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Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 02:43 PM Dec 2021

People Got Sick at a Conspiracy Conference. They're Sure It's Anthrax.

A group of unvaccinated people who attended a huge conspiracy conference in Dallas earlier this month all became sick in the days after the event with symptoms like coughing, shortness of breath, and fever. Instead of blaming the global COVID pandemic, however, the conspiracy theorists think they were attacked with anthrax.

This far-right conspiracy claim began after a dozen people spent time together in a confined space at the ReAwaken America tour event in Dallas over the weekend of Dec. 10. And the fact that this was likely a COVID outbreak and superspreader event has been almost entirely ignored.

The anthrax claim was first made by Joe Oltmann on his Conservative Daily podcast earlier this week. In a video recording of the podcast, Oltmann can be seen coughing and sneezing on camera, symptoms often associated with COVID-19 or other illnesses.

Instead, Oltmann, who has spent much of 2021 spreading bogus election conspiracies, claimed that he and his fellow conspiracy theorists who recently attended the conference had been attacked by anthrax. The conference, run by Tulsa businessman Clay Clark, was headlined by figures like disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn, former Trump adviser Roger Stone, and MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell. Eric Trump, the son of former President Donald Trump, also spoke at the event.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7wz5a/people-got-sick-at-a-conspiracy-conference-theyre-sure-its-anthrax

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People Got Sick at a Conspiracy Conference. They're Sure It's Anthrax. (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Dec 2021 OP
Well, it's easy enough to test for anthrax, so no doubt those people MineralMan Dec 2021 #1
They've been taught not to trust the medical professionals. Howabout a shaman? erronis Dec 2021 #21
I think he's still in jail leftieNanner Dec 2021 #33
No, they went straight to Google Hospital. KS Toronado Dec 2021 #26
Yup! MineralMan Dec 2021 #27
Dr. Facebook is in today... Probatim Dec 2021 #41
Dr. Facebook invades my privacy KS Toronado Dec 2021 #62
Maybe Ivermectin Rebl2 Dec 2021 #42
Well sure ... these people live in a fantasy world, lotsa imaginary boogeymen and giant conspiracies Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #2
It is group psychosis and mass hysteria. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #4
Glad you're not having to deal with it professionally. Nevilledog Dec 2021 #9
These people are going to be very hard to treat. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #19
Doesn't make them less potentially dangerous that this Hortensis Dec 2021 #48
Their paranoid conspiracies spread almost as fast.... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #43
When you hear hoofbeats, Bantamfancier Dec 2021 #3
Sometimes it's zebras IronLionZion Dec 2021 #20
Sure, the "official version" is that it's actually COVID, but what if ALL of COVID is Anthrax??? greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #5
Oltmann is just like that Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #39
I don't think that they will appreciate my prayer. . .May they receive everything they niyad Dec 2021 #46
A danger to themselves and to society bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #6
They didn't have anthrax. Even if they did, it would probably have been inhalation anthrax, Ocelot II Dec 2021 #7
I was about to post the same thing. Ray Bruns Dec 2021 #8
What's the betting pool like for number of days this takes to go from... JHB Dec 2021 #10
48 hours ZonkerHarris Dec 2021 #16
That explains why "anthrax" was just trending on Twitter. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #11
Why would anyone waste perfectly good anthrax on that crowd? nt Buns_of_Fire Dec 2021 #12
... Nevilledog Dec 2021 #13
The Church Has A Fog Machine? ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #17
Churches ARE fog machines. erronis Dec 2021 #22
K & R great post tikka Dec 2021 #28
A Most Excellent Point (nt) ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #52
When they rely on "showy", yes. Mists to accentuate dramatic lighting. JHB Dec 2021 #54
COVID targets the unvaccinated and unmasked IronLionZion Dec 2021 #23
Inhalation Anthrax is almost always fatal. patphil Dec 2021 #14
Deep state engineered a gain of function version of Anthrax IronLionZion Dec 2021 #25
Oops.....negative test for anthrax........lol Nevilledog Dec 2021 #15
Maybe it's the Omicron variant ... of anthrax I mean FakeNoose Dec 2021 #18
I told them not to hold it on Gruinard Island. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2021 #24
Hope they ALL contract the virus Hulk Dec 2021 #29
how the hell do people this stupid get through life? Takket Dec 2021 #30
My saying was always... louis-t Dec 2021 #34
I sometimes fear we have made society too safe. CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #53
When I heard a teen girl electrocuted herself with a plugged in phone in the bath tub IronLionZion Dec 2021 #63
Well yes, it was Anthrax, specifically "I'm Alive" PurgedVoter Dec 2021 #31
And lung cancer. Lots of lung cancer. louis-t Dec 2021 #32
November 2001 I had a blood infection. louis-t Dec 2021 #35
I took Cipro eye drops for an eye infection jmowreader Dec 2021 #47
A pity it's not ebola. paleotn Dec 2021 #36
Claiming anthrax make them More Important ... in their minds. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #37
just adding to the right wing death toll !! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #38
Awww, rats. Somebody told them. DFW Dec 2021 #40
"Teh stoopid, it BUURRRRRNNNNZZZ!!!" TygrBright Dec 2021 #44
Gee guys... jmowreader Dec 2021 #45
I was going to say to oltman, "no, you idiot, anthrax is what YOU F'n assholes niyad Dec 2021 #49
Yes, because that's what pro-vaxx groups are known for. ecstatic Dec 2021 #50
I bet they all also got gonorrhea from a tractor, too. Tommy Carcetti Dec 2021 #51
His salary depends on his not understanding it summer_in_TX Dec 2021 #55
This sounds like an article from the Onion. Poiuyt Dec 2021 #56
Is it the alien DNA version of anthrax? Silent3 Dec 2021 #57
Pathetic need for melodrama. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2021 #58
Attacked by anthrax? leftyladyfrommo Dec 2021 #59
Deep state developed a diabolical strain of anthrax IronLionZion Dec 2021 #60
How lethal is anthrax? Martin Eden Dec 2021 #61
not lethal enough apparently......... Takket Dec 2021 #64
Must have done their own research lame54 Dec 2021 #65

