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global1

(26,507 posts)
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:04 AM Dec 2021

Somebody, But Somebody Is Gonna Spill The Beans On Tr**p....

This somebody will make a calculated decision - "it's either him or me and it ain't gonna be me" - and they are going to spill at the mouth and sink Tr**p.

I think this moment is coming soon.

The question is - who is this 'somebody' gonna be?

Hmmmm.........

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Somebody, But Somebody Is Gonna Spill The Beans On Tr**p.... (Original Post) global1 Dec 2021 OP
I agree with you OLDMDDEM Dec 2021 #1
Whomever It's Gonna Be Will Go Down In History As.... global1 Dec 2021 #7
I believe OLDMDDEM Dec 2021 #10
because 1500 coordinated radio stations dominated messaging in the US the last 30 years and certainot Dec 2021 #24
Years ago OLDMDDEM Dec 2021 #26
probably especially bad in narrow florida where a string of stations could cover it all easily certainot Dec 2021 #31
Yes. OLDMDDEM Dec 2021 #32
We experienced the same thing on a road trip from Chicago to Yellowstone Park. Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author OLDMDDEM Dec 2021 #30
25 percent nt Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #59
The problem is that anyone who could spill the beans probably thinks he's the greatest president Poiuyt Dec 2021 #52
Incoming...Inevitable...Imminent Achilleaze Dec 2021 #2
I'm not sure anymore samplegirl Dec 2021 #3
Who? "Whole Lotta Shakin Goin On" empedocles Dec 2021 #4
I think they already have. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #5
I think you are right PatSeg Dec 2021 #27
From your lips (or keyboard), to 3Hotdogs Dec 2021 #6
I think they already have, and I suspect the AG has already spoken with that person or persons. The JohnSJ Dec 2021 #8
The DOJ, we know, is actively exchanging information with the J6 Committee... Eyeball_Kid Dec 2021 #16
Well put. multigraincracker Dec 2021 #46
Problem is, none of them are capable of telling the truth even when their lives depend on it Walleye Dec 2021 #9
Expectations, especially in this matter, are premeditated disappointments. Magoo48 Dec 2021 #11
Even when someone spills the beans on Trump, nothing happens. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #12
Oh, please, oh please, oh please! Let it be so! Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #13
Michael Cohen did. And??? blm Dec 2021 #14
and the walls have cracked RussBLib Dec 2021 #15
Well said, the system works KS Toronado Dec 2021 #50
🤞🏽 blm Dec 2021 #58
Is Ms Maxwell's sentence set in stone, or is there room to negotiate, using inside information? Siwsan Dec 2021 #17
Sentencing has not occurred AFAIK... Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #19
I've thought about that possibility, too. Siwsan Dec 2021 #20
Maxwell is awaiting sentencing. Texin Dec 2021 #23
What beans are left to spill? Midnight Writer Dec 2021 #18
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Dec 2021 #37
+1 CrispyQ Dec 2021 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #54
What will it matter edhopper Dec 2021 #21
I don't know that we do have enough to go after him...Trump is cagey and has spend multiple Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #36
They had no problem edhopper Dec 2021 #49
she lied to the FBI that was what she was charged with...very simple. They were not able to prove Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #56
I surely hope you all are right, I remain skeptical. CanonRay Dec 2021 #22
Not everyone. Boomerproud Dec 2021 #41
Maybe... Snackshack Dec 2021 #25
Michael Cohen ring a bell? The beans have been spilled by him and others. No one cares. Autumn Dec 2021 #28
It's a wall of silence, and the beans are already public information bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #29
Yes it's going to happen sooner or later FakeNoose Dec 2021 #33
I sincerely hope I am wrong but I just don't think given Trumps MO that will happen. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #38
Bringing Chump to justice? No it's not going to happen, but we deserve to know what he's done FakeNoose Dec 2021 #40
I hope that happens and I agree that it sure might...his bud Alex Jones threatened to Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #57
I would like to think that would happen, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #34
I think it will require the right prosecutor too Auggie Dec 2021 #35
If facing jail time fightforfreedom Dec 2021 #39
I have always figured it going to be his former Chief of Staff Dan Dec 2021 #42
It'll have to be someone willing to go into hiding jmowreader Dec 2021 #43
Be gentle... newdayneeded Dec 2021 #53
I think if it was going to happen at all, it would have happened by now. Aristus Dec 2021 #44
Scuttlebutt jmbar2 Dec 2021 #45
One can only hope. THis has gone long enough. Paper Roses Dec 2021 #47
+1 nitpicker Dec 2021 #55
If Putin is behind Trump will the decision be that simple for the actual responsible? ShazamIam Dec 2021 #51

OLDMDDEM

(3,219 posts)
1. I agree with you
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:07 AM
Dec 2021

I've been thinking that for a while now. Yet, who could it be? I wonder if it could be one of his kids.

global1

(26,507 posts)
7. Whomever It's Gonna Be Will Go Down In History As....
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:17 AM
Dec 2021

the person that toppled the worst president ever and also the most hated person of our lifetime.

