I don't say it often, but HOLY FUCK

[Whovian]

From a FB friend.


My daughter (active duty USAF) had to drive pass this mannequin of our president hanging from a noose just outside the gates of the NC state fair in Raleigh. She said it was disturbing how the body swung back and forth as cars drove by with children and veterans.

Edited to remove photo of Obama effigy being hung after understandable complaints by readers.

[Lifelong Protester]

1. That is disgusting.

Have authorities been alerted? (As if, right?0

[unc70]

63. Disgusting, crazy, etc., but probably not racist in this case

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, this incident is not a racist statement and is only slightly about Obama. It is about a murder case. Here is a quick summary from memory, will expand once I've looked at the archives a bit.

This has been an ongoing story for several years in NC. The "display" was created by the brother of a man murdered in eastern NC some years back, William Henry Phipps. The Phipps family claim that local officials were involved, the investigation thwarted, and all this has been covered up by a continuing conspiracy involving those at all levels of the NC courts, AG, Governor Perdue, the media (especially WRAL, its reporters, and its owner). Many of these people are represented among those hanging. Some are Dems, some are Repubs. As I understand, the Obama effigy was added following some "failure" by the US DOJ regarding this case back a couple of years ago.

The victim's brother takes his trailer display wherever there are events that draw large crowds such as the State Fair. While certainly offensive and unpleasant, his display is still legal as "free speech". He has taken it to NYC, DC, and various places outside NC. He drove the truck display around Charlotte during the convention.

We have plenty of racists in NC, the Phipps might be among them.


BTW There were more lynchings outside the South than in the South. An ugly part of our entire nation's past and present.

[marions ghost]

86. Posting this right up front here

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So at least readers of this thread can get the full story--the OP is misleading in describing it as only Obama--it includes other effigies. Mr. Phipps is kinda obsessive and has a grievance about his brother's death, which was not investigated and he blames corrupt politicians.

Go to YouTube--search "Gallows of Effigy"

(Yes of course it's offensive, but it is not exactly what it seems at first glance).

[unc70]

94. Thanks for all your posts on this

I also posted here at the top if the thread to limit the confusion. After this, I'm now curious about a couple of back stories about this murder case. Plan to check with family members that live in that area.

[marions ghost]

96. And thanks for your corroboration...

Yes it's an interesting case. Looks like Mr. Phipps "advertizing" is having its desired effect--I'm curious about it now. He certainly wants attention. Seems to be his way of "working through"--fascinating from a social psych POV. Wonder what happened.

Although I don't appreciate the inflammatory and misleading way the story was presented here by the OP--at least we're now more up on it. I don't blame DUers for being outraged at what was posted. It is hard to defend such a disturbing creation as "free speech," especially when you're unsure of motive. It's offensive for sure, but I think there's a case for the man's project being about perceived political corruption rather than racism. Of course he gets a lot of mileage out of the shock value of hanging figures. Reminds me of those people who put Jesus on the trailer hitch.

Re. The instant South-bashing that ensued--oh well. My entire family is from VA, WV and NC, so I'm used to it. It is understandable, given the tension of the times and US history. Thanks unc70 for helping to explain & deflect.

NC and VA are working very hard to try to elect Obama, not to mention other Dems. I hope this little detour into Bizarre NC (I think that's a book actually) doesn't deter DUers pulling for NC. With the spotlight on all the swing states, NC really needs to feel that "blue team" spirit from outside the state. Means a lot.

yall

[nc4bo]

2. Did anyone bother to report it?

[Whovian]

10. God, I hope so.

This kind of stuff needs more national attention to drive these hate mongers back into their holes.

[meadowlark5]

3. Why don't these bassakwards hillbillies get over this shit already?

Fucking inbreeds.

[tblue]

11. They are welcome to secede.

I'll help them pack.

[FiveGoodMen]

62. If only we had let them in the first place

No one needs the Bible Belt.

