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Stinky The Clown

(67,817 posts)
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:01 PM Dec 2021

Who remembers what "cipro" is? (Ciprofloxacin)

Who remembers people doing everything they could to get it? Who remembers the shortage of it, and why?

It seems almost as a mirror image of today, albeit on a very small scale.

Cipro is the antidote to anthrax exposure. Exposure that was both real and imagined in the wake of 9/11. Tom Daschle and one other Senator got letters with Anthrax in it. A small number of people actually died because of the intentional contaminations of anthrax. The FBI was deep into investigating the source(s). Iraq? Iran? A pissed off or demented scientist, maybe?

On a widespread basis people were, figuratively, running TOWARD cipro. Contrast that to today, when people are running AWAY from masks and vax on a widespread basis.

Curious creatures, those humans . . . . . . kinda like sheep but in self selected herds.

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Who remembers what "cipro" is? (Ciprofloxacin) (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Dec 2021 OP
I was prescribed cipro for a nasty UTI a long time ago. Anyway... ck4829 Dec 2021 #1
Cipro is interesting for that issue... PCIntern Dec 2021 #9
I do PJMcK Dec 2021 #2
I'm pretty sure I was prescribed Cipro for stepp throat .many years ago. Arkansas Granny Dec 2021 #3
I remember the crazed freakazoid meltdown some people had about it. Aristus Dec 2021 #4
It turned me into a newt! EYESORE 9001 Dec 2021 #10
I had an infection in my jaw from an infected tooth, doc gave me Cipro bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #12
Having seen the serious and often permanent tendon/nerve damage that occurs with it not infrequently hlthe2b Dec 2021 #14
This is why I was scared to death to take it kcr Dec 2021 #18
Glad to hear you prescribe it conservatively. roamer65 Dec 2021 #25
I try to prescribe all antibiotics conservatively. Aristus Dec 2021 #28
Smart Doctor! roamer65 Dec 2021 #29
Physician Assistant. Aristus Dec 2021 #30
.. roamer65 Dec 2021 #33
... Aristus Dec 2021 #34
In those days, the right wing worried about bioterrorists spreading lethal diseases unblock Dec 2021 #5
Ciprofloxacin is a FDA black boxed fluoroquinlone antibiotic. roamer65 Dec 2021 #6
i was told it causes tendon ruptures, way after the fact. mopinko Dec 2021 #7
It cleaves into 4 components in the body. roamer65 Dec 2021 #11
True but it's a necessary drug for some diseases. Elessar Zappa Dec 2021 #19
Understandable. roamer65 Dec 2021 #24
I'm allergic to it. smirkymonkey Dec 2021 #20
I had the full blown fluoroquinolone reaction. roamer65 Dec 2021 #23
Just for the record... Bobstandard Dec 2021 #8
I remember it, and I remember various individuals who were forced to take it, GoCubsGo Dec 2021 #13
I had it once iemanja Dec 2021 #15
Had it once. Nausea, awful nightmares. I avoid it NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #16
I don't recall living during anthrax left-of-center2012 Dec 2021 #17
Wow I forgot all about this Duncanpup Dec 2021 #21
Watch for the nightmares. roamer65 Dec 2021 #22
Thank you Duncanpup Dec 2021 #27
I had a weird blood infection early in 2002. Just after the anthrax scare. louis-t Dec 2021 #26
I'll never forget about Cipro. xmas74 Dec 2021 #31
Remember it? I took a boatload of it in 1990. Grammy23 Dec 2021 #32

ck4829

(35,081 posts)
1. I was prescribed cipro for a nasty UTI a long time ago. Anyway...
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:05 PM
Dec 2021

People are fickle. Collectively, we have a worse memory than a goldfish.

PCIntern

(25,575 posts)
9. Cipro is interesting for that issue...
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:21 PM
Dec 2021

I had some significant prostate and bladder work done years ago and had a slight infection so they gave me Cipro for three days only and about a week later it came roaring back worse than ever. So they prescribed it for another three days, I prescribed myself 10 days worth even though it’s like battery acid. It knocked the infection right out permanently, but I do recall the anthrax business all too well.

PJMcK

(22,041 posts)
2. I do
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:05 PM
Dec 2021

Citro is a powerful antibiotic. It was prescribed for me in 2003 after a minor surgical procedure. My doctor joked to me to hold onto it in case of an anthrax attack. Instead, I followed the prescription and used it up after ten days.

Aristus

(66,437 posts)
4. I remember the crazed freakazoid meltdown some people had about it.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:15 PM
Dec 2021

For a while, people at DU were posting things like "I was prescribed Cipro, and my stomach jumped out through my mouth, my limbs all fell off and then grew back in the wrong places, I started farting blue flame, and termites started swimming around in my belly button!"

Yes, Cipro, like all fluoroquinolones, comes with some potentially troublesome side effects. Which is why, as with all antibiotics, I tend to prescribe it conservatively.

