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Jilly_in_VA

(9,979 posts)
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 04:37 PM Dec 2021

From respair to cacklefart - the joy of reclaiming long-lost positive words

“Dwell on the beauty of life. Watch the stars, and see yourself running with them”: words of positivity from the Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius. But how many of us really dwell on the upside of life, as opposed to its mad, bad, seamy side? It’s unsurprising that we have lost some of our joie de vivre in the past few years – finding sparkle amid the grey has become distinctly difficult. But a riffle through a historical dictionary suggests that it’s always been this way, and at heart we’ve long been a pessimistic lot. Linguistically, as in life, our glass is usually half-empty.

Usually – but not always. In recent times I’ve made it a mission to highlight a category of English that linguists fondly call “orphaned negatives”. These are the words that inexplicably lost their mojo at some point in the past, becoming a sorry crew of adjectives that includes unkempt, unruly, disgruntled, unwieldy and inept. Yet previous generations had the potential to be kempt, ruly, wieldy, ept and – most recently thanks to PG Wodehouse – gruntled. Some were even full of ruth (compassion), feck (initiative) and gorm (due care and attention). Now is surely the time to reunite these long-lost couples. It may not work for everything – there is no entry (yet) for “shevelled” or “combobulated”, but Mitchell airport in Milwaukee has gloriously provided its passengers with a “recombobulation area” in which to release some of the tension of air travel.

It’s not just these negatives that have been lost. The German schadenfreude – pleasure in the misfortunes of others – is now all too familiar. But how many of us know its near opposite in English, “confelicity”, which is joy in another person’s happiness? As we exchange hatred on our screens, how about sharing some “fellowfeeling”, 16th-century speak for kindness and compassion?

As always, the dictionary tells its own story. It offers hundreds of words for melancholy, from the “black dog” and “blue devils” to the cuddlier but equally dispiriting “mubble-fubbles”. Much the same goes for irritability – we can be curmudgeonly, mumpish, crumpsy, nettlish, porcupinal and spleenical as well as just plain narky or tetchy. And insults abound – anyone looking to criticise covertly may well enjoy “ultracrepidarian” or “cacafuego” (one who loves to pass comment on subjects they know nothing about and a blustering braggart – literally a “fire-shitter” – respectively). Distinctly lacking are synonyms for love, happiness and kindness.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/26/respair-cacklefart-positive-words-english-language

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From respair to cacklefart - the joy of reclaiming long-lost positive words (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Dec 2021 OP
Growing fond of this subject... but pray tell... what does cackle fart mean? msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #1
The sound a hen makes when she lays an egg? Bayard Dec 2021 #2
I can just hear the lyrics hee hee msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #3
Here's what I found MLAA Dec 2021 #5
cackling fart, tallywags, Nimgimmer, maggot boiler, Fart Catcher, Duck Fucker omg priceless! msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #7
Respair is the complement of dispair. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2021 #8
The dictionary can be a fun read KT2000 Dec 2021 #4
I grew up Jilly_in_VA Dec 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #9

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
1. Growing fond of this subject... but pray tell... what does cackle fart mean?
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 04:46 PM
Dec 2021

oh and respair?


thanks for the topic!






MLAA

(17,295 posts)
5. Here's what I found
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 04:55 PM
Dec 2021

Captain Francis Grose, antiquarian, some-time soldier and all-round roisterer used his knowledge of lowlife to compile a dictionary of eighteenth-century slang. Assisted by Tom Cocking, Grose frequented and enjoyed the fleshpots of London, eating, drinking and taking notes of what was said and by whom. The fruits of this devoted study appeared only three decades after Dr Johnson’s famous dictionary but, unlike that great work, documented the unofficial, earthy and bawdy language spoken by the workers of the era.

Grose was so fat – a gundiguts, according to his own dictionary – that his assistant, Tom, had to strap him into bed each night to make sure he didn’t roll out. But he was an apparently amiable man who was able to move easily in different social circles, putting his inquiring mind to good use wherever he went and with whoever he met. His encounters included one with the Scots poet Robert Burns, who contributed prose and poetry to one of Grose’s many antiquarian works on castles and other ancient buildings.

Not only does A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue (1785) present a vast number of raffish and often amusing words and phrases, but it also gives some idea of those who spoke them. Many of these were criminals who, as in earlier and later periods, found considerable use for linguistic obfuscation. Others were those who followed more or less respectable trades and occupations. Grose’s dictionary is crammed with the speech of thieves, beggars, prostitutes, soldiers, sailors, gamblers, cockfighters, horse traders and a range of other dodgy operators.

Grose also includes terms related to trades, professions and callings, including:

Draper, an ale-housekeeper;

Duck fucker man in charge of poultry aboard a war ship

Fart catcher – a valet

Finger post – parson

Knight of the rainbow – a footman, from the gaudery of his apparel

A maggot-boiler was a tallow merchant

Monks and friars, printers’ terms describing blotted or dark printed sheets and faint sheets, respectively

Nimgimmer a doctor, especially one able to treat venereal diseases

Pontius Pilate a pawnbroker

The dictionary includes multitudinous names for different kinds of alcohol, especially gin and is also good on insults, including Captain queernabs, a shabby ill-dressed fellow; Dicked in the nob meaning silly, crazed; a dog booby is an awkward lout and Just-ass was a punning name for a justice [judge], an official who many of Grose’s speakers often encountered.

A few of the words and terms immortalised by Grose and Cocking are still in use today, including screw, to copulate; bum fodder for toilet paper and to kick the bucket, meaning to die, which Captain Francis Grose did in 1791. His legacy is a magnificent compendium of everyday talk that people used as they went about their business, whether that was respectable or otherwise.

Oh, and a cackling fart is an egg and tallywags are testicles.

Enjoy more online at https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/a-classical-dictionary-of-the-vulgar-tongue-1788

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
7. cackling fart, tallywags, Nimgimmer, maggot boiler, Fart Catcher, Duck Fucker omg priceless!
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:36 PM
Dec 2021

just to name a few. but cackling fart is an egg. I can't to use this one.



I won't be able to listen to the songs of Robert Burns the same way (what I used to just let pass by me) anymore.

Hilarious.

Once again



KT2000

(20,581 posts)
4. The dictionary can be a fun read
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 04:53 PM
Dec 2021

and I like to imagine the conversations where people actually used some of those words in all seriousness.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,979 posts)
6. I grew up
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 06:58 PM
Dec 2021

in a family fond of words, wordplay, language, dictionaries, etc. Punning was an art form. Is it any wonder that my first major in college was linguistics? At that time I could not figure out what to do with it. Years later, having become a nurse more or less because I was out of options, I figured it out....but it's too late now.

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