[paparush]

66. Raleigh, NC is hardly bassakward hillbilly-ville

Top tier university, one leg of the Research Triangle Park.

[jmowreader]

95. Jump on 70 and go east about 50 miles

I think Banjo Playing is a required course in the Goldsboro school system.

[paparush]

97. I don't disagree with that at all. Go N, S, E, or W and the same is true.

[OhioChick]

4. I don't like to see shit like this

It should be reported and investigated.

[sad sally]

5. Where is the law enforcement in this town? Somebody needs to be investigated for allowing this.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

69. The police chief should be fired

what sort of a place is this?

[marions ghost]

79. They have known for 3 years

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http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8820026

This video clip the story.

The OP was misleading in singling out Obama--there are other effigies and he has a grievance against politicians which he says is not racist.

Go to youtube and search "Gallows of Effigy"

[markpkessinger]

100. Are you kidding?

Sheriff Billy Bob is most likely a cousin to whomever is responsible for it.

[Vadem]

6. OMG! That is horrible and outrageous! Is this promoted

by the State of North Carolina???

Time to call in the DOJ!

[marions ghost]

85. Get the full story:

Go to Youtube and search "Gallows of Effigies"

Guy's a loon but his point is not racism --it's about his brother's death which he attributes to corruption (the other effigies are white, supposed to be Dems)

[still_one]

7. That has nothing to do with first amendment rights, it sould be taken down immediately. In fact

People in Raleigh should be outraged by it

Is that what they want to be represented as?

[unc70]

93. Read my posts and those of marions ghost

This story is being misreported. This actually is a free speech issue and not a racism incident. Please read my other posts and particularly those of marions ghost.

And please everyone, let up on all the bashing of NC and of the South. At least wait until after the election; we are focused on winning in NC. For the next two weeks, either help or get out of the way. Thank you.

[WinkyDink]

8. Times like this I think Lincoln was wrong.

[tblue]

15. I think that all the time.

We tried being one nation and we failed. Why keep forcing it?

[WinkyDink]

52. Love my Mason-Dixon Line! :-)

[Hosnon]

55. Sigh. Shit like this was not and is not exclusive to the South. nt.

[wryter2000]

57. We had a lynched chair in Northern California after the R convention n/t

n/t

[onecent]

9. I think this should be taken off of DU. n/t Please

[Whovian]

20. I certainly see your point.

This is not posted except for to let people know the hate and racism that is being used in the current election. It is terrible. It is ignorant. It is out and out as racist as they can go.

But hopefully, by letting others know that it's out there in forms like this something might get done and we will see fewer examples of ingnorance and hate like this.

[Chorophyll]

12. What the everloving f*ck?

Is this even legal? Can it not be construed as a threat to the President?

Beyond disgusting.

[progressivebydesign]

13. I'd probably get arrested with a saw and a ladder cutting that fucking thing down.

Shocked that no one else has done that.

[marions ghost]

82. It is NOT only an effigy of Obama

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http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8820026

Check out the local TV station on the story--it's some nut who says he has another agenda. You either believe it or not, but
there are several effigies together.

Yes it's offensive Duh.

Got to youtube and search "Gallows of Effigy"

[nichomachus]

14. I thought Raleigh

was supposed to be the semi-sane part of NC. This is pretty much why I avoid the state.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

42. No. If you want sane in NC you have to go to Chapel Hill

Ashboro or Durham (YES - Durham) - most of the rest of the state is AFAIK - shall we just say "less sane", to put it as nicely as possible, though there may be some other blue spots in it.

[marions ghost]

74. eh?

Lots of sanity in Raleigh...

"may be some other blue spots'? --there have to be, or how could the state be 50/50 red/blue?

[ncgrits]

99. And posts like yours are why I pretty much use ignore.

[nichomachus]

101. Be my guest

And thanks for proving my point

[patrice]

16. Fascism raises its hateful head. nt

[marions ghost]

90. Nah just a lone nutjob

Go to youtube and get the full story. Search "Gallows of Effigy"

[underthematrix]

17. I was suspended from a thread for using

a cultural metaphor (I'm African American) because it was deemed racist but this? It shoudl be removed because if you retweet it or post to FB someone could use it in a way you did not intend.