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
1. Well, it's easy enough to test for anthrax, so no doubt those people
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 02:46 PM
Dec 2021

have all gone to the medical professionals for testing, right?

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Well sure ... these people live in a fantasy world, lotsa imaginary boogeymen and giant conspiracies
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 02:46 PM
Dec 2021

going on all around them, all the time.

Literally whatever they imagine to be the case, becomes reality for them.

This really is a type of mental illness.

I have a question though ... was Stephen Hatfill there?

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
4. It is group psychosis and mass hysteria.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 02:56 PM
Dec 2021

Paranoid and delusional.

I am sure glad I am retired from the mental health field.
Don't think I could handle the high levels of clinical insanity right now.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
19. These people are going to be very hard to treat.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:02 PM
Dec 2021

Even the shock of going to jail doesn't make them start facing reality.

And they are violent, hostile and dangerous, especially if challenged.
Well known to attack health care workers trying to help them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. Doesn't make them less potentially dangerous that this
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:47 PM
Dec 2021

attack, underlining how important they are and ruthless their enemies -- NOT that they got Covid, was probably floated by someone rational and smart enough to drive the story.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
43. Their paranoid conspiracies spread almost as fast....
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:27 PM
Dec 2021

as the omicron variant itself. One super-conspiranut gets a whacko conspiracy theory in his fevered brain, and POW! It spreads faster than Donald Trump can grift a dollar.

Next thing you know, the entire conspiranut-verse has the exact same theory triggering every brain synapse among the lot.

It's almost like alien hive mentality, if I actually believed in such a thing. Lord, don't anyone tell them about alien hive mentality, please!

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
5. Sure, the "official version" is that it's actually COVID, but what if ALL of COVID is Anthrax???
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:00 PM
Dec 2021

niyad

(132,440 posts)
46. I don't think that they will appreciate my prayer. . .May they receive everything they
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:40 PM
Dec 2021

deserve.

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
7. They didn't have anthrax. Even if they did, it would probably have been inhalation anthrax,
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:15 PM
Dec 2021

which means 85%-90% of them would be dead by now if they hadn't been treated for anthrax. With aggressive treatment only about 45% would be dead. https://www.cdc.gov/anthrax/pdf/evergreen-pdfs/anthrax-evergreen-content-english.pdf

JHB

(38,213 posts)
10. What's the betting pool like for number of days this takes to go from...
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:27 PM
Dec 2021

..."far-right conspiracy theory" to Republican Party-line messaging?

Nevilledog

(55,080 posts)
13. ...
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:37 PM
Dec 2021


Tweet text:

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
·
Dec 22, 2021
I have been following this saga for days. Basically, the guys behind the ‘election fraud audits’ are all sick after attending Michael Flynn and Clay Clark’s big QAnon conference, and they believe that anthrax was pumped in through the churches’ fog machines to poison them.
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Mynmnobody 🇺🇸🏴‍☠️
@PMynmnobody
Love to see his proof on this. Fog machines that pumped anthrax through the air system and yet somehow was able to target some of them? That’s technology the government would be interested in. To send something in the air to only go after certain cult members…amazing.
9:50 AM · Dec 22, 2021

JHB

(38,213 posts)
54. When they rely on "showy", yes. Mists to accentuate dramatic lighting.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:51 PM
Dec 2021

And why do these nitwits think it was anthrax? There was a "mist".