But the yelling and screaming hair-on-fire screeds against Cipro tended to strain credulity.

bottomofthehill

(8,343 posts)
12. I had an infection in my jaw from an infected tooth, doc gave me Cipro
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:23 PM
Dec 2021

Cleaned out the infection and everything else in my system. But the important thing was that it cleared up the infection. Much like the vaccine, there may be some side effects, but it bears the alternative of death

hlthe2b

(102,337 posts)
14. Having seen the serious and often permanent tendon/nerve damage that occurs with it not infrequently
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:35 PM
Dec 2021

(orthopedic surgeons on both the human and veterinary sides have both experienced the consequences of its all-too-frequent use)... At least they didn't have to deal with the aftermath of those managing to acquire it and taking it willy nilly out of hyped bioterrorism fear...

This class of antibiotics (quinolones) are a truly mixed blessing--especially given that doxycycline and procaine penicillin G are every bit as effective against anthrax. But media hype--once it gets started...

Yes, I remember well.

kcr

(15,318 posts)
18. This is why I was scared to death to take it
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 02:00 PM
Dec 2021

DU wasn't the only place talking about such horrible side effects. But apparently, they're rare. In any case, it did a good job knocking out the infection and I don't recall any notable side effects.

Aristus

(66,437 posts)
28. I try to prescribe all antibiotics conservatively.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 04:41 PM
Dec 2021

You would be amazed at the number of people who think antibiotics are magic and can cure anything. I've even had patients who, even after I have told them they have a virus and the only cure is time, rest, and symptomatic treatment, ask me "Don't I get any antibiotics?"

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
29. Smart Doctor!
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:07 PM
Dec 2021


Fluoroquinolones are particular nasty and once you react to them, they become a life or death option only.

unblock

(52,289 posts)
5. In those days, the right wing worried about bioterrorists spreading lethal diseases
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:16 PM
Dec 2021

These people can flip on a dime on any issue and be utterly convinced they're right at all times.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
6. Ciprofloxacin is a FDA black boxed fluoroquinlone antibiotic.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:18 PM
Dec 2021

Originally developed as a chemotherapy drug, Bayer repurposed it as an antibiotic.

It has caused damage to a LOT of people. It damaged me.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
11. It cleaves into 4 components in the body.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:22 PM
Dec 2021

One of them is a known neurotoxin.

Cyclopropyl.

Many people who have encountered Ciprofloxacin’s side effects have likened them to chemotherapy side effects.

That is because it is a failed chemotherapy drug.

https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/patient-education/ciprofloxacin-systemic-01

Elessar Zappa

(14,022 posts)
19. True but it's a necessary drug for some diseases.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 02:03 PM
Dec 2021

I have cystic fibrosis and Cipro is one of the only drugs that my lung bacteria are sensitive to. So I usually get a couple of 14 day IV infusions of cipro per year. I have to weigh the negatives against the positives.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
24. Understandable.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 02:54 PM
Dec 2021

I would now only take a FQ antibiotic if there were zero alternatives.

…and I would want to hear multiple MD’s tell me that.

Bobstandard

(1,318 posts)
8. Just for the record...
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:21 PM
Dec 2021

Just for the record Cipro is often prescribed for folks who have an intestinal infection resulting from a diverticulae, an abnormal pouch in the colon that collects fecal matter. It may also be prescribed for other UTIs. It works on bacteria.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
13. I remember it, and I remember various individuals who were forced to take it,
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:31 PM
Dec 2021

including the ones you mentioned. Keith Olbermann was another. I have always believed that the whole Anthrax threat was an invention of the Bush-Cheney administration, in order to scare people into going along with their bogus "War on Terror." And, to punish people who spoke out against the administration, like Olbermann and Daschle and Pat Leahy.

iemanja

(53,050 posts)
15. I had it once
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:43 PM
Dec 2021

for an infection that would not go away with regular antibiotics. Cipro is a powerful medication, and they kept access low so the bacteria couldn't develop a resistance to it.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
17. I don't recall living during anthrax
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 01:45 PM
Dec 2021

But I have had Cipro prescribed a number of times for an antibiotic during my 75 years.

So, yes I remember Cipro.

Duncanpup

(12,872 posts)
21. Wow I forgot all about this
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 02:41 PM
Dec 2021

I’m on cipro now cut hand got infection never happened before yet now at 55 oh well.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
22. Watch for the nightmares.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 02:49 PM
Dec 2021

That is signal to stop taking it.

Taking cipro is like tickling the tail of a dragon.

louis-t

(23,296 posts)
26. I had a weird blood infection early in 2002. Just after the anthrax scare.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 03:00 PM
Dec 2021

Cipro was prescribed. It made my bones itch. Horrible stuff. The joke at my office was "Looks like you'll be handing out the mail for awhile."

xmas74

(29,675 posts)
31. I'll never forget about Cipro.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:33 PM
Dec 2021

Every time I have to answer a question about allergic reactions it gets mentioned.
If I'm exposed to anthrax I'll be receiving tetracycline instead of cipro.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
32. Remember it? I took a boatload of it in 1990.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:36 PM
Dec 2021

I had had a lumpectomy for breast cancer in July. The wound would not heal. I was receiving radiation therapy so there was an assumption that the radiation was causing the problem. So I took a long round or two or three of Cipro. My stomach wasn’t too happy about that. Eventually — months later — more surgery was recommended and tiny remnants of some medicated gauze was found deep in the wound. That was removed and over a long period (from Oct. to Feb.) it finally healed.

Cipro was considered a kind of big gun at the time but the wound never would have healed (according to my surgeon) until they got that medical debris out from the previous surgery. 🤷🏻?♀️
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