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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are so many DU posts just links to twitter? This has increased greatly recently.
Last edited Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:19 PM - Edit history (1)
I have a twitter account but really don't want that organization to know that I am interested in a story posted on DU. But many people have been simply posting a title and a twitter link as their full story.
Twitter just recently changed CEOs and probably changed its company structure, motivations, etc. I don't know that I can trust whoever now owns them.
Does DU encourage this type of linkage? If so, why?
**** Note that my issue happened because of a privacy blocker add-on. See post below. ****
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)3-15 minutes to say what I can read in less than 1.
Diamond_Dog
(31,928 posts)vanlassie
(5,665 posts)over amped person giving me their viewpoint first.
EarlG
(21,935 posts)People can post them if they want.
However: If you are only seeing a links to Twitter instead of actual tweets embedded in posts, we're not entirely sure why that might be the case. But some members have reported that content blocking scripts or extensions may prevent tweets from embedding properly, so if you are running something like that, it could be the cause.
erronis
(15,185 posts)the subject. Something that might indicate that they actually read the content, digested it, and gave a synopsis.
Yes, I do have a slew of blockers: Adblocker, DuckDuckGo, uMatrix, PrivacyBadger, etc.
But I also don't want twitter.com to harvest every post I want to read on DU. I'll read the tweets if the presented abstract is worthy. The less flashy visuals, the better.
erronis
(15,185 posts)I disabled it and the twitter images are coming through.
I still find it unfortunate that so much content needs to contact twitter.
Sugarcoated
(7,716 posts)Suggestion: Consider creating a DU Forum just for Twitter postings
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,928 posts)femmedem
(8,197 posts)Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Twitter remains the best source for news and for comment from important people we would never see otherwise
Twitter is what the user makes it. You shape it yourself by the ppl you follow.
Dissing twitter is like dissing yourself. You choose the content. Or not.
bucolic_frolic
(43,064 posts)Besides, we're too lazy to read. But on the bright side this is a thinking man's shallowness.
PatSeg
(47,284 posts)Oh, that's keeper!
I suppose some of it is laziness, but also, I think many people are on information overload and can only absorb so much. Meanwhile, I don't care much for Twitter and I believe it has contributed to a lot of shallowness in our society. I go there occasionally for some posts, but I don't linger long - get in and get out! I think the world was a better place pre-Twitter.
Bev54
(10,039 posts)and don't intend on ever getting one, but at least I get some of the important tweets on this forum. I find it valuable.
PatSeg
(47,284 posts)than spend any time on Twitter. I only opened a Twitter account because I often couldn't see the posted tweets.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)If it's shallow, or laziness........well, how did your feed get that way?
PatSeg
(47,284 posts)as I find little in depth information. It is often just brief statements followed by a variety reactions. It is rarely really informative. How much can you really convey in 280 characters? I don't post tweets or retweet anything. I occasionally go there to read a tweet and once and a rare while, I'll respond. That is as much of Twitter as I am inclined to use. I come here, as we actually discuss news, politics, and opinions. There is real interaction here and very little sniping.
That said, I do like a pithy quote now and then. Twitter is good for that, but we can have that without Twitter.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)....is that the reason you don't find it informative is because you don't make it so by choosing interesting or informative people to follow.
It is what you make it. All of the things that you say you desire in a site are available on twitter to me because of the choices I've made, plus the bonus is that I am able to interact directly and personally with (for example) four star General, authors and journalists, politicians, academics, and many more who are available to communicate personally on twitter and not elsewhere.
Don't assume that everyone's experience on twitter is as bland as the one you have made there.
PatSeg
(47,284 posts)but I have observed how it has affected our society and news reporting, especially since Trump got involved in politics. I also have seen how addictive it has been for some friends of mine, people who used to spend a lot of time on DU. Some of it wasn't very healthy.
Meanwhile, I appreciate your response and I have responded similarly to people who diss Facebook. How Facebook affects us depends on how we use it. For me, it has been primarily positive, though I have some issues with the company and their policies. That said, I really have no use for Twitter. We all have our own preferences and Twitter just doesn't work for me.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)Response to erronis (Original post)
femmedem This message was self-deleted by its author.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)And people want to share them?
Now do The Hill, Politico and the Daily Mail.
applegrove
(118,501 posts)news and memes. We get stuff from elsewhere too.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)msongs
(67,367 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,319 posts)I'm at work. I don't have time to fill in the rest of the story. Usually, after work, I'll come back and complete the post.
By posting the tweet, I provide you with enough links to pursue the story on your own, if you so choose.
NNadir
(33,477 posts)...I feel bad about doing so, since I object to the tweet mentality in general.
An abbreviation is not a word.
Likewise tweets are not really thoughts.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)The tweets speak for themselves in most cases.
I am a busy man with lots of things to do so I LOVE simple OP's that I can spend just a few seconds time reading and comprehending.
