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raccoon

(31,111 posts)
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:24 PM Dec 2021

I think any passenger who starts a fight on an airplane

Should be placed on the no-fly list forever and ever amen. I can’t understand why the Department of Transportation isn’t doing that.

These morans (sic) are a clear and present danger to EVERYONE on the plane, as sure as any of the 9/11 hijackers were.

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I think any passenger who starts a fight on an airplane (Original Post) raccoon Dec 2021 OP
It will escalate, count on that. 634-5789 Dec 2021 #1
My BIL left a trade conference and coworker placed a finger nail clipper in his laptop case. TheBlackAdder Dec 2021 #22
Totally agree. not doing so rewards the behavior. NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #2
Throw them out? TreasonousBastard Dec 2021 #3
After a fair trial onboard. Effete Snob Dec 2021 #7
i am doumbfounded by this as well......... Takket Dec 2021 #4
Same here Rebl2 Dec 2021 #30
There's Already A Law ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #5
And anybody who shoots the video in vertical format... Effete Snob Dec 2021 #6
Death to vertical filming. mikeysnot Dec 2021 #9
yes n/t Timewas Dec 2021 #12
I'm with you on that! piddyprints Dec 2021 #19
I'd punish the (moving) blurry borders around the vertical video, not the video itself. Ms. Toad Dec 2021 #20
Those gas pumps are tough for schizophrenics Effete Snob Dec 2021 #25
I guess I'm not sure that's much different than a lot of other inanimate objects Ms. Toad Dec 2021 #26
Wow Effete Snob Dec 2021 #27
Just say no to talking gas station pumps. Captain Zero Dec 2021 #28
Yup Effete Snob Dec 2021 #32
Some airlines and their pilots have not laid down the law. Tetrachloride Dec 2021 #8
A few lawsuits would probably fix that. SergeStorms Dec 2021 #29
Yup with a big fat fine. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #10
15 years at least but yes forever is preferable. JI7 Dec 2021 #11
I would like to see proof of vaccination or a recent negative covid test to get on a plane. OMGWTF Dec 2021 #13
Amen to this! ShazzieB Dec 2021 #21
They scream about THEIR freedom, BidenRocks Dec 2021 #14
there are rules . AllaN01Bear Dec 2021 #15
That's useful info. mahina Dec 2021 #17
Flying Is A Privilege DanieRains Dec 2021 #16
If they are white... Xolodno Dec 2021 #18
I haven't been on a plane since 1992, and I would be scared to death to get on one now. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #23
The searches are something I am glad of. Virus is the core issue. Tetrachloride Dec 2021 #31
The assholes get news but are still rare. I fly 6 times a year & never seen one oldsoftie Dec 2021 #33
And bill them for any extra expenses such as returning to the gate, delays, diverting a flight, sky keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #24
Now THAT would be a helluva bill! Good idea. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #34

TheBlackAdder

(28,203 posts)
22. My BIL left a trade conference and coworker placed a finger nail clipper in his laptop case.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:16 PM
Dec 2021

.

He was flagged in security and for 5 years had to undergo elevated searches before each flight.

He was flying nearly every week or two and had to account for an extra 20 minutes in TSA.

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NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
2. Totally agree. not doing so rewards the behavior.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:29 PM
Dec 2021

Seeing that lots in recent years...no one paying for huge crimes.

Takket

(21,573 posts)
4. i am doumbfounded by this as well.........
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:33 PM
Dec 2021

i always assumed interfering with a flight and it's crew was an automatic ticket to the no fly list. especially since the strengthening of security after 9/11. i cannot believe you can interfere with a flight and still be allowed to fly.

ProfessorGAC

(65,054 posts)
5. There's Already A Law
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:34 PM
Dec 2021

It can be a FELONY to disrupt flight operations, and it definitely is one if a crew member is assaulted.
It's no-fly plus prosecution, IMO. And, the no-fly sticks no matter the trial outcome.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
6. And anybody who shoots the video in vertical format...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:34 PM
Dec 2021

…instead of landscape mode, should get six months in prison.

piddyprints

(14,643 posts)
19. I'm with you on that!
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:07 PM
Dec 2021

Keith Olbermann looks like he’s been stuffed in a closet. I can’t watch anymore. And the fuzzy “filler” on each side is very distracting. Whose brain fart was that, anyway?