[still_one]

21. It is actually a news story from CNN. See my post. The op gives a different impression that it is

His or her friend


http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-861573?hpt=hp_bn1

[octoberlib]

48. I saw this truck driving down Church St in Charlotte during the DNC

I know he got stopped by the police. . I remember reading in the Charlotte Observer that he drives the truck all around the country protesting various things. It was extremely offensive.

[marions ghost]

81. Hold on a minute

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Check this out and see what you think:

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8820026

It's offensive but his motive is (apparently) not race--all the other effigies are white and he has another agenda. The guy's been doing it for 3 years, with police, secret service knowledge. The OP was misleading in suggesting it was only Obama hanging. Yes it's offensive & (debatable) free speech but so far, he's allowed to do it.

But of course IF someone took a picture and did just what you say, posted/tweeted ONLY the Obama effigy for their own purposes...well.....

UNDERSTAND I am not taking up for the guy--just to say that it may not be all it seems. Get the backstory.

Go to youtube and search "Gallows of Effigy"

[still_one]

18. This is a story reported from cnn, I doubt this is your daughters photo

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-861573?hpt=hp_bn1

[Whovian]

39. Not my daughter but a friend's daughter.

Had to check a map after checking your link and it's very possible.

[still_one]

58. Ok

[elleng]

19. The city, county, state should see to it that its taken down.

Daughter, friends, commanders should report it. Not as if Raleigh was Selma, Alabama.

[aletier_v]

22. how can you be sure it's Obama? :)

[Bluenorthwest]

23. This image should not be spread around in any context aside from reporting to FBI

Your friend is irresponsible.

[flamingdem]

24. wtf? Government property? n/t

[marions ghost]

91. A known nutjob with another agenda...

Go to youtube and search "Gallows of Effigy"

[Scootaloo]

25. Speechless

Just.. .speechless.

[OneGrassRoot]

26. I live there; surprised I hadn't heard about this.

I don't go to the fair though.

I just Googled and here's the back story, as ridiculous as it is. There's a link to the guy's YouTube video within the report:

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-861573?hpt=hp_bn1

[CoffeeCat]

27. This will realllly gin up the Independent and swing voters! (NOT!)

That's the thing about racists. They are horrendously ignorant. They don't get that their stupidity is repulsive to 85 percent of the population.

They are the worst kind of stupid ever to exist.

I really hope this is kept up. It is so disgusting--I feel an adrenaline surge--just wanting to pull it down. I can't imagine what I would say to my children about such ugliness.

But it should stand. People need to see what "the other side" stands for. Let them see the hate. The backward, evil stupidity that sits on their side.

Let Independents see this.

Let swing voters see this.

Let undecideds see this.

Let reasonable Republicans see this.

Then maybe---some of them will GET why the modern-day Republican party has evolved into a hornet's nest of hate and stupidity--and maybe they'll decide to side with the Democrats where diversity, compassion, equal-opportunity, love and integrity rule the day and our party.

[marions ghost]

73. Check out the backstory--

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it's offensive for sure-- but the guy claims not racist. The other figures hanging are white. He's an angry old man whose brother was killed and he blames the Dem politicians of NC. It involved a federal investigation which was halted, which is why Obama is there (!?) Phipps has been driving the thing everywhere including in NYC and DC for 3 years. It's terrible because it is threatening and depressing, but it is (arguably) free speech. The Republicans of course want nothing to do with it. The Secret Service said they know about the wagon, as do local police. So far, they haven't stopped it.

So far, the hanging gallows on wheels hasn't gotten Phipps what he's wanted all along which is a new investigation into his brother's death.

The guy IS obsessed and a bit nutso, for sure, but it's newsworthy--and it certainly will be interpreted as racism.