And the same when I post them - and I post them a LOT! (Ignore me if it really bothers you. I don't mind.)
I make sure to try and paste the linked tweet so IF others want to click it they can, or else they can wait and hopefully someone else with a bit more time on their hands will reply. Or they can see it is a tweet post and move on with little time wasted.
Replies are where the details are IF the community thinks the OP is worthwhile enough to reply to. If not it dies a quick death. No Harm No foul.
I also like in depth OP's and video's when I have time to read or watch them.
To each his own.
If you don't like tweet OP's then simply trash them, ignore them and move on...why stress yourself over them.
3auld6phart
(1,042 posts)Kind of along the same line more or less.
If you like a item you hit the like button.
It takes one to Facebook. Why that Reuke:
site? Quite a number of rants are really
outstanding. How does one show appreciation.
Seriously. Cant a tick mark be made that
shows ones appreciation? Not an FB fan.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)I joined in early 2019 and there were many posts that were exclusively twitter links when I joined. It seems there are roughly the same number of posts that link to twitter now.
Maybe that's just my perception.
Tetrachloride
(7,819 posts)that we all can appreciate.
I submit it should be a DU guideline.
PatSeg
(47,284 posts)A little context helps people to decide if they want to watch a video or go to another link to explore something further. If the link is an annoying site like The Hill, Raw Story, or Politico, I rarely click on it unless I really do want to know more.
erronis
(15,185 posts)to be shown in the post.
My apologies for stirring this pot. But I still think it's a problem when a DU reader needs to get content from another site to even understand the original post. Next up: newsmax.com, rt.com, fox.com, ....
Irish_Dem
(46,579 posts)I am not on Twitter and so appreciate DUers posting informative posts from there.
Pinback
(12,152 posts)the subject of the post gives some indication of what the Tweet is about. The ones that really drive me up the wall are posts with subject lines reading "Firstname Lastname Tweet," or "Firstname Lastname for the win!" etc. These are about as useful as "This!" I open none of these posts.
How about something like "Firstname Lastname on a path forward for BBB" or "Tweet: Voting rights protection now!," and so on.
Then, for bonus points, perhaps the body of the post might contain an original sentence or two , or offer an opinion about why this particular Tweet or series of Tweets is worth reading.
I support EarlG's position that link-to-Tweet posts shouldn't be banned, but I guarantee I will continue leaving these posts unopened when the subject line offers not even a hint of the contents. I wish there were a way to automatically ignore such threads, although I won't put the authors of the OPs on Ignore since they may post valuable responses within threads.
PatSeg
(47,284 posts)TheProle
(2,159 posts)if Tiedrich doesn't reduce it to a bumper sticker and pepper it with naughty words?
I need my red meat and don't want to have to think about nuance!
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)I'll wipe the drill of my chin and read more tweets.
Wicked Blue
(5,821 posts)to figure out whether I want to click on something
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Out how the top scientists talk to each other about Covid in real time
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Also true of other disciplines as well!
Amazing people share their expertise and learning on twitter, free for the reading!
DBoon
(22,340 posts)This includes people working from home through a VPN. Clicking on arbitrary links is also a very bad security practice.
It would be an appreciated courtesy to post a summary of the content. If the tweet references a story in the press, provide the original link to the story.
48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)zuul
(14,624 posts)to video clips?
Does DU encourage this?
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)people complaining about how and what others post?
Shermann
(7,399 posts)Pinback
(12,152 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)mainer
(12,018 posts)And because most journalists have twitter accounts, and they often post their news flashes there first.
erronis
(15,185 posts)I really thought there used to be some personal content, opinion added.
I guess we're really all just lazy and think that we should show everyone else what we are watching, just like facebook.
Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)erronis
(15,185 posts)There's usually no reason for a company to sell out unless someone can offer a deal that can't be refused. The deal can be tons of bucks like FB or a friendly US agency or another entity (meaning inscrutable.) These happen for reasons, not just because.
Didn't DU have more home-grown content instead of the current posts of links to somewhere else? I don't know. My experience is that there are far few people writing personal essays than there used to be. Much more echoing of some other platform.
Glad you're happy with it all. Keep on posting pictures!
Kaleva
(36,259 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)hatrack
(59,578 posts)As CO2 increases in the atmosphere, Earth warms.
Simultaneously, as atmospheric CO2 content rises, human brain function is increasingly impaired.
As human brain function is impaired, attention spans shrink.
Shorter attention spans? More Twitter!!
librechik
(30,674 posts)So almost all of our posts start with articles/videos from other places. Apparently Twitter reaches a lot of folks on DU, but I seldom go there. When I find a Twitter piece here that I watch, I'm grateful to the DUer who posted it here so I don't have to go to Twitter.
That being said, Twitter kinda sucks.
And DU, thank goodness, is not Twitter.