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kpete

(72,898 posts)
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 04:59 PM Dec 2021

Here's What Families Are Actually Using the Child Tax Credit to Pay For

Overwhelmingly, people who have received the child tax credit payments have used it for food, rent, and utilities and to pay off debt, data from the U.S. Census Bureau has found.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-20/child-tax-credit-2021-joe-manchin-opposes-aid-parents-are-using-for-food-rent?sref=SvwPxqpB

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Here's What Families Are Actually Using the Child Tax Credit to Pay For (Original Post) kpete Dec 2021 OP
not according to Manchin,,,, Tripper11 Dec 2021 #1
That's Insulting to the People of West Virgina Cha Dec 2021 #6
I agree...someone posted here a few days ago Tripper11 Dec 2021 #7
Yeah, I saw that.. I was Cha Dec 2021 #17
Yes it is MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #25
Shameless SOB 2Gingersnaps Dec 2021 #15
Any "good" Republican Grokenstein Dec 2021 #18
but its ok for bussiness owners who spent their businness stimuls on, AllaN01Bear Dec 2021 #29
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2021 #2
Happy Solstice Uncle Joe! kpete Dec 2021 #3
Happy Solstice to you kpete! Uncle Joe Dec 2021 #5
Rt TY! Cha Dec 2021 #4
So Manchin is just talking out of his wazoo? Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #8
Paying down debt...ah ha! Shermann Dec 2021 #9
Out of touch. patphil Dec 2021 #10
I remember they used to have some show on TV where people switched Bev54 Dec 2021 #12
Make him and his wife live on the food stamp challenge for a month TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #37
And especially cruel gratuitous Dec 2021 #16
Manchin is old Casady1 Dec 2021 #11
Back Off, Joe knows what he is talking about when it comes to government hand outs bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #13
Stop complaining and clap louder durablend Dec 2021 #14
Hah! Perfect! Grokenstein Dec 2021 #19
Joe Manchin says he knows how the people in his state think Emile Dec 2021 #20
Oh they must be eating steak and lobster and buying fancy clothes while the japple Dec 2021 #21
Isn't food kind of a drug? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #22
I thought it would be reducing their income tax payment due. You know, the stuff Trumps don't pay. TheBlackAdder Dec 2021 #23
We need a graph on what Manchin spends his benefactors' money on. Purrfessor Dec 2021 #24
West Virginians are probably wasting it on yachts and Maseratis. nt hay rick Dec 2021 #26
+1 appalachiablue Dec 2021 #28
hear hear. AllaN01Bear Dec 2021 #27
Survey TimeToGo Dec 2021 #30
so they say markie Dec 2021 #31
I'm reminded of the claims I've seen all too often of people on food stamps PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #32
Paying down debt and Recreational Goods. It's right there in black, white, and orange. Solly Mack Dec 2021 #33
Projection, Senator Joe Yacht is clearly on drugs. PurgedVoter Dec 2021 #34
:) WV's drug abuse rate is higher than the national average, Hortensis Dec 2021 #35
He's a Greedhead and nothing more. snort Dec 2021 #36
Amazing how all those parents can make up those excuses while high on drugs IronLionZion Dec 2021 #38
I'm guessing guns fall under "Recreational goods" in WV Dukkha Dec 2021 #39

Tripper11

(4,427 posts)
7. I agree...someone posted here a few days ago
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:09 PM
Dec 2021

That he was basically whispering that shit to some people.

He's insulting.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
15. Shameless SOB
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:32 PM
Dec 2021

I guess that's what it takes for such a small man to float the Potomac on a yacht.

Grokenstein

(6,239 posts)
18. Any "good" Republican
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:45 PM
Dec 2021

tooling around in expensive cars and yachts knows it's those damn welfare queens bleedin' us dry and spendin' it all on Caddies and smack. /sarcasm

AllaN01Bear

(28,465 posts)
29. but its ok for bussiness owners who spent their businness stimuls on,
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 07:44 PM
Dec 2021

high priced sport cars . high priced boats and high priced airplanes? hem

Shermann

(9,002 posts)
9. Paying down debt...ah ha!
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:11 PM
Dec 2021

Debt to drug dealers no doubt!

Also I'm skeptical of "recreational goods".

patphil

(8,666 posts)
10. Out of touch.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:13 PM
Dec 2021

Senator Manchin is too far removed from his constituents to understand what it's like to have to stretch your income to cover necessities.
Joe, you need to walk a few miles in their shoes. Spend so time driving their 15 year old car to their $10. an hour job (if that), and sitting alone in the kitchen at night wondering how you're going to pay for utilities this winter.

