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BlueBlud

(57 posts)
Sat Dec 25, 2021, 10:23 PM Dec 2021

Scheme to increase white folks, and decrease POC.

So, as Bill Oreilly said, so many years ago, white people are not reproducing fast enough.

What to do? Make life so harsh, for POC in red states, that they SELF DEPORT, to blue states.

Then, you make abortion per state, and since you chased off the POC, they are free to abort. While all the white girls, must
give birth.

This is the plan, that I noticed years ago. I predicted that they would go for per state abortion rights.

The general purge, will be abortion, safety net, voting rights, unionization and ability to hire choked by systemic racism and generally discriminatory enforcement of laws.

This will make white hegemony also on a per state basis. The flow of folks fleeing red states will also overburden the blue states.

This overburdening of blue states, they will use, to undercut blue states in employment. This could easily change the flow of federal dollars from blue to red states.

They will offer incentives to flee blue states, and promise docile work force.

This is a civil war, in every sense but the shooting.

The packed supreme court was necessary as the first step, to allow the hollowing out of rights on a state by state basis.

I can imagine they will also try to starve and gouge blue states, for meat, produce and sundries.

This has been clear as a bell for quite some time.

No, I dont have all the answers of how to fight it. Perhaps others might.

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Scheme to increase white folks, and decrease POC. (Original Post) BlueBlud Dec 2021 OP
I know what will solve the problem. roamer65 Dec 2021 #1
So your idea is to make America richer and whiter cinematicdiversions Dec 2021 #11
More Canadian by joining Canada. roamer65 Dec 2021 #12
It is the same asthe Scottish Independence movement. cinematicdiversions Dec 2021 #13
Not true. roamer65 Dec 2021 #19
That is very true. But it still makes Scotland cinematicdiversions Dec 2021 #20
The plan is also to reward people like the Duggars. Runningdawg Dec 2021 #2
Are you referring to the Quiverfull movement? Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #3
It will backfire on them, however. radius777 Dec 2021 #4
Your analysis is quite right. Red states will end up inhabited by poorly schooled people only... machoneman Dec 2021 #10
If states only received what they put in, then this would no longer be marie999 Dec 2021 #15
Don't forget the Quiverfull movement TrogL Dec 2021 #5
The Quiverfull lunatics are literally are trying to build a RW 'army of god' Celerity Dec 2021 #9
It won't work. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #6
Strawman modrepub Dec 2021 #7
No, THey have mostly gone after women of color on laws that restrict/ban abortion JI7 Dec 2021 #8
+1 betsuni Dec 2021 #21
Not sure your employment scenario holds up. California, an already notably blue state, is also... Hekate Dec 2021 #14
Then what I would do is create tech hubs etc, just like Austin, in Texas. BlueBlud Dec 2021 #17
"Interesting" is a polite word to describe your theory. PTWB Dec 2021 #16
ALLLL of the pieces seem to fit. BlueBlud Dec 2021 #18
 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
11. So your idea is to make America richer and whiter
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:57 AM
Dec 2021

by discarding the poor states with large minority populations like Mississippi and Alabama.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
13. It is the same asthe Scottish Independence movement.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 02:18 PM
Dec 2021

Break away from England and become more liberal and a lot less diversified by also letting go of almost all the BIPOCs.

roamer65

(36,905 posts)
19. Not true.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:09 PM
Dec 2021

An independent Scotland would be an EU member.

It would be in the Schengen zone, which means open to immigration from the rest of the EU.

There is more anti-immigrant sentiment in England. That showed in the Brexit vote. Scotland soundly rejected Brexit, the English did not.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
20. That is very true. But it still makes Scotland
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:32 PM
Dec 2021

Much more white and Liberal and the rest of the UK much more conservative and ethnically diverse.

Same as if we spun off most of the red states, we would be a lot more white, wealthy, and liberal than before. (Scotland would on the other hand be broke within three years...)

Runningdawg

(4,560 posts)
2. The plan is also to reward people like the Duggars.
Sat Dec 25, 2021, 10:40 PM
Dec 2021

The family across the street were just honored by their church for having their 4th child. One of my best friends who left the cult 10 years ago, but her daughter went back, is about to become a grandmother for the 5th time. Both women are under 30. They have at least another good decade left.
The plan is the same as it was when I turned 16 in the cult. Marry them young, breed them immediately. Once they have children, they won't ever leave.

Jedi Guy

(3,308 posts)
3. Are you referring to the Quiverfull movement?
Sat Dec 25, 2021, 10:45 PM
Dec 2021

Every time I read about those folks, all I can think to myself is, "It's a vagina, folks, not a clown car." I feel so bad for these women who are essentially forced to get pregnant over and over. Just had a kid? Great, the chamber is empty, let's load another one in there! What's that, Susie? You're tired of being constantly pregnant and don't want to do it anymore? Well, bless your heart. Just pray about it!

Then again, they're there by choice, theoretically at least. Though as a practical matter (and as you noted), once the kids are in the mix, they're stuck. Just a really terrible situation overall.

radius777

(3,767 posts)
4. It will backfire on them, however.
Sat Dec 25, 2021, 10:51 PM
Dec 2021

Many of the smart young white women will not want to live in some anti-choice dictatorship and will flee to blue states. Overall you'll have the more ambitious whites (women and men) leaving, along with PoC. All of which means the blue states will get smarter and stronger - while the red states will be filled with fundies, incels and other losers.

Remember that Hillary and Biden won the counties that account for 70% of GDP... this imbalance will only increase.