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
23. COVID targets the unvaccinated and unmasked
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:13 PM
Dec 2021

for more severe illness, hospitalization, and even death. Vaccinated folks are mostly spared from the worst. That's proof this is all a conspiracy.

patphil

(9,068 posts)
14. Inhalation Anthrax is almost always fatal.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:42 PM
Dec 2021

This Oltmann character is incredibly stupid. If they contracted Anthrax by being in a room together, they should be either dying or already dead.

Of course he could just be brain dead...a common, and quite incurable condition often manifested by right wingnuts.
Amazingly, brain dead right wingnuts can function for decades without having a single rational, coherent thought.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
25. Deep state engineered a gain of function version of Anthrax
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:15 PM
Dec 2021

that closely mimics COVID symptoms. It's the only possible explanation.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
29. Hope they ALL contract the virus
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:35 PM
Dec 2021

Damn! At the very least, may the suffer misery and lasting miserable symptoms.

G'damned idiots.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
30. how the hell do people this stupid get through life?
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:43 PM
Dec 2021

like... how do they even tie their shoes? let alone do all the things adults have to do.

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
34. My saying was always...
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:47 PM
Dec 2021

"How do they get their shoes on the right feet and get to work in the morning?"

CaptainTruth

(8,200 posts)
53. I sometimes fear we have made society too safe.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 09:11 PM
Dec 2021

I hate to say it, but there are times when I feel like with all the safety requirements on everything we use every day we have eliminated 99% of the ways stupid people could kill themselves before they breed. If someone thinks it's a good idea to put their toaster in the bathtub, who are we to require a GFCI on the branch circuit to save them from their own stupidity?

Yes, I'm being sarcastic, a little bit, anyway.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
63. When I heard a teen girl electrocuted herself with a plugged in phone in the bath tub
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 04:08 PM
Dec 2021

I'm sure her parents didn't raise her right.

Oh well, COVID is culling some of the herd.

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
32. And lung cancer. Lots of lung cancer.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:46 PM
Dec 2021

At least that's what the idiots dying of COVID are claiming. Screaming at the doctors that it's all fake.

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
35. November 2001 I had a blood infection.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:54 PM
Dec 2021

They treated me with Cipro. It's an antibiotic used to treat anthrax. Made my bones itch. It was pretty horrible. The infection was no picnic either. I think all these assholes should take Cipro. Just to be on the safe side.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
47. I took Cipro eye drops for an eye infection
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:42 PM
Dec 2021

The fun thing about those: you will taste Cipro for a week after your treatment.

The not-fun thing is they taste exactly like what I imagine Trump’s shit tastes like after he eats a bag of McRibs.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
40. Awww, rats. Somebody told them.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:05 PM
Dec 2021

They must have heard what happens to humans when they inject horse medicine and/or bleach. DAMN!!!

Since they wish to maintain their public denial of Covid-19, they can't very well now admit they all have it and request treatment for it. Those that were secretly vaxxed, and survive, won't want to admit it in public, and they will be expected to cover for the others who will ask for it on their death beds within the next several weeks.

TygrBright

(21,362 posts)
44. "Teh stoopid, it BUURRRRRNNNNZZZ!!!"
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:37 PM
Dec 2021

Yeah, but the existent and reliable tests for anthrax will confirm or deny this suspicion quickly, right?

Always assuming they are administered by those who are not Part of the Great Conspiracy!

I believe this is called "the infinite tail-chase."

amusedly,
Bright

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
45. Gee guys...
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:38 PM
Dec 2021

Didn’t anyone tell you? The COVID shot also protects you from the strain of anthrax you catch at those meetings.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
49. I was going to say to oltman, "no, you idiot, anthrax is what YOU F'n assholes
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:48 PM
Dec 2021

use to target women's health care providers, because you hate women. But the responses here are so much better.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
50. Yes, because that's what pro-vaxx groups are known for.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:53 PM
Dec 2021

Anthrax attacks and other acts of domestic terrorism.

Get the shot or be shot.

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
55. His salary depends on his not understanding it
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 02:28 AM
Dec 2021

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

~Upton Sinclair

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
57. Is it the alien DNA version of anthrax?
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 02:49 AM
Dec 2021

Soaking in Borax helps with that. In a ceramic tub with your head pointing north, of course.

leftyladyfrommo

(20,005 posts)
59. Attacked by anthrax?
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 08:45 AM
Dec 2021

That sounds like a Greek City State is attacking them.

I don't think anthrax is vicious unless you bother it first.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
60. Deep state developed a diabolical strain of anthrax
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 09:02 AM
Dec 2021

that mimics COVID symptoms, targets unvaccinated for more severe illness, and evades anthrax tests.

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