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Finally... (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2021 OP
Believe it when I see it Sherman A1 Dec 2021 #1
Same here. TurboDem Dec 2021 #2
I think we are supposed to clap and believe like peter pan. nt BootinUp Dec 2021 #19
👍 Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #3
Does the Committee continue working over the Christmas holidays? FakeNoose Dec 2021 #4
I cannot find this in the NY Times mrsadm Dec 2021 #5
It was either yesterday or the day before, story by Michael Schmidt Bev54 Dec 2021 #7
This is the article from the NYT BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #11
The NYTimes did not say they were referring people as yet Bev54 Dec 2021 #6
Anyone know this mindy fischer? lindysalsagal Dec 2021 #8
Yaaaaaay! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #9
The question is... BlueIdaho Dec 2021 #10
"Weighs the possibilities" is what the article PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #12
Will Garland follow up? That is the question. berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #13
Not sure the referral is to the DOJ, rather to the DC US Attorneys Office. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #17
The DC US Attorney's office IS part of the DOJ. euphorb Dec 2021 #20
But will the whimsy DOJ do anything? BradBo Dec 2021 #14
Indicted Bannon, as I recall, yes? Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #18
So I am guessing this targets Bannon? flying_wahini Dec 2021 #15
What about the phony Wisconsin Electoral College imposters? Emile Dec 2021 #16

TurboDem

(366 posts)
2. Same here.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 07:42 PM
Dec 2021

A few of the lower rung insurrectionists will do some time, but the big fish will swim free. Garland needs to be replaced ASAP so we can get someone competent to do the job.

FakeNoose

(42,391 posts)
4. Does the Committee continue working over the Christmas holidays?
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 07:45 PM
Dec 2021

I thought everything was on hold until the first week of January. ????

BumRushDaShow

(172,209 posts)
11. This is the article from the NYT
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 09:09 PM
Dec 2021
Jan. 6 Committee Weighs Possibility of Criminal Referrals


By Michael S. Schmidt and Luke Broadwater
Dec. 20, 2021

When the House formed a special committee this summer to investigate the Jan. 6 Capitol assault, its stated goal was to compile the most authoritative account of what occurred and make recommendations to ensure it never happens again. But as investigators sifted through troves of documents, metadata and interview transcripts, they started considering whether the inquiry could yield something potentially more consequential: evidence of criminal conduct by President Donald J. Trump or others that they could send to the Justice Department urging an investigation. That move — known as sending a criminal referral — has no legal weight, as Congress has little ability to tell the Justice Department what investigations it should undertake.

But it could have a substantial political impact by increasing public pressure on Attorney General Merrick B. Garland, who in his first year in office has largely sidestepped questions about what prosecutors are doing to examine the conduct of Mr. Trump and his aides as they promoted baseless allegations of voter fraud. The questions of criminality go far beyond the contempt of Congress referrals that the House has sent to the Justice Department for Mr. Trump’s former chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, and his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, for their refusal to cooperate with the investigation. (Federal law requires prosecutors to bring contempt of Congress charges before a grand jury upon receiving such a referral.)

According to people briefed on their efforts, investigators for the committee are looking into whether a range of crimes were committed, including two in particular: whether there was wire fraud by Republicans who raised millions of dollars off assertions that the election was stolen, despite knowing the claims were not true; and whether Mr. Trump and his allies obstructed Congress by trying to stop the certification of electoral votes. It is not clear what, if any, new evidence the committee has that might support a criminal referral, when and how it will determine whether to pursue that option and whether the committee could produce a case strong enough to hold up against inevitable accusations that it acted in a partisan manner.

Behind the scenes, the committee’s day-to-day work is being carried out by a team of 40 investigators and staff members, including former federal prosecutors. The panel has obtained more than 30,000 records and interviewed more than 300 witnesses, including about a dozen last week whom committee members say provided “key” testimony. In recent weeks, the committee has publicly signaled its interest in the question of criminality. Shortly after obtaining from Mr. Meadows 9,000 pages of documents — including text messages and a PowerPoint presentation — the panel’s top Republican, Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, read from the criminal code at a televised hearing.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/us/politics/jan-6-committee-trump-criminal-referral.html

Bev54

(13,517 posts)
6. The NYTimes did not say they were referring people as yet
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 07:48 PM
Dec 2021

They are considering what charges to refer people for, including wire fraud.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
12. "Weighs the possibilities" is what the article
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 09:13 PM
Dec 2021

says, which is quite different from what Mindy Whoever is saying.

I will likewise believe this when I see actual indictments, people in jail, and the jury selection. Until then, it's a big yawn.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
17. Not sure the referral is to the DOJ, rather to the DC US Attorneys Office.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:29 PM
Dec 2021

That’s the problem with Twitter news, more questions than answers. Almost like they want you to do many more clicks to find out….

euphorb

(294 posts)
20. The DC US Attorney's office IS part of the DOJ.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:44 PM
Dec 2021

So a referral to the DC US Attorney actually is a referral to the DOJ. That's how the referral is made--any referral to the DOJ is sent to the US Attorney in whatever the appropriate jurisdiction is.

Emile

(43,248 posts)
16. What about the phony Wisconsin Electoral College imposters?
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:02 PM
Dec 2021

Are they after them too?

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