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applegrove

(132,220 posts)
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:11 PM Dec 2021

Susan Collins Open to Push for Child Tax Credit

Susan Collins Open to Push for Child Tax Credit

December 21, 2021 at 8:59 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 8 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2021/12/21/susan-collins-open-to-push-for-child-tax-credit/

"SNIP......

“After a key setback to President Joe Biden’s spending agenda, U.S. Sen. Susan Collins signaled openness on Tuesday to an effort that would overhaul a child tax credit set to expire in January if Congress does not act,” the Bangor Daily News reports.

“While Republicans including Collins have been in lockstep against Democratic stimulus plans in 2021, the Maine senator said a revived tax-credit push led by Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, is among ‘a number of proposals worthy of consideration’ on that issue. While she stopped short of backing it outright, it could signal a bipartisan willingness to make a narrower deal, though the plan still faces obstacles.”

......SNIP"

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Susan Collins Open to Push for Child Tax Credit (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2021 OP
Sure. I totally believe her. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #12
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #27
Who woke her up? dchill Dec 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #13
no worries, shes's playing the same game msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #28
She'll say something different tomorrow. madaboutharry Dec 2021 #3
Yeah, sure. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2021 #4
Don't trust her. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2021 #5
She's even less trustworthy than Manchin MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #6
easy for her to say so. drray23 Dec 2021 #7
No really I'm gonna let you kick the football this time I'm not gonna pull away really Walleye Dec 2021 #8
The game is dashing liberal hopes - despair, dismay, fear, doubt, lethargy bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #9
The emptiest suit in the senate says what? Bristlecone Dec 2021 #10
doesn't matter lapfog_1 Dec 2021 #11
I was surprised that Romney isn't for at least that child credit viva la Dec 2021 #14
He's currently floating his own plan leftstreet Dec 2021 #22
This was Manchin's intention all along, to team up with the Rs msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #29
Given her previous behavior Bettie Dec 2021 #15
I'm CONCERNED that she will back out anyways like the craven goop that she is wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #16
I'll hold my breath. lindysalsagal Dec 2021 #17
I'll believe it when I see it. I have no trust in any Repub... Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #18
"a revived tax-credit push led by Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah" crickets Dec 2021 #19
So called moderate right wing think tank Celerity Dec 2021 #26
She will hem and haw and do nothing, like she always does greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #20
Yawn... BlueIdaho Dec 2021 #21
Oh good, another MacBeth takes the stage gratuitous Dec 2021 #23
So what, as a stand alone bill we need 60 votes krawhitham Dec 2021 #24
A picture of the announcement Recursion Dec 2021 #25
Blah blahblah BLAHBLAH blah blahblahblah BLAH blahblahblahblah BLAHBLAHBLAH hatrack Dec 2021 #30
please let's not give credence to this GOP pr bs. msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #31
She's a liar JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #32

Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #1)

Response to dchill (Reply #2)

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
28. no worries, shes's playing the same game
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:39 AM
Dec 2021

she's either tag teaming with the traitor or in competition for the attention

MustLoveBeagles

(16,411 posts)
6. She's even less trustworthy than Manchin
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:21 PM
Dec 2021

If you look up concern troll in the dictionary you'd see her picture.

drray23

(8,759 posts)
7. easy for her to say so.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:21 PM
Dec 2021

it makes her look good burnishing her moderate republican status in Maine She knows perfectly well that there won't be 9 other Republicans to avoid a filibuster on it.

bucolic_frolic

(55,143 posts)
9. The game is dashing liberal hopes - despair, dismay, fear, doubt, lethargy
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:24 PM
Dec 2021

Don't believe a word out of her mouth. This has been her behavior for a long, long time.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
11. doesn't matter
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:38 PM
Dec 2021

unless one of the following:

a) She is willing to vote for all of BBB

or

b) we agree to ONLY passing the Child Tax Credit under reconciliation (the end for all the rest of BBB)

or

c) She finds 10 other republican senators to vote with her on the cloture vote for this one standalone regular order bill - 10 because Manchin will vote to filibuster the bill.

viva la

(4,598 posts)
14. I was surprised that Romney isn't for at least that child credit
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:43 PM
Dec 2021

He proposed something similar years ago.

But they'll be against something else in the bill. That's how they roll. Compromise no longer is an option.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
29. This was Manchin's intention all along, to team up with the Rs
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:44 AM
Dec 2021

he telegraphed that every single day on the Senate floor, didn't he?

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
15. Given her previous behavior
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:58 PM
Dec 2021

she's not trustworthy.

But, if she votes for it, that would be lovely.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
16. I'm CONCERNED that she will back out anyways like the craven goop that she is
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 11:09 PM
Dec 2021

This is my concerned face:

Wounded Bear

(64,328 posts)
18. I'll believe it when I see it. I have no trust in any Repub...
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 11:35 PM
Dec 2021

If she votes for it, brava! But if it is still part of the main BBB, I don't see it.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
19. "a revived tax-credit push led by Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah"
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:02 AM
Dec 2021

That's what woke up Collins: a fellow Republican talking about a Republican tax plan.

https://bangordailynews.com/2021/12/21/politics/susan-collins-is-open-to-a-revived-push-to-overhaul-an-expiring-child-tax-credit/

Romney released his plan early this year before Democrats passed their package. It would provide a larger benefit of $4,200 annually to young children and pay for itself by phasing out other tax programs and cash assistance for low-income families under the state-run Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Even with those changes, it would go slightly further than the Biden plan in eliminating deep poverty, according to a Niskanen Center analysis.

The plan attracted little support across the political spectrum as Democrats went after their wider spending bill and two top Republicans derided it and other child allowance proposals as “welfare assistance.” While Romney is trying to revive it now as the cliff looms, that calls into question whether it could get the 60 votes needed in the Senate to pass by itself.


Unless it's for the rich folks, there are no handouts. Gotta rob Peter to pay Paul.


What the heck is the Niskanen Center? Has anyone heard of them or know anything about them? A quick web search is giving off mixed messages.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
21. Yawn...
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:05 AM
Dec 2021

Susan Collins is not exactly a profile in courage, as for Mittens Romney, is he still admiring the size of trees in Florida?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. Oh good, another MacBeth takes the stage
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:16 AM
Dec 2021

Manchin has strutted and fretted his hour on the stage, exited stage right, and now Collins is here to vend her sound and fury. It's kayfabe. If Collins gave a rat's ass about the people who would be helped by Build Back Better, she would have come out as a yes weeks ago. Same goes for Romney and any other "moderate" Republican who wants to pretend that she or he will use the power and the position they have for the good of the country and its citizens.

krawhitham

(5,072 posts)
24. So what, as a stand alone bill we need 60 votes
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:20 AM
Dec 2021

They will not waste the last reconciliation bill on a single issue bill

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
31. please let's not give credence to this GOP pr bs.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:46 AM
Dec 2021

this was their game plan all along, let's not promote it here.

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