They will become famous. Garner a lot of attention.

I think we're in for some real interesting times.

OLDMDDEM

(3,219 posts)
10. I believe
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:25 AM
Dec 2021

you are right on this. The DOJ will have their work handed to them. Someone will spill the beans and that will end the shenanigans of the repug party for a generation as far as winning most elections. Which makes me wonder how they could win electios with only 29% (read it somewhere recently) of the electorate.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
24. because 1500 coordinated radio stations dominated messaging in the US the last 30 years and
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 AM
Dec 2021

that counts for a shitload of 'independents' and apathetic and lazy unaffiiated voters. dems and media ignoring that is why they win any except the deepest red

it's like when they wonder how 70% of republicans still think tfg won - it's the same dittohead teabag trumper base

OLDMDDEM

(3,219 posts)
26. Years ago
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:02 PM
Dec 2021

my wife and I were visiting our parents in Florida. Driving between parent's homes took over an hour, so we turned on the car radio to talk stations. It was all Limbaugh and Hannity. So we listened to music.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
31. probably especially bad in narrow florida where a string of stations could cover it all easily
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:08 PM
Dec 2021

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
60. We experienced the same thing on a road trip from Chicago to Yellowstone Park.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 01:01 AM
Dec 2021

Once we got West of the Twin Cities, it was all Limbaugh, Hannity, and Radio Jesus.

Response to certainot (Reply #24)

Poiuyt

(18,272 posts)
52. The problem is that anyone who could spill the beans probably thinks he's the greatest president
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 01:41 PM
Dec 2021

in our history and loves him like a god.

Haggard Celine

(17,861 posts)
5. I think they already have.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:17 AM
Dec 2021

Lots of people have already come to the committee voluntarily. We don't know who they are, but I think at least a couple have given testimony that implicated Trump. Mark Meadows gave up his text messages, which show that the people closest to Trump believed he was directing the coup, or at least he was allowing it to take place without interfering. They probably have enough to send his case to Justice and have him indicted, but I think they're trying to get some irrefutable evidence before they do that.

PatSeg

(53,248 posts)
27. I think you are right
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:05 PM
Dec 2021

And yes, it is probably more than one person. It is understandable that such a person or persons is not doing so publicly at this time, as it would be part of an ongoing investigation and there is no room for error.

Trump has made far too many enemies, even among those who supported him. He does not inspire loyalty, just fear and resentment. Eventually it all has to come to a head. Trump is a fool if he thinks people aren't going to retaliate for all the abuse he has dished out for years.

Hopefully we are right.

3Hotdogs

(15,438 posts)
6. From your lips (or keyboard), to
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:17 AM
Dec 2021

Jared's ears (or eyeballs).

I think he's the 2nd most narcissistic of the bunch.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
8. I think they already have, and I suspect the AG has already spoken with that person or persons. The
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:18 AM
Dec 2021

question is there enough to indict trump, and will the AG do it?

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
16. The DOJ, we know, is actively exchanging information with the J6 Committee...
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 AM
Dec 2021

We should also know that any DOJ investigation that leads to a GJ indictment, especially one that's so far-reaching that it includes members of Congress, must be so thorough that Justice knows all of the answers before they ask questions. So it makes sense that, if the J6 Committee has incriminating evidence, so does the DOJ, and vice versa.

Logically, if the DOJ has incriminating evidence, they must prosecute. They have no choice. Given what the J6 Committee has already uncovered, no prosecutions from the DOJ means that the DOJ is no longer a functioning arm of the Executive Branch.

IOW, if there are no prosecutions of the organizers of the insurrection, then our nation has already undergone a successful coup, and that what we're seeing and reading in the daily news about "investigations" and potential prosecutions of the enablers and organizers is nothing but window dressing-- a Potemkin exercise intended to mollify the masses, but with no meaningful consequences. It also means that the next insurrection attempt will be a cakewalk, and the Capitol and perhaps the White House will be overrun by the new Barbarians. But only if the Barbarians don't already have the keys to the doors. If all of that is true, Biden may as well resign and invite Trump back to the White House.