See what you think.

Here's the news from an NC TV station in Durham:

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8820026

The youtube video is better--Search "Gallows of Effigy"

[spanone]

28. the election of President Obama has ripped the scab off american racism.

this is unconscionable conduct

[Separation]

29. Disgusting.

A little more background on the subject. Seems this isn't the 1st appearance of this.
http://m.wbtv.com/autojuice?targetUrl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.wbtv.com%2fstory%2f19475636%2fhanging-obama-truck-makes-way-into-charlotte

[geckosfeet]

30. Disgusting. Secret service take note.

How ignorant do you have to be to hang someone in effigy?

[Initech]

61. The Secret Service must get three or four of these a day anymore.

[marions ghost]

77. Secret service & local police follow him

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and have been for 3 years. He's whackadoodle--but says he's not a racist (the several other effigies are white). The guy has driven it all over the country including Manhattan. (!?)

The OP is not presenting this correctly though I understand the outrage. Certainly it's offensive and harks back to our dark past, which is why he gets attention...

See this local news report about it:

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/video?id=8820056

I'm not defending this just put it into perspective.

[riderinthestorm]

31. I do NOT care if its supposed to be Obama, its wrong for EVERYONE.

Call the SS however and report it as a threat to Obama however so it gets cut down instantly!

[Historic NY]

32. see news report

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-861573?hpt=hp_bn1

[marions ghost]

83. This is a better link

[Kali]

33. please consider self-deleting that image

we really don't need that here

alerted

[Whovian]

40. I did.

[Kali]

47. thank you

apologies in advance if the jury hides your OP instead of reading my alert carefully - I wrote to hide if you didn't self delete the image...

[trailmonkee]

34. do you have an address? here are the Shell stations near the fairgrounds... do you know which one?

cut and paste from google maps

shell near North Carolina State Fairgrounds, 1025 Blue Ridge Road, Raleigh, NC 27606


Crabtree Shell Service Station
4313 Glenwood Avenue, Raleigh, NC 3.5 mi NE
[phone] ‎ · bulltireandservice.com
3 reviews
"Most of you do not care... but this shell ALWAYs charges more for gas ..." -


Shell
5800 Duraleigh Road, Raleigh, NC 4.3 mi N
[phone] ‎ · shell.com
4 reviews
"I WILL NEVER EVER SHOP THERE EVER AGAIN. THE STORE HAS TABLES TO SIT AT ..." -


Tops Shell Mart
118 West Peace Street, Raleigh, NC 3.7 mi E
[phone] ‎ · shell.com
5 reviews
"CONVENIENT & GREAT SERVICE!" -


Quality Mart
1611 Walnut Street, Cary, NC 3.1 mi SW
[phone] ‎ · shell.com


Quail Corners Shell
1326 East Millbrook Road, Raleigh, NC 6.4 mi NE
Quail Corners Shopping Center
[phone] ‎ · shell.com
2 reviews
"This is the only place I take my car to for oil changes." -


Eastgate Shell


4043 Wake Forest Road, Raleigh, NC 6.0 mi NE
[phone] ‎ · eastgateshell.com
4 reviews
"I stopped by today around lunch for a tire repair on my wife's car. ..." -


Oyster Shell Santa Ornaments


706 Kimbrough Street, Raleigh, NC 4.5 mi E
[phone] ‎ · oystershellsa

[marions ghost]

87. The guy is a known nutjob

Go to youtube and search "Gallows of Effigy"

[Gregorian]

35. Contact the Secret Service now. This needs attention, and not just comments on a forum.

[marions ghost]

78. Secret Service know

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8820026

This clip from a local TV station tells the story

[sheshe2]

36. I am Speechless! n/t

[redqueen]

37. I fucking hate racist scum.

2012 and still these pieces of shit haven't died off yet.

[RiverStone]

67. ..and some are still being elected

Tho I share your sentiments exactly!

