Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
57 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
NASA hires 24 theologians: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Dec 2021 OP
I've been half-joking about a giant holographic Jesus Lars39 Dec 2021 #1
The Centauri have such technology... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #3
heh...add some surround sound and we're in business Lars39 Dec 2021 #4
Heh! electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #6
Project Blue Beam conspiracy theory suggests NASA has secret plans to create new world order Celerity Dec 2021 #31
Good grief Lars39 Dec 2021 #53
Towing Jehovah! JanMichael Dec 2021 #2
Reminds me of the movie CONTACT FalloutShelter Dec 2021 #5
One of my favorite movies electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #8
Do yourself a big favour canetoad Dec 2021 #16
I might have read it decades ago. When I get my library e-book app back I'll check for it. 👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #37
That's true...7/8 of the book is terrific PCIntern Dec 2021 #51
My first thought also. Bristlecone Dec 2021 #10
Wasn't this pretty much covered in CONTACT ? dweller Dec 2021 #7
That's partly true... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #9
It's a daily mail article ... dweller Dec 2021 #11
Oh, right... Forgot about that. electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #54
"Your God is too small!" Xolodno Dec 2021 #12
Oh that's interesting. StarryNite Dec 2021 #13
possibly, adding this to the UFO talk the past few years and its interesting Amishman Dec 2021 #47
talk... myohmy2 Dec 2021 #14
So if theologians assessment is that... Captain Zero Dec 2021 #15
I once interviewed a NASA official about just such preparations mainer Dec 2021 #17
If that's the big problem, many of the people they'd most have to talk to... Silent3 Dec 2021 #20
Either way is scary. Delmette2.0 Dec 2021 #18
I guess that new Hubble Space Telescope didn't waste any time. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2021 #19
James Webb Space Telescope Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #29
Lol. Yeah that too. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2021 #30
As long as they can overcome covid; bring on our alien overlords. lindysalsagal Dec 2021 #21
I guess all that "creation" bullshit is about to be exposed, and these theologians Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #22
Finding life off of earth doesn't prove or disprove the existence of a "higher power" Renew Deal Dec 2021 #26
Agreed, but it raises thousands of questions and blows holes in a lot of dogma. Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #28
there is no doubt it would be problematic. Renew Deal Dec 2021 #32
Agreed. It's mostly about the money Buckeyeblue Dec 2021 #39
Nah, it won't matter to believers misanthrope Dec 2021 #34
Exactly. And what happened to church and state separation? Insidious crap. BSdetect Dec 2021 #42
lol Renew Deal Dec 2021 #23
We'll make great pets. NightWatcher Dec 2021 #24
I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords! Poiuyt Dec 2021 #25
You hope. Chellee Dec 2021 #36
There could be life out there, but it may be in a form that we don't recognize. Poiuyt Dec 2021 #27
Klaatu Barada Nikto... myohmy2 Dec 2021 #35
To Serve Man Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #41
One of the best episodes ever! Poiuyt Dec 2021 #49
Do aliens get vaccinated before they make contact? milestogo Dec 2021 #33
WTF? Is NASA planning on Converting Alien Savages? msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #38
Are theologians not just predisposed to certain beliefs? BSdetect Dec 2021 #40
Fucking waste of money, edhopper Dec 2021 #43
Just Said The Same Thing; They Need Social Scientists Beetwasher. Dec 2021 #46
"UFOs are real and there are multiple alien civilizations"... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #44
Uhhh, I Wouldn't Hire Theologians, I'd Hire Social Scientists and Experts in Group Psychosocial Beetwasher. Dec 2021 #45
Yeah I often claim the people at NASA are stupid. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #55
My prediction: the world will do just fine, post-religion. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2021 #48
From the Twitter thread; A HERETIC I AM Dec 2021 #50
LOL!! peggysue2 Dec 2021 #52
There is nothing in NASA's mandate for them to have any concern as to how the world reacts to RB TexLa Dec 2021 #56
Ah, yes - human irrationality. Oneironaut Dec 2021 #57