Joe, you simply don't have any idea what your constituent's needs are.
You need to drink deep in the life of quite desperation so many of your people are experiencing.
It's not about you, Joe. You have more than enough.

Bev54

(13,147 posts)
12. I remember they used to have some show on TV where people switched
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:18 PM
Dec 2021

with others to live someone else's life. I can't really remember much, just saw it a few times, but perhaps, not just Manchin, but many congressional members should switch with their constituents to see what real life is like.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,086 posts)
37. Make him and his wife live on the food stamp challenge for a month
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 02:16 PM
Dec 2021

They maximum they could get if they were poor if $459 per month. They wouldn't last a week.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. And especially cruel
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:38 PM
Dec 2021

Stringing along this charade when by all indications he had no intention of voting for BBB all the time. Instead, he stalls and obfuscates and does his little Hamlet routine and the weekend before Christmas shafts his party, his constituents, and the country. But that's not enough; he has to come up with a rationale so insulting even some (not a lot, but some) Republicans cringed.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
11. Manchin is old
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:16 PM
Dec 2021

and in the way. He epitomizes the thinking of many people his age. It really is all projection. Republicans and people like him are like the people he imagines stealing "money" in their inner selves. They have a view that everyone cheats because in the same situation they would cheat. They would steal votes if they can, they would go and spend money on booze and drugs. They would falsify sick leave to get time off. They are cheats.

bottomofthehill

(9,330 posts)
13. Back Off, Joe knows what he is talking about when it comes to government hand outs
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:18 PM
Dec 2021

Kyle Rittenhouse used his Covid money to buy the gun that he used to kill 2 people and maim another one.

Once Again, Joe is right

durablend

(8,875 posts)
14. Stop complaining and clap louder
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:28 PM
Dec 2021

"He's the best we can get there, votes with Biden 298% of the time and if he says they're buying drugs, THEY'RE BUYING DRUGS"

Emile

(40,277 posts)
20. Joe Manchin says he knows how the people in his state think
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:47 PM
Dec 2021

and they use that money to buy illegal drugs! I wonder what they think of the senator they voted for saying that about them?

japple

(10,459 posts)
21. Oh they must be eating steak and lobster and buying fancy clothes while the
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:51 PM
Dec 2021

rest of the country eats hamburger and wears a "respectable, Republican, cloth coat."

TheBlackAdder

(29,968 posts)
23. I thought it would be reducing their income tax payment due. You know, the stuff Trumps don't pay.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 06:07 PM
Dec 2021

TimeToGo

(1,435 posts)
30. Survey
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 07:54 PM
Dec 2021

This is a survey, so self reporting. Still, most people are going to be using the money for real needs.

And adding — unless there is evidence, why go there?

markie

(23,810 posts)
31. so they say
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 08:01 PM
Dec 2021
that 6 percent could be a bit of Gin and tonic to make it easier to deal with the kids

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,405 posts)
32. I'm reminded of the claims I've seen all too often of people on food stamps
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:53 PM
Dec 2021

buying steaks and caviar.

Perhaps Joe is simply assuming that others would do what he would do with that money. Keep in mind that Republicans invariably project their own sins/behaviors/desires on everyone else.

Solly Mack

(96,279 posts)
33. Paying down debt and Recreational Goods. It's right there in black, white, and orange.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 11:00 PM
Dec 2021

Drugs (owes drug dealer) and hunting!

And you just know that "Other" is code for combining drug use with moonshine while hunting.




Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. :) WV's drug abuse rate is higher than the national average,
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:09 PM
Dec 2021

but all tokes, etc, would probably fit into that 6% "other" or in "recreational goods." Self reported statistics, of course, but by definition this tax credit goes to employed adults with a dependent child..

In any case, I hope Manchin's insults damage his image as they should. He has until November 2024 to do damage control, of course, and voters are very fickle, but maybe personal offense will be longer lived.

IronLionZion

(50,722 posts)
38. Amazing how all those parents can make up those excuses while high on drugs
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:36 PM
Dec 2021

but apparently spending all their money on drugs helped them think up creative ways to get food, housing, clothing, etc. They probably bake pot brownies for food. Utility bills must be for their drug greenhouses. Education is in the meth labs.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
39. I'm guessing guns fall under "Recreational goods" in WV
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:03 PM
Dec 2021

That would be Manchin's constituents for sure.

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