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[Chicago1980]

1. NO

Case closed...

[brush]

2. Of course not. Our party has a deep bench of talent.

And I'm a Hillary supporter, but not for another presidential run.

[DonCoquixote]

3. great way to diss kamala

yes, in party that is built on the feet of black ladies standing in line, let's pass over the black lady (sarcasm)

[leftstreet]

4. Trump won't be the nominee

No way

He can't even get back on Twitter yet

[ForgedCrank]

6. No way.

Her name was ruined by the media, and it doesn't matter how well she could do. It's a damned shame for sure, but we don't need anymore setbacks. As much as I hate it, Hillary's time has passed.
I think Biden will likely run again (and win). It's a winning formula and we should stick with it.

[Ocelot II]

7. No. That's ridiculous.

[RockRaven]

8. No. Unless one wants TFG to become TCG (The Current Guy)...

Or DeathSantis or whoever the 'pukes choose.

Regardless of my opinions of her capabilities, her morals, her policy positions, or whether or not I prefer her to some other possible candidate... That need not be considered. The only question is: would she win?

I strongly suspect she would lose to TFG or a generic Repuke in 2024 if she were the Democratic nominee.

[carpetbagger]

9. Jon Bon Jovi

Laugh all you want, but people want a celebrity. Springsteen and Hanks are getting a bit old (as is Clinton, who would be 85 if she had two terms). Grohl is a bit younger, Katy Perry is still a little too young.

[dchill]

10. W.T.F.

[Miguelito Loveless]

11. No, but

Chief Justice Hilary Clinton has a nice ring.

[Ziggysmom]

13. Yes, Hillary on SCOTUS would be fantastic

[multigraincracker]

17. Yes. She'd make a great one

and piss off that basket of deplorable folks.

[Polybius]

21. Is Roberts gonna retire?

He's only 66.

[Miguelito Loveless]

63. Nah, demoted

Nothing in the Constitution that says the old chief can’t be replaced.

[Sympthsical]

30. Appointing a 74 year-old to the SC would be political malpractice

[Celerity]

39. Not a chance. She is far far too old now. Plus Roberts is not retiring.

[Miguelito Loveless]

64. Nothing in the Constitution

says a chief’s job is for life. A new chief can be appointed. As to age, it would be worth it just for the number of GOP heads that would explode.

[onenote]

69. A Chief's job is for life.

The office of "Chief Justice" is distinct from the office of an Associate Justice, which is why a sitting Associate Justice cannot just be elevated to the position of Chief Justice -- the sitting Associate Justice would have to go through a separate confirmation process (as was the case with Rehnquist).

The Constitution makes clear that Article III judges hold their "offices" for life -- and the Chief Justice is a separate "Office" with distinct duties under the Constitution (such as presiding over presidential impeachments).

[GoCubsGo]

54. It would have sounded great 20 or 30 years ago.

But, she just turned 74. Any Democrat who gives anyone that age--I don't care who they are, a lifetime appointment on the USSC is a fool. Until there are court reforms, Dems need to take a page from the Rethugs, and appoint them as young as possible.

[VarryOn]

12. No. Nt

[pfitz59]

14. I vote for Mayor Pete

The party needs new blood.

[Meadowoak]

15. +1

[Celerity]

44. +2 (IF Biden doesn't run, which I so hope is not the case).

[niyad]

16. Aren't you just adorable. You must have missed President Biden's remarks recently

about running again, epecially if the f'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR** runs.

And do, please, enlighten us as to your not-so-humble sense of President Biden's poor health.

[multigraincracker]

19. I'd bet money on Joe

in a mile walk/run against tfg. Winner take all.

[JohnSJ]

33. +++

[JustAnotherGen]

72. +100000

[JI7]

18. UGH , We are going to spend months and years on this type of useless stuff

Leave her alone . I think she is finally at some peace with the scumbag out of office and is focused on just enjoying her life and working on the foundation .

[Boomerproud]

60. Yes!

Even she seems to through being a punching bag.

[Poiuyt]

20. I read a couple of days ago that the most successful Democrats have been either

charismatic outsiders (like Clinton or Obama) or Southerners. Personally, I think Mayor Pete would make the best president, but I don't think he could be elected. He's not exactly a dynamo.

[Polybius]

22. If Biden doesn't run in 2024, then yes

We'll know in about a year in a half. Too soon to tell now.

