Bernie urging Pres Biden to sack Louis DeJoy

[womanofthehills]

Now, if you pay for priority mail - good luck for when it arrives. It used to be 2 - 3 days and now more like 5-6.
Bernie says medicines, Christmas presents not arriving on time and people who pay bills by mail are being charged late fees. This last one includes my cousin who I cannot convince to pay his bills online. Now, he’s pissed at the utilities when he should really be mad at the PO.

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[AllaN01Bear]

1. wernt we supposed to have a full majiority on the postal board to get rid of this so&so?

what happened with that ?

[soldierant]

21. The old head of the board of governors is out. Joe's latest two nominees are awaiting Senate confir

JOE CAN'T FIRE DEJOY.
The postal Board of Governors has to do it/

Scream at your Senators to rush confirmation of these nominees.

[SCantiGOP]

22. I've read before that it will be January before the new Board members can act

[soldierant]

56. Quite likely.

I hadn't seen that but it makes sense. Thanks.

[AllaN01Bear]

24. so, tfg couldnt fire the fellow before dejoy , but he did ?

[AncientAndy]

33. He didn't fire her. She retired.

https://about.usps.com/newsroom/national-releases/2019/1016-usps-announces-retirement-of-pmg-megan-j-brennan.htm

[AllaN01Bear]

39. thanks for correction aa.input good . i stand corrected.

[George II]

46. We would have but a single Senator, with ulterior motives, blocked four of Obama's nominations.

[gab13by13]

2. My memory still works part time,

I was told we had to wait until December (what month is this) for Postal Board Chair Ron Bloom's term to expire. I guess there are a few more days left in December but whenever Bloom's term expires DeJoy has to go shortly thereafter.

[former9thward]

8. Ron Bloom left on December 8th.

So the people who said Bloom was the one keeping DeJoy on have to find someone else to blame.

[littlemissmartypants]

3. Hear, hear!!

[dchill]

4. I agree with Bernie. Again.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. Most do... and for good reason.

[Greybnk48]

60. I have never NOT agreed with Bernie.

He's always spot on.

[Seinan Sensei]

5. I talked today to a Veteran

I talked today to a Veteran who didn't get his heart medicine in timely fashion.
He's fine now. but not before he made a trip to the emergency room.

I vote that DeJoy MUST receive ALL his meds via USPS.

[choie]

6. Why is this still an issue?

Enough with this bullshit - does every move forward have to be so belabored?

[Doremus]

7. Damn good questions

Doubt we'll ever learn the answers.

[myohmy2]

25. +1...

...seemed like trump was firing someone every other day...

...getting and paying bills on time through the mail has become a challenge...

...and it shouldn't be...

[EleanorR]

9. No, Bernie asked Biden to demand Dejoy's resignation, because he knows Biden can't fire Dejoy

Biden has nominated two more board members, and once approved the new board can fire Dejoy.

Nov. 19, 2021

WASHINGTON — President Biden on Friday nominated two new members to the U.S. Postal Service’s board of governors, a move that could jeopardize Louis DeJoy’s position as postmaster general.

Mr. Biden nominated Daniel M. Tangherlini, a former administrator of the General Services Administration during the Obama administration, and Derek Kan, a Republican business executive and former deputy director of the Office of Management and Budget during the Trump administration, to serve on the board.

The president chose Mr. Tangherlini and Mr. Kan to succeed two board members whose terms are ending next month and who have been close allies of Mr. DeJoy. Those two members — Ron Bloom, the board’s chairman and a Democrat, and John M. Barger, a Republican — were appointed by President Donald J. Trump.

Mr. DeJoy, a Trump campaign megadonor and former business executive, has been mired in controversy over cost-cutting measures that were faulted for slowing mail delivery during the 2020 election, when many voters used absentee ballots amid the coronavirus pandemic. The postmaster general can be removed only by the board of governors.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/19/us/politics/biden-usps-board-members.html

[JohnSJ]

11. Thank-you. Obviously some of the posts don't seem to understand what is involved, and

Sanders is just trying to get some attention

[TheFarseer]

19. Yeah, Bernie Sanders is clearly the problem here.

Why can’t everyone see that?

[W_HAMILTON]

20. Sanders blaming Biden when Biden has done all he can right now...

...is a problem, yes.

[TheFarseer]

30. Why is that a problem?

Does that keep DeJoy in even more? I haven’t heard much from Biden or anyone about all of the problems a degraded postal service is causing or any kind of fuss about how this is an outrage. Why don’t they try to drum up enough outrage from everyone that he’s basically under siege and can’t wait to just get out? I’m so tired of Democrats telling me they’d like to help but it’s impossible. This should be so easy to get popular support. Find one person that thinks the post office should NOT be faster and more efficient!!

[W_HAMILTON]

32. Because Sanders should know better.

And if Sanders doesn't know how the process works in firing someone like DeJoy, well, even better that Biden is our president and Sanders is not.

