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drray23

(7,627 posts)
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 06:47 PM Dec 2021

Why Elisabeth Holmes and not Trump ?

She is currently on trial for defrauding investors by misrepresenting what her company was accomplishing and selling.
She is facing up to 20 years if found guilty.

All that is understandable, however I fail to see why Trump is not in the same predicament. After all, the Trump University debacle was also fraud on a grand scale.

He has a plethora of other dubious schemes that could qualify as well.

What is Trump doing that has kept him out of prison for decades, even prior to being president ?


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Stargleamer

(1,989 posts)
1. He knows the value of delay, impede, appeal, postpone. . .
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 06:50 PM
Dec 2021

in evading justice. He has a legal team with years of experience in these endeavors.

FelineOverlord

(3,578 posts)
2. His pal Rudy
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 06:57 PM
Dec 2021

Was Mayor of NYC for 8 years. There are rumors he kept him out of trouble at least for those years.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
14. It was before that when he started committing crimes
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 11:02 PM
Dec 2021

He was committing crimes long before he was president. My best guess as to why he tried to overthrow the country, is that by serving two terms the seven-year statute of limitations on all his pre-election crimes would have expired while he was still in office.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
5. You simply don't understand
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 07:23 PM
Dec 2021

Ms. Holmes is on trial for the same reason Bernie Madoff was: fleecing the rich.

If she’s have ripped off the working class like Trump did, she’d still be free.

keep_left

(1,783 posts)
10. Yup, she ripped off her investors...
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 07:32 PM
Dec 2021

in a big way. It's hard to overstate what a scam she was running. She had contracts with drugstores like Walgreens that were already a going concern even before the Theranos machines could be delivered (and of course, they didn't work). And her corporate board was a who's-who of government/military leaders (e.g. George Schultz). There is a really good book about the Theranos scam: Bad Blood by John Carreyrou.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
11. I read somewhere that he was sometimes an informer for the feds. I have no idea if that's
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 07:55 PM
Dec 2021

true, but it would explain why they let him get away with everything for so long. He'd still be protected if he hadn't run for president.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
12. It wasn't just investors,
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 07:59 PM
Dec 2021

They gave patients invalid blood test results. Diabetics thought they were miraculously cured, non-diabetics thought they were diabetic, and worst of all, cancer survivors got bad news regarding blood markers leading them to believe their cancers were back

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