[ColinC]

23. That's up to her and her family.

[palinny]

24. Michelle Obama could win, but I doubt she'd be interested

and I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to put their family through the D.C. grinder again especially in these polarizing times that Trump unleashed.

[smirkymonkey]

25. No.

I love Hilary, but no. For many reasons.

[tirebiter]

26. Biden will have a second term.

He’s already earned it.

[JohnSJ]

32. Yes he will

[tirebiter]

27. Biden will have a second term.

He’s already earned it.

[Raine]

28. NO, absolutely not!!! 👎 nt

[everyonematters]

29. Please no.

If there is an opening, she could run for the Senate and possibly become Senate Leader. She could be nominated forr the Supreme Court, but with her age, I don't think it would happen. I think Obama would make a great Chief Justice although he would have to talk his wife into it.

[BigmanPigman]

31. If Biden says he won't run that'll make him a lame duck

and nothing will be accomplished. If Biden is in decent health and wants to run then he is the next Dem POTUS candidate.

[Hekate]

34. Stop trying to make our Democratic POTUS into a lame-duck before he's 1/4 thru his term

Just stop it.

[brer cat]

40. +1

[betsuni]

43. +1

[Mad_Machine76]

58. +1

Thank you!!!!

[uponit7771]

62. +1,

[zaj]

35. I think that's all a very pragmatic evaluation of things

We have lots of talent.
We have a "deep bench".
We have a well positioned VP.



But... Your sense of the challenge and the risks are spot on. We have no other obvious unifier-type like Obama and Biden.

Hillary isn't it either, unfortunately, IMO.

Though, I bet Biden runs again, barring some health development.

[betsuni]

36. Why isn't Biden "physically up to it"? "No heir apparent"? Did the VP disappear?

Why will "the left end of the spectrum" fracture? "Likeable"?

Trump wasn't/isn't physically up to it either, the Republican primary in 2016 was large, he ran a horrible campaign and was the most "flawed candidate" in history, people said they didn't like him but voted for him anyway. He was the perfect candidate, an anti-establishment populist (who did everything the establishment wanted when it came to tax cuts) who was openly racist. That's why they voted for him.

[Celerity]

37. NO.

[Frasier Balzov]

38. Conor Lamb will be a Senator elect by the end of 2022.

He's the one who can win the presidency in 2024.

[Sugarcoated]

41. Say whaa?

It's Fetterman's race to lose.

[Frasier Balzov]

42. Fetterman will withdraw and endorse Lamb.

[Sugarcoated]

49. Where are you getting this?

Why would Fetterman withdraw?

[Celerity]

50. In the latest poll Fetterman is beating Lamb 3 to 1. Kenyatta has now passed Lamb for 2nd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_Senate_election_in_Pennsylvania





Lamb is likely too conservative to win the PA Senate Dem primary, and has almost zero chance for the Dem POTUS nomination. He voted with Trump almost 70% of the time in the 115th Congress. only barely trailing Henry Cuellar. the worst Dem in the House. Cuellar, is an actual centre right conservative, a NRA and Koch-backed, Biden-bashing (knee-capped Biden hard on immigration, which, along with the Afghan withdrawal, started Biden's downward polls move), Rethug campaigning and fundraising for (John Carter, racist climate change denialist MAGAt), anti LGBTQ, massively pro big oil and for-profit private prisons, forced birther DINO. Cuellar doesn't even have Manchin's excuse (as in WV is batshit crazy Red), as Cuellar is in a solid Blue seat, that has never, in its history, elected a Rethug. Lamb's district at the time, PA-18, since 1994 only elected one Rethug, Tim Murphy, who resigned in 2017 under a huge scandal. PA-18 is now scheduled to be done away with in 2022, due to re-districting and re-apportionment. Lamb's new district, as of 2018, PA-17, has only elected one Rethug since 1976, long timer George Gekas, who served for 20 years until he was beaten in 2002. Since then it has always elected a Dem (Tim Holden, Matt Cartwright (who moved to PA-8, and now Lamb).




lowest (for comparison)

[634-5789]

45. NO. HELL NO.

[alphafemale]

47. How many times did you touch a hot stove as a kid?

Seriously?

[Celerity]

51. lol, this made me LOL

[tenderfoot]

48. ...

[NanceGreggs]

52. NO.

As for Trump running again being "certain" - it's not even likely.