We've already seen what can happen when someone like Sanders unfairly attacks (at best) or outright lies (at worst) about others on the left, thereby causing voters that actually listen to the man to become disillusioned based on his misinformation, thereby allowing Republicans to get elected (see: 2016). Let's not have that happen again, shall we?

[TheFarseer]

34. Now I get it

Sanders is to blame for everything because he ran for President in an open primary. Give me a break!

[W_HAMILTON]

64. No, Sanders is to blame for more disingenuous criticisms of his allies...

...which, as we have already seen, most certainly has negative consequences.

And, while we're on the subject, I'm not sure anything good ever even comes from it. It comes off as disingenuous grandstanding and attacking allies -- as Sanders has been known to do going back years (remember the Barney Frank comment?). Nothing ever got done because Sanders took to social media to criticize an ally already working on getting that something done.

[betsuni]

66. +1

[Cha]

35. That was my question.. Why

doesn't Sen Sanders know this?

[TheFarseer]

38. Asking someone to resign is just beyond the pale?

You do understand how if you demand someone resign and keep demanding it and building the case against them and building popular pressure, it may work? It worked for Al Franken, but asking a complete failure and embarrassment like DeJoy to resign is just stupid? What am I missing here?

[lapucelle]

41. The irony, given the backstory. N/T

[W_HAMILTON]

63. Except Sanders didn't ask DeJoy to resign.

Instead, Sanders unfairly criticized Biden for DeJoy still being in place.

If Sanders focused his attack on DeJoy instead of unnecessary criticism of Biden, I, in particular, would not have had a problem with what he said.

[betsuni]

48. [phone]

[JohnSJ]

55. Dejoy has made it clear early on he would not step down, and Biden is nominating postal board

of governors, who can remove Dejoy

Why doesn’t everyone see what Biden has been doing is the question, not some futile request that everyone knows dejoy won’t do.

[questionseverything]

58. De ass is clearly slowing the mail, which is illegal

He needs to be arrested and fired

[monkeyman1]

23. pick his poison- resign or jail ?

[Greybnk48]

61. Bernie's keeping the heat on DeJoy, and President Biden may have ASKED him to! n/t

[JohnSJ]

10. Sanders knows perfectly well the president can't fire dejoy directly, and Biden asking him for

his immediate resignation, dejoy will just thumb his nose at that

It is the postal board that needs to do it

But hey, Bernie got some attention

[gab13by13]

12. Sanders never asked president Biden to fire DeJoy,

What's the big issue if Bernie wants president Biden to ask DeJoy to resign? Would it be less of an issue if it were Chuck Schumer asking Biden to ask DeJoy to resign? The entire Democratic Congress should ask president Biden to ask DeJoy to resign.

So who has to approve the new Postal Board members? Whoever it is maybe Bernie should be asking he/she to move it along?

Who approves the new members, the Senate?

[George II]

16. The Senate does, and one Senator can block nominations. When Obama left office he had four....

...."lame duck" nominees that were blocked by a Senator. That Senator was Bernie Sanders. He had five approved earlier, so when Obama left office he would have had a majority of appointed members.

[lapucelle]

29. So one senator blocked a Democratic president's agenda & six years later we're all still suffering

the consequences?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/years-turmoil-postal-service-governing-board-fueled-political/story?id=72482926

[gab13by13]

13. DeJoy should be investigated for using his office

to give contracts to companies that he is invested in. That in itself is grounds for president Biden to ask him to resign.

[lapucelle]

14. There's an interesting history behind this mess.

Years of turmoil at Postal Service governing board fueled political firestorm, critics say
A years-old Senate standoff contributed to the current controversy, experts say.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/years-turmoil-postal-service-governing-board-fueled-political/story?id=72482926

[betsuni]

50. Thank you!

[George II]

15. Is he serious? Did he forget that he BLOCKED a number of Obama's nominations to the board..

....in late 2016 which resulted in DeJoy becoming head of the board.

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-budget/311113-post-office-loses-another-51-billion-bernie-continues-to

Post Office loses another $5.1 billion; Bernie continues to prevent help

And then, there were none.

Not a single member remains of the Postal Board of Governors. The board, which is supposed to have 11 members – nine appointed by the president and approved by Congress, as well as the Postmaster General and Deputy Postmaster General – lost its final outside member, James Bilbray, when his term expired at midnight on Dec. 8.

he governors, who advise the Postal Service on management, approve price changes and can fire the Postmaster General, serve staggered 9-year terms, so one member’s term expires each year on Dec. 8. If no replacement is approved, the law permits a governor to serve for an additional year. The board must have six members to achieve quorum.

President Obama has nominated five people to serve on the board – three Democrats and two Republicans. The Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, which has jurisdiction over the Postal Service, has approved all five. But the full Senate has not taken up the matter because a senator – believed to be Bernie Sanders – has placed a hold on their nominations.

Note: this article is from 2016. It is no longer "believed" to be Bernie Sanders, it WAS Bernie Sanders.