But no. Even given that the federal government, including the DOJ, is peppered with Trumpian fascists, there are simply too many professional staff at DOJ who would fight to the death to preserve the Union and the Constitution. If the DOJ did not have designs on prosecuting co-conspirators to the insurrection, the leaking of that intent within the department would be the kind of news that would circulate all over the globe in seconds. Right now, the evidence uncovered by the J6 Committee is so abundant and powerful that prosecutions are more predictable than the dawning of tomorrow's day.

So all of this is coming to a head. The J6 Committee is the rooster that crows at the first light of day. The DOJ will be the morning sunshine. It's either inevitable, or the nation has already collapsed.

Walleye

(45,095 posts)
9. Problem is, none of them are capable of telling the truth even when their lives depend on it
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:20 AM
Dec 2021

RussBLib

(10,679 posts)
15. and the walls have cracked
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:40 AM
Dec 2021

I share the impatience, but it is tempered with faith that the system is going to work. No doubt lots going on behind the scenes.

KS Toronado

(23,730 posts)
50. Well said, the system works
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 01:24 PM
Dec 2021

Everybody needs to remember that there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes we never hear about because
investigators don't want the bad guys to know they're after them. It's why I give Garland a lot of rope.

Siwsan

(27,861 posts)
17. Is Ms Maxwell's sentence set in stone, or is there room to negotiate, using inside information?
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:06 AM
Dec 2021

Just a random thought, this morning.

Wounded Bear

(64,439 posts)
19. Sentencing has not occurred AFAIK...
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:16 AM
Dec 2021

it usually takes a while after conviction to set sentences, so some negotiating could happen.

I hope she doesn't get 'Epsteined' before she spills, though.

Siwsan

(27,861 posts)
20. I've thought about that possibility, too.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:22 AM
Dec 2021

It's a strange time we are living in. I miss the mundane, that's for sure.

Texin

(2,854 posts)
23. Maxwell is awaiting sentencing.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 AM
Dec 2021

I'm not at all sure at this point that "spilling the tea" would do her much good. The prosecution will present their sentencing recommendations to the judge at the time they go back to court for that hearing, so it's possible that if she gave up more information it could help her case for a lighter jail term, but the judge will make the ruling on time to be served.

Midnight Writer

(25,550 posts)
18. What beans are left to spill?
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:14 AM
Dec 2021

That he molests women? That he is a failure as a businessman? That he pals up to dictators and hates democracies? That he hired Russian assets to the top tier of his Administration? That he plotted to overturn a lawful election? That he sabotaged the fight against Covid? That he is a liar and conman? That he pardoned his cronies in crime? That he fired all of the investigators who were looking into his crimes? That he promotes violence against his political foes? That he lied to get massive loans, many of which he defaulted? That he cheated on his taxes?

He committed most of his crimes right out in the open. In fact, he brags about many of them. It is part of his appeal.

The problem isn't so much that we don't know what he did. The problem is that he is likely to get away with it.

CrispyQ

(41,022 posts)
48. +1
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 01:09 PM
Dec 2021

I keep hearing the legal experts on TV say "we have to prove intent." Well, if calling the SOS of GA & saying, "I just want to find 11,780 votes" isn't intent, what the fuck is?

Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #18)

edhopper

(37,407 posts)
21. What will it matter
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:32 AM
Dec 2021

if they don't prosecute. We al ready have enough to go after him.
It's not Justice delayed, it's Justice denied.

Demsrule86

(71,549 posts)
36. I don't know that we do have enough to go after him...Trump is cagey and has spend multiple
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:20 PM
Dec 2021

decades breaking the law and getting away with it. Knowing something and proving it are two different things...and do believe a jury will convict him? Personally, I think his finances are what we need to go after at the state level.

edhopper

(37,407 posts)
49. They had no problem
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 01:19 PM
Dec 2021

with Martha Stewart. Yes, his finances are most definitely criminal. As well as his Federal Taxes.
I think it is more a matter of will than evidence.

Demsrule86

(71,549 posts)
56. she lied to the FBI that was what she was charged with...very simple. They were not able to prove
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 08:45 PM
Dec 2021

she engaged in insider training even though, It sure looks like she did.

