for quite some time.

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The sons that worked diligently, resented the johnny come lately, taking a larger portion than the others felt he EARNED.

The Unforgiving Servant - Matthew 18:23-35
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“Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold was brought to him. Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.

“At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.

“But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins. He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.

“His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’

“But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.

Laborers in the Vineyard - Matthew 20:1-16
“When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’

“The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’

“But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
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Monkeys know why we resist infrastructure. Time WE clue in. (Original Post) BlueBlud Dec 2021 OP
do what now WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #1
Use the knowledge of human nature, crass and unseemly though it may be, to battle those with golden BlueBlud Dec 2021 #2
Did some editing (mostly comma removal) for an easier read gristy Dec 2021 #3
Time to fess up. I studied Bonobo's for four years plus. BlueBlud Dec 2021 #4
 

BlueBlud

(57 posts)
2. Use the knowledge of human nature, crass and unseemly though it may be, to battle those with golden
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:28 AM
Dec 2021

toilets [rentseekers].

We need to employ, likewise, experts in perception. Witness the advantages of the lincoln project, to our own efforts in perception.

We use ridicule and condescending humor effectively, but not perception shaping.

gristy

(10,733 posts)
3. Did some editing (mostly comma removal) for an easier read
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 11:07 AM
Dec 2021

Given uneven rewards, monkeys usually refuse to trade in their tokens. They respond fine, giving their token in exchange for fair treatment, according to their perceptions. But if they spy another getting more or better treats, then they refuse to trade their token [tax dollar].

Like monkeys, we humans are easily manipulated. We can be made to perceive unfairness by any number of means. Those grooming the experiment, creating mayhem and strife, for their own purposes. And the experimenters know what they are doing. Same as the global experimenters. But the experimenters have traded in their lab coats, and instead hide behind mansion walls. They don't mingle with their monkeys. They own the monkeys.

Enter Trump. He mingles with the deprived monkeys, and he even makes them believe he is one of the aggrieved. And yet, the monkeys don't seem to mind that the Trump ape has golden toilets and unbelievably unfair share. Indeed, the monkeys believe that Trump is fighting to get them their fair share.

How do the experimenters get the monkeys to ignore the unfair share they want perpetuated to infinity? By causing the perception of unfairness.

The monkeys that are screeching about infrastructure do so as they see that cosmopolitan areas enjoy rewards that they in their rural enclave cannot. They are encouraged to see those in cities as undeserving of those rewards. As criminal monkeys. They are told that they are the moral, righteous monkeys. Deserving of the greater share, if not all of it.

Is it any wonder that the superior feeling monkeys don't want their children to learn about sharing? About the TRUE conditions of the cities and life outside their bubble. And to make matters worse, they watch as some monkeys input requests for greater share, called pork barrel.

Democrats feel it is beneath their dignity to manipulate or fashion the experiment. There are a few liberal monkeys that get it. And, they have had great success in opening the eyes of some monkeys. We should learn from these monkeys. I am talking about Sanders and Warren. They have won over many of the screeching monkeys with their rhetoric. Indeed, some of the worst screeching monkeys even preferred these two's world view to the manipulated view created for them by those with golden toilets.

We on the left MUST learn to deal with monkeys in a slightly cynical fashion, privy to the crude crass nature of us apes. We can still do that with truth and reality.

We must engage the monkeys in the sausage making. Make the equality upfront. Visual.

The screeching monkeys have been taught to believe that warlords and ruling fiefdoms [states] offer them a better stab at hording the pleasures of plenty. And they busy themselves by stealing industry and other trappings of culture, purposely depriving their fellow citizens of resources. In a zero sum game, for lack of a better term, soft civil war. Indeed, some of these areas seek to be removed from the cage entirely [secession].

Those with golden toilets have been perfecting psyops for many years now. They employ knowledgeable manipulators. Experts in creating perceptions that can be used to cause strife. This strife is the fig leaf that obscures their golden toilets.

Time for us civil monkeys to grow up. To battle against the false perceptions allowed by our senses of superiority. Time to worry less about our Authenticity, and more about the perceptions we create.

Our task is great, as malevolent monkeys have an advantage, which is evidenced by the proclivity of apes and monkeys to raid their neighbors’ stores to supplement their comfort. This being the chief method of advance till very recently.

We have outgrown our human natures. And yet, those natures are being used against us. Our task made even more arduous by the screeching monkeys’ insistence on the rank-and-file monkey deeming understanding of human nature as squishy science.

We are being encouraged and molded to remain ignorant of our human natures. When in reality, we haven't learned a God damn thing in all our years of dominance on this planet.

The monkeys have much to teach us.

 

BlueBlud

(57 posts)
4. Time to fess up. I studied Bonobo's for four years plus.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 08:16 PM
Dec 2021

I think that we humans have elevated the dog eat dog conception of simian violence to religious levels. Had De Waal had equal access to the halls of academia, we would view very differently, the human capacity. Particularly, for empathy.

If we had EVEN recognized that another species existed, we would now be different creatures, as we would view the range of acceptable behaviours as far less aggressive. And, would value female input in far different terms.

So, I REALLY think the 'monkeys' have something to teach us.

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