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Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 03:58 PM Dec 2021

'The Fuse Has Been Blown,' and the Doomsday Glacier Is Coming for Us All


I originally saw this in Rolling Stone but it has a paywall

’The Fuse Has Been Blown,’ and the Doomsday Glacier Is Coming for Us All

https://news.yahoo.com/fuse-blown-doomsday-glacier-coming-140055846.html

One thing that’s hard to grasp about the climate crisis is that big changes can happen fast. In 2019, I was aboard the Nathaniel B. Palmer, a 308-foot-long scientific research vessel, cruising in front of the Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica. One day, we were sailing in clear seas in front of the glacier. The next day, we were surrounded by icebergs the size of aircraft carriers.

As we later learned from satellite images, in a matter of 48 hours or so, a mélange of ice about 21 miles wide and 15 miles deep had cracked up and scattered into the sea.

It was a spooky moment. Thwaites Glacier is the size of Florida. It is the cork in the bottle of the entire West Antarctic ice sheet, which contains enough ice to raise sea levels by 10 feet. The mélange that disintegrated was not part of the glacier itself, but a mix of icebergs and sea ice that had cozied up next to it. Still, the idea that it could just fall apart overnight was mind-blowing.


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'The Fuse Has Been Blown,' and the Doomsday Glacier Is Coming for Us All (Original Post) Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2021 OP
Don't Look Up !!! uponit7771 Dec 2021 #1
We are so fucked. highplainsdem Dec 2021 #2
See any bronterocs? Thunderbeast Dec 2021 #3
Grin proud patriot Dec 2021 #16
Let's Go Fly Down And Get On A Cruise Ship DanieRains Dec 2021 #4
This is nothing. NullTuples Dec 2021 #5
I never did think NJCher Dec 2021 #7
Go ahead, give up. I'm not. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #13
Oh, I'm not giving up NJCher Dec 2021 #17
Then perhaps don't write short missives like you are giving up or trying to discourage others. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #22
Will that suffocate humans and animals living in the permafrost areas? Buckeyeblue Dec 2021 #8
No caraher Dec 2021 #11
I was just thinking of how it needs to be burned off at some landfills Buckeyeblue Dec 2021 #18
Landfills and oil wells burn it off *because* it is such a strong greenhouse gas. NullTuples Dec 2021 #30
Sobering dose of truth Pachamama Dec 2021 #9
The status quo crowd won't like this news. jalan48 Dec 2021 #6
I saw an episode of Vice on this general topic - the Antractic ice sheet. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2021 #10
Well, Happy New Year everyone! smirkymonkey Dec 2021 #12
I wish people wouldn't post ATTENTION-GRABBING meaningless GIF animations. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #14
Lighten up, dude. smirkymonkey Dec 2021 #15
Alert it or quit whining! Nt USALiberal Dec 2021 #19
Alert it or quit whining! Nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #21
If you know Hamilton, that one is far from meaningless. nt Susan Calvin Dec 2021 #20
Hamilton has a spasm? Why is a spasm appropriate? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #23
I am currently working on the assumption Susan Calvin Dec 2021 #29
K & R Duppers Dec 2021 #24
This graph is NOTHING like what it will BE like. Covid is just a beta test of humans' ability ancianita Dec 2021 #25
That's a map. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #26
Yes. Sorry. ancianita Dec 2021 #27
What the living will experience sooner than predicted. ancianita Dec 2021 #28
We were warned misanthrope Dec 2021 #31

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
5. This is nothing.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:42 PM
Dec 2021

Just wait until, just a couple more degrees of average temperature higher, all the permafrost & marine hydrates thaw and release a massive amount of methane into the atmosphere. Methane that's been slowly stored for thousands of years. Methane that is a hundred times worse of a greenhouse gas than CO2.

Remember way back in early 2020 when the media talked about The Curve in terms of COVID? That curve that was exponential and very quickly approached vertical?

We are already well on that curve, at the base of the vertical increase in average yearly temperatures in terms of global warming.

And we're doing next to nothing in aggregate, as a species, to stop or even slow it.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
17. Oh, I'm not giving up
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:45 PM
Dec 2021

In fact, all my activities are related to mitigating climate change. Nearly all is volunteer work. I've done this for some 40 years now. I've spearheaded grassroots groups that have gotten laws through and I've done numerous court cases on behalf of the environment. I've seen that polluters got fines and I've halted a bit of development around here.

However, I don't believe any of it did much good. Nor do I think there will be any change in human behavior. At least, however, I can say I did what I could.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
22. Then perhaps don't write short missives like you are giving up or trying to discourage others. . .nt
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 08:03 PM
Dec 2021

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
8. Will that suffocate humans and animals living in the permafrost areas?
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:23 PM
Dec 2021

Could it cause random explosions?

My concern is that we've reached the point of no return unless drastic measures are taken--which they won't be.

caraher

(6,359 posts)
11. No
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:33 PM
Dec 2021

The issue is that methane is a powerful greenhouse gas and its release would further accelerate warming

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
18. I was just thinking of how it needs to be burned off at some landfills
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:50 PM
Dec 2021

And at others, the methane release stinks to high he'll.

But I guess it probably won't be that concentrated.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
30. Landfills and oil wells burn it off *because* it is such a strong greenhouse gas.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:24 PM
Dec 2021

Burning methane in air rearranges it into CO2 and water*.

So they're still emitting CO2 but at least it's not methane?


* for the curious: CH4 + 2O2 → CO2 + 2H2O

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
10. I saw an episode of Vice on this general topic - the Antractic ice sheet.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:27 PM
Dec 2021

The reporter was flying with a Swedish environmental team, aboard a plane with equipment that could measure the thickness of the ice. There were also visible observations that were made as well, of course.

The team told the reporter how much change had occurred over the interim since they had last flown over it. The reporter said "So this is a 'Holy Shit' moment, then?"

The answer was "We passed 'Holy Shit' a few years ago.


And in another Internet video highlighting, among other things, the temperature differentials around the world. On that day, the weather monitoring equipment somewhere on the Western ice sheet reported that it was about 5 F warmer there than in San Francisco. WTF???

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
25. This graph is NOTHING like what it will BE like. Covid is just a beta test of humans' ability
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 08:23 PM
Dec 2021

to coordinate its best help and drop its bullshit inertia.

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