Did Tr**p Really Think He Could Get Away With Stealing The Election?....

[global1]

The whole world was watching. There's no way he would have pulled out a win.

I just can't believe that the Repugs have and are still going along with him. There must be a large number of them that were involved with the planning and carrying out of the insurrection.

Again - I'm blown away that they really thought that they could pull this off.

[Stinky The Clown]

1. Yes he did. Other "strong men" have done it broad daylight.

His problem is simple, however. He is a WEAK man

[Eliot Rosewater]

8. You hit on it. He was unwilling to say loudly what he wanted to

and that was he wanted them to kill anyone who would not steal it like Pence.

But he is such a coward he couldnt say it out loud.

I do believe if he is allowed to run again, our democracy will not survive no matter what happens.

[Me.]

2. Why Not?

He's gotten away with everything else. Never held accountable for anything.

[Bucky]

3. They plan to do it again in 2024

And yes, there will be hell to pay if they steal White House with hijinks and counting the Electoral College. Really, their Plan A is to go for voter suppression in swing states.

[Progressive Jones]

11. "Suppress My Vote, And I'll Cut Your ______." nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

4. Republicans only support "law and order" if it means...

... they remain in power.

They love legal technicalities too. If there's some TINY DETAIL in the laws that allows them to be immoral, they'll seize on it.

[RockRaven]

9. "Law and order" in the mouth of politicians is a code word for keeping POC in their place.

It's got no application to what Republicans do in office (elected or appointed) as far as they are concerned.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

20. Yes, that too!

I'm almost surprised there haven't been more Republican lawyers trying to reinterpret the 13th Amendment of the Constitution, to permit slavery again by obfuscating the definition of the word.

African Americans have indeed received the brunt of the social dominance relished by many people in this country's history. They've repeatedly been like the canaries in the coal mine, so to speak.

It wasn't too long before the colonization of America that feudalism had persisted for centuries in Europe, with serfs providing almost the entirety of gross domestic product in those mostly agricultural economies. Meanwhile, they had few opportunities to advance their positions in life. Many of them weren't even allowed to visit some relative at a nearby town without prior permission from their local lord. And those kinds of social hierarchies obviously still appealed to many early Americans, including the founding fathers, so they persisted.

Many modern-day Republicans who want to dominate others are obviously fine with it. I sometimes wonder if the "good old days" to them might mean a return to a feudal system, given the way they act.

[marie999]

22. It is legal under the 13th Amendment, just using a different name for it.

I don't know if any states still use it.

[Skittles]

5. he had already done it once

so....yes

[RockRaven]

6. Other people (who he idolizes/admires) have done it, he was surrounded by enablers, and

he's never been held accountable for his most egregious misdeeds in the past...

Sorry, but I don't see where the incredulity comes from.

[uponit7771]

7. Yes, and until we have a rational answer as to why it to the NG 4 hours to respond it looks like he

... had some armed forces support behind him.

Fuck that, it even looks like some the flag officers lied to congress .. this is so messed up

[Deuxcents]

10. Consequences gotta come stiff n soon

This just cannot stand. 240 years.. give or take. N who the hell is he to think he can destroy us?

[Hoyt]

12. It keeps him relevant to some people. He knows he lost, just like boxers

who claim “they were robbed.”

[KT2000]

13. Bush did it

why not the slob. The Supreme Court did it for Bush and he was sure they would do it for him.

[BigmanPigman]

14. Of course he did, he always has in the past.

[gab13by13]

15. Why do you think he couldn't do it?

[viva la]

16. Maybe all along it was for the $

He has elongated the grift time by claiming he was cheating.

[Takket]

17. yeah he did

losing in 2020 was literally the first time in his entire life he ever faced a consequence for something. imagine living like that for over 70 years.

[unblock]

18. Coups often seem ridiculous and absurd until they succeed

How did they get away with stealing 2000? They pretty blatantly said, "we don't like where this recount is headed, so we're going to stop it now while the Republican is still ahead and arbitrarily declare the process over. Oh hey, our guy won. What are the odds."

The idea that justice is best served by not looking too closely at the votes is bonkers, but they got away with it.


And then Donnie won in 2016 after being behind in pretty much every reasonable poll all campaign long.


How is it that the reichstag agreed to end itself and hand over all powers to hitler? Crazy right? Couldn't possibly happen. Well, unless they felt threatened by a bunch of violent partisans screaming for more power for their guy....

[Kaleva]

28. Polls in key battleground states shifted towards TFG near the end of the campaign

In MI for example, Hillary's lead had fallen to within the margin of error.

" In late October 2016, Clinton's lead narrowed significantly towards the election. Trump also won the last poll conducted on election day 49% to 47%.[32] The average of the last three polls had Clinton leading Trump 47.6% to 45%"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Michigan#Polling

TFG ended up winning the state by just 10,704 votes.

It's important to look at the margin of error when reading the polls. A poll showing a candidate having a lead of 3% with the margin of error being +/- 4% means the other candidate could still win.

Your comment:

"How is it that the reichstag agreed to end itself and hand over all powers to hitler?"

It was President Hindenburg that appointed Hitler to be Chancellor. Hitler was chancellor when the Reichstag fire happened and he convinced Hindenburg to sign the Reichstag Fire Decree into law which the Weimar Republic constitution allowed him to do. The Nazi's used this la to purge communist's out of the Reichstag which gave the Nazis and their allies majority control of the Reichstag.

[unblock]

30. The point about hitler's solidification of power is that it seemed absurd and impossible

People didn't imagine that he would practically waltz in as chancellor and become an overt dictator in a matter of 52 days.

When you combine demonization of political opponents enough violence to make an excuse for emergency powers, anything can happen.

And it could have, here, on January 6.

[Hekate]

19. Yes. Yes he did. "The whole world was watching" doesn't mean much at all-- they would have watched

…him announce his triumph while jutting his Mussolini chin out.

[Johnny2X2X]

21. He would have gotten away with it had he been successful

The media wouldn’t have done much about it.

[XanaDUer2]

23. Yes, he did nt

[ProfessorGAC]

24. So Did The Suckers That Went To The Capitol...

...on 1/6.
They thought the cops, federal marshalls, military et al would be on their side.
They really believed they'd achieve their ends, and never considered failing & be left twisting in the wind by their hero, the pretend billionaire.

[UTUSN]

25. He lives for headlines, has no head for history

[Septua]

26. He STILL thinks...

..he can get away with it 'cause he's planning and scheming the second attempt as we watch...

[malaise]

27. Yes

because he’s rarely been held accountable - but the scumbag underestimated both the institutions and the American people

[Kaleva]

29. TFG believes the election was stolen from him.

[Justice matters.]

31. They (and he) did not know Congress has secret places to go for protection?

Even the garage? (Where pence hid?)

[brooklynite]

32. Trump DIDN'T think he was "stealing" the election...

...Trump is convinced he won (or SHOULD have won) except for the Democratic cheating.

[WarGamer]

34. When pushed, he's said that the election ITSELF was the cheat...

That a 100% mail-in Election itself was the cheat.

[WarGamer]

33. He thought there was a legal loophole...

It's his MO his whole life.

Use the Courts to do his bidding.

He thought there was some legal manner of picking out a Constitutional matchstick to build a log cabin.

There wasn't.