And now we have DeJoy.

[Cha]

36. Why did Sen Sanders Block PRes

Obama's Nominees to the PO Board?!!

[betsuni]

52. In 2020, the Daily Kos guy said it's "A reminder of what purity brings you" to which Sanders' former

national spokeswoman Briahna Joy Gray replied, "Markos is a dumb ass and this is a dumb ass tweet."

Might be a "donor class" thing. Two of the Democrats nominated donated to the Democratic Party.

[Cha]

62. Ugh!

And, here we are...

I'll take what Markos has to say over bjg Every time.

TY

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. Bernie's right, as usual!!

[George II]

27. So then, why did he block FOUR of Obama's nominations to the board back in 2016? Had he....

...allowed a vote on those four in the Senate, DeJoy would never have been on the board.

It's ironic that now he's calling on Biden to fire DeJoy (which he can't anyway)

[Cha]

37. No he's not.. not from reading

the replies.

[DFW]

42. Welllllllll..............

You're correct, of course, but you can't pick on every little detail

[Cha]

43. Details Details Details!

What do they say about what's in the Details?

[DFW]

47. Let me see there, I used to know what cubit was......

I don't get the sudden onslaught of "Bernie said...." posts. Sure, we all see who they're from, but so what? Is there some reason he is in desperate need of getting quoted a lot, no matter on what, or why? Next thing I expect to see is a "Bernie said 'onions and mushrooms,' showing solidarity with agricultural workers!!" post, quoting his most recent visit to a hamburger joint.

[lapucelle]

40. "That standoff. [...] has emerged as a poignant example of the law of unintended consequences."

Sanders' decision in 2015 and 2016 to block two of the Obama administration's nominees -- made at the behest of powerful union leaders -- and McConnell's decision to block the rest in retaliation created a unique opportunity for President Donald Trump to appoint a full slate of picks to a panel that is meant to be comprised of bipartisan members serving staggered, seven-year terms.

That standoff over the appointees has emerged as a poignant example of the law of unintended consequences.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/years-turmoil-postal-service-governing-board-fueled-political/story?id=72482926

[Demsrule86]

51. Hi, how are you? We are dealing with Covid here but so far all have survived...Sen Sanders

is not correct in this case...two of Biden's nominees are awaiting confirmation. Pres. Biden does not have the authority to fire DeJoy but he is working on it and ultimately, DeJoy will go with a full; board who will fire his criminal butt.

Sen. Sanders likely misspoke and should make a correction soon. But Sen. Sanders is correct DeJoy must go and he will go -President Biden will see to that as soon- as soon as his nominees are confirmed.

[Jazz Jon]

26. Prosecute Him

It's a felony to interfere with the US mail. Am I correct?

DeJoy has criminally interfered with US mail on many occasions. Why has nobody prosecuted him for this? For example, DeJoy ordered the dismantling and disposal of perfectly good hi-speed mail sorting machines (that were working and in use,) right before the last presidential election. If that's not criminal tampering with the mail, what is?! 😡😡

[questionseverything]

59. Plus 1

N/t

[FakeNoose]

28. I thought that was the plan already - fill the board up with Democrats

President Biden cannot fire DeJoy, we already know that. It's the Board of Trustees that has to fire him.

Either way DeJoy has to go. He wants to privatize the entire US Postal System and we CANNOT ALLOW that to happen!

[George II]

31. This is why trump was able to put DeJoy on the Board (Postal News article from November 2015):

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the only 2016 presidential candidate to address postal issues in his campaign, has been acting without public attention on another important postal issue.

The Vermont senator single handily has forced the United States Postal Service board of governors out of business, two individuals familiar with the issue have told Linn’s.

By placing holds on President Barack Obama’s appointments to the board during the past two years, Sanders has allowed the board to shrink to what will be a single presidential appointee as of Dec. 9.

https://postalnews.com/blog/2015/09/05/has-bernie-sanders-forced-the-usps-board-of-governors-out-of-business/

[W_HAMILTON]

65. It is the plan.

Sanders is either completely oblivious to what most us here at DU are already aware of or he is just grandstanding on social media again.

Neither is a good look.

[Skittles]

44. WTF IS TAKING SO LONG

GET THE FUCK RID OF HIM ALREADY

[George II]

45. The President cannot fire DeJoy, only the whole Board can. We have to wait until some of trump's....

...nominees' terms run out.

Unfortunately this was all brought about by a single Senator blocking four of Obama's nominees in 2015/2016. Without that block, this year there would be a majority of Democratic nominated members of the board, and DeJoy would have been gone months ago.

Sadly we have to wait until there's a majority of Democratic nominated members, which is right about now.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

54. IKR!!

[NurseJackie]

49. Can Biden do that? Is it legal?

Just like that?

[AmBlue]

57. Cannot REC this hard enough!!

Sack that sack o' sh*t grifting scumbag!!!!!