[Lex]

38. It would've been ALL OVER the news here because this is a blue part of the state

and there are lots of people there who would've had no problem reporting it asap if it were seen.

Where is the photo?

[Whovian]

43. It was reported on CNN on the 20th

as posted up thread with links http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-861573?hpt=hp_bn1

I ran into it on FB as a comment.

[marions ghost]

88. no shit

it would have been a MUCH bigger story.

Go to youtube and search "Gallows of Effigy"

[The Doctor.]

41. It's the hypocrisy that really pisses me off.

These cretins called for the execution of anyone who so much as insulted Bush the Lesser. One man even wound up serving time for making a joke about a 'burning bush'.

But these savage assholes have NO problem depicting the murder of the President of the US when he's 'not one of them'.

Civilization just can't suffer these animals.

[former-republican]

44. This was from 3 weeks ago

Why post this now?

[Whovian]

51. First time I saw it and CNN has a date stamp of 10-20

sorry if I missed this before.

[former-republican]

54. No big deal , first I heard about it also.

[marions ghost]

89. Why indeed...

[progressoid]

45. Here is his explanation if you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvfU3pAjkSk

The man needs mental help.

[former-republican]

50. I watched his video , he claims a judge had his father killed

I don't think the guy did this for a racist reason.

By watching the video he certainly seems mentally disturbed.

[upi402]

76. what language is he speaking?

I couldn't understand a word

[txdemsftw]

46. Dear gosh..

will this shit EVER END????

[Ilsa]

49. If someone pasted a RMoney Halloween mask

on it, I bet it would get cut down in a hurry.

[ibleedblue]

53. This guy has been all over central NC

for months now pulling his trailer of effigies.

http://www.news-record.com/content/2012/09/06/article/driver_stopped_on_i_85_was_hauling_hanged_effigies_including_one_resembli

[mzteris]

56. I'm sorry,

but I would have to have "trespassed and destroyed private property" on that one.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. Forward the photo to Rachael Maddow.

[former-republican]

68. Why?

Do you think the judge had something to do with the killings?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

70. Even if the media doesn't use the picture it proves it happened and they will report it.

[former-republican]

71. I never read anything about the case until todays post.

If it was a cover up by a corrupt judge and sheriffs office by all means .

But if it was properly investigated then it's just giving this guy attention for the sake of giving him attention.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

84. I thought this was new and unrelated to the guy with the rope fetish.

[Deep13]

60. But this isn't about race!

[unc70]

64. In this one case, probably not. See #63

[southernyankeebelle]

65. Don't these asses know that dems go to fairs also. Hurt them in the pocketbook. Don't go

and spend your money. Get some of your friends and protest outside the fair and call your local tv station.

[TomClash]

72. Know Nothings

And they really don't know anything.

By the Grace of God I live in Brooklyn.

[marions ghost]

75. You are not telling this story correctly

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There are many effigies, the rest of them white. You said "the body" but it's bodies. The man who drives these things around claims it's NOT a racist statement. Obviously it's offensive and I am not taking up for him, but there IS more to the story than what you are presenting. The man is a bit of a nutcase--but the secret service and the police keep tabs on him. Seems more or less harmless...he says he thinks it's healthier than what McVeigh did to express himself. (!?)

This explains it pretty well:

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8820026
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Also--youtube:

[hrmjustin]

80. we are fighting evil in the end.

[Jumping John]

92. I think that racism is not the motive for that display. After watching the

videos put on youtube by Patriotphipps, I think that that man is doing what he thinks he needs to do to get justicr for his brother, William Henry Phipps, in Duplin county North Carolina. His father was also shot in the head when his brother was murdered.

This man thinks he needs to do this to get attention directed at a corrupt county in North Carolina. I think he would hang Jesus in effigy if He were the president today.

Check out his videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Patriotphipps

[Cherchez la Femme]

98. There are very sick people in this country

& I don't here mean physically sick,
but mentally, morally and spiritually