If the red states attempt to gouge us we'll just get more of our food/produce etc from Canada and Mexico.

machoneman

(4,118 posts)
10. Your analysis is quite right. Red states will end up inhabited by poorly schooled people only...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:45 AM
Dec 2021

...able to get low pay, dead-end jobs. That clown Madison Cawthorn (sp?) just stated that R's should not go to college (or drop out now) and be home schooled as opposed to even taxpayer funded public elementary and high schools. Further, companies in those states that need tech savvy employees will leave for blue states (or blue areas in red states) as hey, every aspect of modern business has become more technical and reliant on computers, the 'Net, automation, etc.

What though I would like to see is this: A Federal law, based on the Fairness Doctrine, that mandates that each state can only receive Federal dollars equal to how much they put into the Federal coffers. Currently, as many here know, almost all Red states receive far more more back from the Federal government than they put in, meaning blue states heavily subsidize poor Red states by a wide margin. Certain cut-outs like road building, airport infrastructure, etc. could be part of the bill to ensure access to and through these states. See this link for proof:

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

Doing so would radically alter the power of Red-dominated legislatures who historically and vocally oppose Federal spending yet greedily and quietly accept all sorts of Federal monies. Putting maximum 'hurt' on these entities, be they local or state governments, contractors and the like, is the goal.

Hey, isn't it fair they should live by their own mantra? Only spend what you bring in? I say it merely equality under this new law.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
15. If states only received what they put in, then this would no longer be
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 03:26 PM
Dec 2021

Democratic Constitutional Republic. The "maximum hurt" would not be put on the local or state governments but on the poor people. This country would stop trying to be what it is supposed to stand for.

Celerity

(46,154 posts)
9. The Quiverfull lunatics are literally are trying to build a RW 'army of god'
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:35 AM
Dec 2021

Weaponising the womb against anything the christofascists hate.

Breeding up potential warriors at dog and cat litter levels, then brainwashing them like crazy to become the traitors of tomorrow.

http://aboverubies.org/index.php/2013-11-12-17-55-51/english-language/motherhood/321-motherhood-protect-your-womb

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,161 posts)
6. It won't work.
Sat Dec 25, 2021, 11:05 PM
Dec 2021

Yeah, there will be a small number of women who will be stuck in a cult of some kind and have baby after baby, but overall they aren't upping the birth rate.

Just Google "birth rates" or "fertility rates" and you'll see that everywhere on the planet, birth and fertility rates are dropping. And dropping. The rare woman who has 17 babies does not offset the 300 who have only one or two.

modrepub

(3,564 posts)
7. Strawman
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:12 AM
Dec 2021

There are too many things that would go wrong with this. Not to mention the current birthrate for "white" folks is probably near replacement or below. That said, college educated women tend to have fewer children anyway. So by your thinking, the "liberal" population will naturally shrink.

The primary flaw here is assuming that children will be carbon copies of their parents. Sometimes they are but its more likely they may resemble parts of their parents. Think of all the social movements that young folks have started as rebellions agains their parents or parents' generation. I think there are a lot of folks who expect their progeny to carry on in the same manner they did as if nothing changes. We all know, but seem to rarely accept, that change is inevitable.

I also think most folks have strong BS detectors. Hell, even the Soviets knew communism was a crappy system. If not, why did so many defect to the West whenever the opportunity presented itself? Unless you can practice some form of extreme mind control (North Korea for example), most people will know when you're pulling the wool over their eyes.

Not that folks won't stop trying. I think a lot of the CRT crap is a reaction to parents who have suddenly realized their kids spend a lot of time (in school) being taught things counter to their narrative. Of course these are the same people who treat teachers and their school districts as some type of glorified day care system. But if you don't want to be "lazy", how else are you supposed to work and have kids at the same time?!? The jokes on them.

Encourage your kids and all kids to read books. That's probably the best parental advice I can offer to counter the dark souls that populate this globe.

JI7

(90,111 posts)
8. No, THey have mostly gone after women of color on laws that restrict/ban abortion
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:21 AM
Dec 2021

They are trying to ban abortion at the national level also . It's about misogyny and making women lower class citizens .

Also many conservatives themselves get abortions .

Hekate

(93,646 posts)
14. Not sure your employment scenario holds up. California, an already notably blue state, is also...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 03:26 PM
Dec 2021

… what is known as a donor state, which means we export more in federal taxes than we ever get back. Yet we are still one of the world’s greatest economies.

“This overburdening of blue states, they will use, to undercut blue states in employment. This could easily change the flow of federal dollars from blue to red states.”

What will happen while the right-wingers are creating Gilead is that the sum total of human misery in their states will rise exponentially — not that they care. And there will be companies that are talent-driven that will certainly not want to relocate to red states when they realize their best employees are not going to go with them.

Blue states really are economic engines, on the whole. And their cities are diverse. I have a feeling that any person, regardless of color, who seeks a better life here will find a niche. Just two examples: California took the Okies, destitute at the time, and in a generation they were doing quite well. We have a very long relationship with Mexicans, despite problems, and despite political problems immigrants have contributed enormously to the state. In addition, as far as the permanent long-time Latino population goes, there are names and families that can be traced back centuries on this side of the border.

Under your scenario, blue states will continue to grow, and red states will wither.

 

BlueBlud

(57 posts)
18. ALLLL of the pieces seem to fit.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 05:33 PM
Dec 2021

Every aspect, to include threats of secession. Nanny Nannying every time a business leaves calif. They even seem to be heading towards making birth control hard to get. Or restricted.

What used to be a premature premonition, is now pretty solid.

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