Lars39

(26,540 posts)
1. I've been half-joking about a giant holographic Jesus
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:04 PM
Dec 2021

coming down from the sky. Maybe this is the year.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
3. The Centauri have such technology...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:09 PM
Dec 2021

(Babylon 5 SF tv series) 😁👍

Their Emporer sometimes makes announcements from up in the sky

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
16. Do yourself a big favour
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:00 PM
Dec 2021

Try to grab a copy of Carl Sagan's book. Leaves the movie for dead - and I loved the movie.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
37. I might have read it decades ago. When I get my library e-book app back I'll check for it. 👍
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 03:53 AM
Dec 2021

PCIntern

(28,363 posts)
51. That's true...7/8 of the book is terrific
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:04 PM
Dec 2021

If I recall correctly, he was very sick and his wife finished the book with some of her own issues thrown in. Generally first-class SF however…

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
9. That's partly true...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:30 PM
Dec 2021

SPOILERS
.
.
.
.
.
They truly got technology from another civilization, but because the nature of her journey which had no visible evidence to the public after the hearings so it didn't go well for her.
Remember one of the President's top aides wanted to know why they had oh, say, 23 Hours of static on the recording machine which they kept secret.

dweller

(28,408 posts)
11. It's a daily mail article ...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:40 PM
Dec 2021

but I was thinking about the fanatic that spoiled the first orb drop … and I have to wonder about Joel osteen’s input eventually …

it will not end well

✌🏻

Xolodno

(7,349 posts)
12. "Your God is too small!"
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 08:46 PM
Dec 2021

We often define God in our own terms and into a small box. And the notion that exceeds your limitations, gets called heresy.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
47. possibly, adding this to the UFO talk the past few years and its interesting
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 11:11 AM
Dec 2021
"What is true, and I'm actually being serious here, is that there are, there's footage and records of objects in the skies, that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is."


President Obama's words last year.

Add the two together and I sit up and take notice

myohmy2

(3,721 posts)
14. talk...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:00 PM
Dec 2021

...about a waste of taxpayer dollars...

...money for this but not for childcare or senior dental care?

...wasn't there suppose to be a separation of church and state?

...I'm a believer but this leaves me in disbelief...

...get to Mars before the Chinese and stop fucking around...

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
15. So if theologians assessment is that...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:55 PM
Dec 2021

We can't handle the truth, will we not be told the truth?

Put the information with the Kennedy assassinations files, we.never seem to be allowed to see that. Either.

mainer

(12,554 posts)
17. I once interviewed a NASA official about just such preparations
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:13 PM
Dec 2021

The question was, how would they handle public response to announcement of alien life? They actually are concerned about religious terrorism by outraged Christians having their human-centric views challenged.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
20. If that's the big problem, many of the people they'd most have to talk to...
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 11:15 PM
Dec 2021

...would refuse to participate.

One could only hope that the more open-minded theologians, who will participate, have some greater insight into their less open-minded colleagues than anyone else would. That may or may not be the case.

Delmette2.0

(4,503 posts)
18. Either way is scary.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 11:09 PM
Dec 2021

If there is other intelligent life out there, we are the dumb ones and not ready for their technology.

If there is not other intelligent life out there, we are the intelligent ones and we are in deep trouble.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
22. I guess all that "creation" bullshit is about to be exposed, and these theologians
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 11:58 PM
Dec 2021

have been hired to spin the story in order soften the blow to a whole lotta fragile minds and egos.

Renew Deal

(85,144 posts)
26. Finding life off of earth doesn't prove or disprove the existence of a "higher power"
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:11 AM
Dec 2021

But it does cause problems for the major religions, especially if they claim there is "one god." At best the religions can claim that God is more complex than they ever understood, and "we" continue to learn about Him. At worst they can claim that they knew all along and couldn't tell. I doubt that many people responsible for organized religion will walk away. There's too much money involved.