He's losing whatever grip he still holds on the GOP - along with his grip on reality. His supporters are turning on him because of his recent pro-vax remarks, and they're turning on each other.

Many of the politicians he's endorsed have lost, and his political allies (aka co-conspirators) are either cooperating with the Jan/6 committee or taking the 5th - not a good look.

He's facing countless lawsuits - and all his recent courtroom losses means he has "loser stench" all over him.

When the Jan/6 hearings go public in the new year, facts will be exposed that even his staunchest supporters will be unable to deny, or make excuses for.

As for the PTB in the GOP, even those who would love to see TFG back in the White House will understand that it's just too far a stretch to try and rehabilitate the public image of a man who's been so thoroughly shown to be corrupt.

As for Trump himself, he won't risk losing - again. He will go to his grave insisting that he really did win in 2020. If he runs again and loses - which he would - it will serve as evidence that 2020 probably wasn't a "win" either, and that's something he can't live with.

That's why he's still on the "2020 election was stolen from me" bullshit - because he's got nothing else. And even the dumbest Republican understands that that's not a winning platform.

[EYESORE 9001]

53. Feeling spanked yet?

[GoneOffShore]

55. You went where I was about to go.

[EYESORE 9001]

57. Thank you, sir

May I have another?

[GoCubsGo]

56. Please fucking stop with this shit

A) SHE SAID SHE IS NOT INTERESTED IN RUNNING AGAIN. Are you saying she is lying?
B) There is no reason to primary Biden

[LiberatedUSA]

59. No. It will be Biden/Harris for the legit win.

But I do wonder who TFG’s running mate will be. If age wasn’t a factor, he’d probably pick Rittenhouse.

[uponit7771]

61. Why is this Republican talking point allowed to exist on DU?

[Greybnk48]

65. Where are President Joe and V.P. Kamala going?

That's who I'm voting for.

[Mad_Machine76]

66. Stop with this

Please. It's bad enough that the media is basically writing off Biden's Presidency with 3 years to go. We don't need to join in with such negative speculation.

And as far as Hillary is concerned, I love her, but she's run and lost twice and getting up there in years. Let's focus on some other potential candidates in the event that this actually happens (like say Kamala?)

[Aristus]

67. Drop it.

Drop it now.

HRC is retired. She took the theft of her Presidency like a boss. But she’s done.

No more talk like this. It will just divide the Democrats and make for an emotionally fraught primary season.

I have no desire to listen to pseudo-liberal shit-stirrers bleating “ (Candidate who is not Hillary Clinton) has to EARN my vote!”

Just give it a rest. For the sake of the entire country.

[demmiblue]

68. Trashing thread. n/t

[GoneOffShore]

73. Ah, I'm leaving it up because it's funny watching the OP get what they want.

[JustAnotherGen]

70. Biden Harris 2024

Either you are with us - or against us. No more GOP talking points.

[onenote]

71. Thank you for your hit and run post.

Next time just stay away entirely.

[MineralMan]

74. Oh, For Pity's Sake!

It's not even 2022 yet, and you're already writing off Joe Biden.

Nothing to do? How about getting started on 2022 GOTV, for Jebus' sake!

WTAF?

[Budi]

75. What? NOW YOU WANT HER TO STEP BACK IN & FIX THIS SHIT!

What a stupid baiting post.
Why?


The only campaign speech She would have is just one sentence.
"I FKING TOLD YOU!"

They didn't listen then so why the hell should she bother a second time?
NOW YOU WANT HER TO STEP IN AND FIX THIS SHIT?
HRC has a fine & busy life . She ain't interested in doing shit for a bunch of asshole anarchists who don't give a fk about our Country, it's Constitution nor it's Future.
The Party of "Where's my free shit?" can find another mommy to blame their pouty bs on.

GTFOUTTA HERE.

[LiberalFighter]

76. Why should this be a question? Especially now? There are more important things.

[Budi]

77. Kooky ain't it! That's a long winded way of degrading Biden isn't it!

Why it this still here? It's embarassing for a Democratic site to display it.

"My sense is that Joe won't run again. He's doesn't seem physically up to it"

[Demsrule86]

78. NO...Joe needs to run if healthy or we lose the incumbent edge and likely the election.

I can think of no Democratic politician who could win the rustbelt right now other than Joe Biden...that has not changed. The rustbelt is essential for a Democratic presidential victory.