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
20. I'd punish the (moving) blurry borders around the vertical video, not the video itself.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:12 PM
Dec 2021

The video is annoying but harmless.

The moving blurry border frame triggers vertigo. As do those obnoxious moving pictures on facebook, or advertising videos on gas station pumps.

This former vertigo sufferer says 6 months is not enough time in prison.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
25. Those gas pumps are tough for schizophrenics
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:45 PM
Dec 2021

Building a world where inanimate objects start talking to people is not a good idea. It freaks me out when I’m pumping gas and the pump starts up with “Hey, do you want a cup of coffee?” or some other nonsense.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
26. I guess I'm not sure that's much different than a lot of other inanimate objects
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:52 PM
Dec 2021

that talk to people. But I'm not schizophrenic, so can't speak directly to it.

My vertigo is mostly gone - but still occasionally gets triggered.

Speedway is the worst. Most stop the moving pictures when you are required to interact with the screen. Speedway doesn't. I often have to grab whatever papers I have in the car to use block most of the screen just to be abe to press the correct buttons without ending up on the ground. I can usualy avert my gaze quickly enough for the stupid videos and moving pictures.

But every time a new variation comes up I have to figure out how to quickly recognize and scroll past it.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
32. Yup
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:24 PM
Dec 2021

There’s one station nearby which I dread, because it just creeps me out.

Reminds me of my old office job where I had to go up 24 floors. One day they installed screens in them and I couldn’t imagine why. Showing captive people commercials should also be a felony.

Tetrachloride

(7,846 posts)
8. Some airlines and their pilots have not laid down the law.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 07:38 PM
Dec 2021

It appears than US based airlines have more incidents than other airlines.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
29. A few lawsuits would probably fix that.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:02 PM
Dec 2021

Passengers should start suing the airlines for not taking a tougher stand with these animals.

If there's ever a repeat offender who wasn't punished the first time, the passengers could end up owning that airline.

BidenRocks

(827 posts)
14. They scream about THEIR freedom,
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:35 PM
Dec 2021

Meanwhile my desire to have a glass of wine and a nap is infringed.
Freedom is NOT one way!
Ten years in prison. Nip this (too late) in the bud!

ShazzieB

(16,407 posts)
23. I haven't been on a plane since 1992, and I would be scared to death to get on one now.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:24 PM
Dec 2021

I was already extremely leery about the post-9/11 security rules (searches, what you can bring on board, etc.), and the way the seats have gotten tinier and tinier. All the recent horror stories about maskholes have just about pushed me over the edge into being terrified of the whole thing.

I'm not saying I absolutely wouldn't fly if the opportunity presented itself, but if it happens, I'll be a nervous wreck. The irony is, I'm not afraid of flying, per se, just all the stuff that seems to go along with it these days.

Tetrachloride

(7,846 posts)
31. The searches are something I am glad of. Virus is the core issue.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:14 PM
Dec 2021

I also was 22 years since I last flew.

Just clothes, phone , phone charger , a paper back book, a mini bottle of soapy water and travel documents packet are what i have in carry on.

Nothing dramatic and security agents get me thru pretty quick.

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
33. The assholes get news but are still rare. I fly 6 times a year & never seen one
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:29 PM
Dec 2021

Now 6 times a year is NOTHING compared to many, but I'm just saying you'd have no reason to be a nervous wreck. Fly out of a small airport & security is only minutes.
There are THOUSANDS of flights every day.
And yes, each of these idiots should be banned, fined and maybe even jailed

keithbvadu2

(36,815 posts)
24. And bill them for any extra expenses such as returning to the gate, delays, diverting a flight, sky
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:42 PM
Dec 2021

And bill them for any extra expenses such as returning to the gate, delays, diverting a flight, sky marshall wages, police wages/expenses... even expenses for the other passengers being delayed.

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