Do the Scientologists claim to be right?

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
28. Agreed, but it raises thousands of questions and blows holes in a lot of dogma.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:47 AM
Dec 2021

There's a potential for things getting real interesting.
You brought up the money involved.
I see a lot of lawyers getting involved re that money.


I find this idea interesting. "At worst they can claim that they knew all along and couldn't tell."

You just know that some of them will. Then they can hang on forever.

Renew Deal

(85,144 posts)
32. there is no doubt it would be problematic.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:10 AM
Dec 2021

The question of how ordinary people react to well documented evidence of an intelligent species is interesting, particularly from the religious angle. Does it impact suicides? What about crime?

Separately, how would it impact military policy and weapons in space? Any civilization that can cross the expanse of space and get here would have far more superior technology. But transmitting messages is possible. We don't need space ships landing to have proof.

Buckeyeblue

(6,351 posts)
39. Agreed. It's mostly about the money
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 09:23 AM
Dec 2021

The Evangelicals are constantly reinventing their religion. Look how quickly refusing the vaccine because a religious objection.

When you are dealing with a myth, it's easy to revise.

Just off the top of my head, religious leaders will say these alien life forms are not humans. Or if they are some sort of human-like forms, they will need to be taught the word of god.

We will instantly try to fuck them up as badly as we are fucked up.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
34. Nah, it won't matter to believers
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:18 AM
Dec 2021

The difference between science and religion is that ethically honest scientists are willing to change their mind when proven wrong. Religious belief is the polar opposite of that.

You underestimate the human capacity for rationalization and bias.

Renew Deal

(85,144 posts)
23. lol
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:02 AM
Dec 2021

It would be chaos, particularly for the monotheistic. This is the part that will cause the most problems:

Hebrew Bible
' And God created man in His image, in the image of God He created him, male and female created He them. ... In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made He him. Male and female created He them, and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_of_God#Hebrew_Bible

Poiuyt

(18,272 posts)
27. There could be life out there, but it may be in a form that we don't recognize.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:12 AM
Dec 2021

The chance of Michael Rennie coming here is remote.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
38. WTF? Is NASA planning on Converting Alien Savages?
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 09:10 AM
Dec 2021

Spreading the word of Religious Poppy Cock to Dominate Alien Population?

Good effin Grief!!!




edhopper

(37,367 posts)
43. Fucking waste of money,
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 10:30 AM
Dec 2021

theologians. who believe in fantasy and myth, are the least qualified to understand how the world would react to anything real.
Many still believe in things science has proven to be 100% false.

Beetwasher.

(3,178 posts)
46. Just Said The Same Thing; They Need Social Scientists
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 11:05 AM
Dec 2021

And experts is group psychosocial dynamics. Those are the folks who can provide some answers on how groups will react in certain situations. The Russians have gotten quite good at it frankly, look how they are manipulating our society.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
44. "UFOs are real and there are multiple alien civilizations"...
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 10:33 AM
Dec 2021

…will be the most welcome news we get next year, if the filibuster remains unchanged.

Beetwasher.

(3,178 posts)
45. Uhhh, I Wouldn't Hire Theologians, I'd Hire Social Scientists and Experts in Group Psychosocial
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 11:03 AM
Dec 2021

Dynamics. Hiring Theologians is stupid, quite frankly. They don't even really understand (for the most part, maybe some do) WHY they believe what they believe.

peggysue2

(12,531 posts)
52. LOL!!
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:34 PM
Dec 2021

Yes, The Crucifixion might play very differently Off-World.

You made me spit my coffee across the table.

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
56. There is nothing in NASA's mandate for them to have any concern as to how the world reacts to
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 11:04 PM
Dec 2021

anything they discover or do.

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
57. Ah, yes - human irrationality.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 11:12 PM
Dec 2021

I’m kind of fearful that finding alien life will make far-right Christians either form conspiracies or kill themselves and take others with them.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»NASA hires 24 theologians...