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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:06 AM Dec 2021

CBC*: Crisis response teams achieve 70% reduction in people arrested due to Mental Health

*Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/crisis-response-teams-achieve-70-reduction-in-people-taken-into-custody-under-mental-health-act-1.6296427

Original headline: 'Crisis response teams achieve 70% reduction in people taken into custody under Mental Health Act'

>Mobile units respond to more than 2,700 calls annually in Hamilton

Const. Scott Woods and mental health worker Sarah Burtenshaw check in on an elderly woman who believes neighbours are spraying a substance into her apartment. This is not the first time she's called 911.

Woods and Burtenshaw are members of Hamilton's mobile crisis rapid response team. The program pairs a police officer with a mental health worker to answer 911 calls involving people in mental health crises.

In the eight years since the program launched in Hamilton, there has been a marked reduction in taking people in mental health crisis into custody.<

There's much more text and photos at the link. I've read about persons advocating for
this type of program here in the U.S. and I think that's a very good idea.

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CBC*: Crisis response teams achieve 70% reduction in people arrested due to Mental Health (Original Post) abqtommy Dec 2021 OP
It works. It should be used everywhere. Thanks for posting. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #1
Well done, Canada Roy Rolling Dec 2021 #2
+ 1 pazzyanne Dec 2021 #4
By your logic, there is no behavioral organ, so there are no behavioral disorders Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #7
Kinda like arguing over what is an casualty weapon The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #15
A program to actually help people, are you crazy? Ligyron Dec 2021 #3
Sad, but true. nt pazzyanne Dec 2021 #5
Actually, there are lots of programs like this in America, Hortensis Dec 2021 #8
Thanks. Local is good but there's lots of places here in the U.S. that just don't care. nt abqtommy Dec 2021 #9
:) Nonsense. Seriously! Each of us has state, county and municipal Hortensis Dec 2021 #11
Bingo The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #13
Good job, Canada! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #6
In the USA, jails are the multigraincracker Dec 2021 #10
Almost all are local, though, so vary tremendously. Hortensis Dec 2021 #12
Crap. In Canada, even the police are nice. 70sEraVet Dec 2021 #14
This is part of what police reform looks like. lark Dec 2021 #16
It's hard to implement something like that here in the good ol' USA because..... jaxexpat Dec 2021 #17

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
2. Well done, Canada
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:28 AM
Dec 2021

Separating criminals from those who can’t identify what a law is. There’s a huge difference.

And on a personal soapbox, the term mental illness needs to go. There is no mental organ in a human body, how can it be ill?

The stigma of brain disease needs to end, starting with a change of name.

It’s a brain disease and behavioral disorder BDBD or BD2.

Medical science can treat patients with a brain disease, a mental illness not so much.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
7. By your logic, there is no behavioral organ, so there are no behavioral disorders
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:46 AM
Dec 2021

You are being doctrinaire and seem to want to bend reality to your mental structure.

Mental illness can be created by stress, bad parenting, abuse, and other horrific circumstances without any underlying brain disease.

Mental illness can be successfully treated by non-invasive and non-pharmacological treatments when there is no underlying brain disease. "Can be", not "will be" or "is being" and definitely not always successfully, because mental illness is more complex than organic diseases.

Our state of mind is a meta-organ and prone to disease the same way our social fabric is a meta-body and prone to disease like the authoritarianism virus.

Non-organic mental illness is like buggy software.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
3. A program to actually help people, are you crazy?
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:52 AM
Dec 2021

Here in America, the for-profit prison business needs as many inmates as possible. Besides, who else are we gonna frame for unsolved murders?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Actually, there are lots of programs like this in America,
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:58 AM
Dec 2021

as well as changes of law and application to existing ways.

This is STATE AND LOCAL governments, not federal.

People have to know that, know who are advocating for good in their part of America, and vote smart in order to be part of the solution.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. :) Nonsense. Seriously! Each of us has state, county and municipal
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:23 AM
Dec 2021

authorities to care about. In every single one of them -- THOUSANDS OF THESE GOVERNMENTS -- there are people busy caring.

Here in GA, there are 159 counties and 535 incorporated municipalities, and -- to put it mildly -- they're not all the same. In FL, we live near a county line in winter, and in one direction a decent tax base and conservative progressive government created a special jurisdiction to respond to non-criminal 911 calls, while the other direction's more rural and its tax base doesn't allow that.

What's been happening in the right direction in yours? Who've been making it happen?

multigraincracker

(32,683 posts)
10. In the USA, jails are the
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:22 AM
Dec 2021

Mental institutions. Very poor mental institutions. All the funding has been stolen to pay for tax breaks for the rich.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Almost all are local, though, so vary tremendously.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:27 AM
Dec 2021

Some places do much better, and worse, than others. How's it going where you're responsible?

70sEraVet

(3,503 posts)
14. Crap. In Canada, even the police are nice.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:40 AM
Dec 2021

Really, great job, Canada! Maybe we try doing what they're doing?
Thanks for the article.

lark

(23,102 posts)
16. This is part of what police reform looks like.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:40 AM
Dec 2021

How many people have been killed for a mental health issue that were no threat to anyone except themselves - how many? It happenned where I used to work, crazy homeless woman who didn't respond to the cops commands was killed for zero reason. So shameful and such a senseless tragedy that would have not happened if trained social workers were there instead of kill first cops.

jaxexpat

(6,831 posts)
17. It's hard to implement something like that here in the good ol' USA because.....
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:56 AM
Dec 2021

such programs eliminate the punishment/retribution aspect of law enforcement. I mean, there's no perverse carnal gratification in that. It does nothing to assuage the yearning for revenge harbored within the psyche of so many who cloak their personality disorders under the conservative brand. They subsist, the progeny of American society's "birthright". Their whole life's mission is to appease their "god given" self-destructive infatuations, addicted to fake, secondhand, fantasy violence and financed by obsessive, even Pavlovian, gratification of every commercial whim. People so self-centered, devoid of honesty and alienated from thoughtful self-examination, cannot grasp, much less assess, metrics of "mental health", their own or anyone else's.

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