CanonRay

(16,201 posts)
22. I surely hope you all are right, I remain skeptical.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 AM
Dec 2021

but I love unbridled enthusiasm and optimism. It's like everyone is s Cubs fan.

Snackshack

(2,591 posts)
25. Maybe...
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:02 PM
Dec 2021

Now that things are getting to a point where potentially, maybe, possibly some consequences are going to start being a part of all this someone might decide that it’s “gonna be him not me”…

Having said that I have thought for years now that surely someone with knowledge of DT’s actions and methods still has some vestige of “Country 1st, Party 2nd” patriotism still left and would drop the dime on DT and Congress would take appropriate action….that obviously has not happened. A few brave people have stood up and spoke out much to their detriment only to find out that while the Dems still believe in law & order and accountability the GOP is every bit as crooked as DT.

Maybe now is the time this changes. Let’s hope so. So many have paid with their lives because of things he has done.

Autumn

(48,978 posts)
28. Michael Cohen ring a bell? The beans have been spilled by him and others. No one cares.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:07 PM
Dec 2021

But hey the DOJ is on it, as soon as they get some good leads.

bucolic_frolic

(55,435 posts)
29. It's a wall of silence, and the beans are already public information
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:07 PM
Dec 2021

Transparency is not the problem.

FakeNoose

(41,954 posts)
33. Yes it's going to happen sooner or later
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:12 PM
Dec 2021

I just hope we're all still around when the dirt hits the fan. We deserve to know. And we deserve to see the sad, crazy reactions of the Repukes once they learn the truth about him.

There is so much dirt on Chump out there, why doesn't someone leak it now?

Demsrule86

(71,549 posts)
38. I sincerely hope I am wrong but I just don't think given Trumps MO that will happen.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:22 PM
Dec 2021

He always leaves himself reasonable denial...we may see his henchmen go to jail though and that would be satisfying.

FakeNoose

(41,954 posts)
40. Bringing Chump to justice? No it's not going to happen, but we deserve to know what he's done
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:33 PM
Dec 2021

I believe the OP has stated correctly that LOTS of people are keeping silent about Chump's crimes and sooner or later someone is going to crack. They're finally realizing that their silence is what has enabled Chump all these years. The older and weaker Chump becomes, the easier it is to see that he can't stop people from talking once they decide to spill the beans.

It won't be enough to convict Chump though. I think it's way beyond that. People should see that he's Benedict Arnold, Aaron Burr and John Wilkes Booth all rolled into one.

Demsrule86

(71,549 posts)
57. I hope that happens and I agree that it sure might...his bud Alex Jones threatened to
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 08:48 PM
Dec 2021

spill the beans on Trump a couple of days ago. Here's hoping that Trump is outed in all ways. The next question is this...will it make a difference to Trumpers? That I don't know. Will they even believe it?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
34. I would like to think that would happen,
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:18 PM
Dec 2021

but it probably won't. Just ask yourself, why, in all this time, no one has really done so. Also ask, why have all of the many revelations about Trump's stupidity, ignorance, venality, and outright criminality, has made no difference whatsoever to those who support him?

Alas, he won't die in prison as I wish he would.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
39. If facing jail time
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:23 PM
Dec 2021

I believe Mark Meadows will sing like a jail house rat.

This is not a courageous man. I believe he would do anything to stay out of prison.

jmowreader

(53,278 posts)
43. It'll have to be someone willing to go into hiding
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:48 PM
Dec 2021

Some of Trump’s supporters have guns.

I think what will take him down is Ghislaine Maxwell’s records. She probably has a list of which girls slept with which clients, and should Trump be in there…oh shit. The RNC won’t be able to “stand by their man” when that comes out, and he’ll spend the rest of his miserable life in protective housing because prisoners hate “chomos” even more than we hate him.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
53. Be gentle...
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 01:58 PM
Dec 2021

But I think if this were to happen, the repubs will demand behind closed doors that a prominent Democratic (I won't give the name) figure be brought down with donny.

Aristus

(72,317 posts)
44. I think if it was going to happen at all, it would have happened by now.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:51 PM
Dec 2021

I hope I'm wrong...

jmbar2

(8,045 posts)
45. Scuttlebutt
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 12:53 PM
Dec 2021

I read @Lauferlaw twitter feed daily. He's a well-placed NY lawyer who has taken on Michael Cohen's latest lawsuit against Trump for sending him back to jail in revenge for writing a book.

He says keep an eye on Tish James' office in the next 2 weeks. He usually doesn't tease, so it must be good.

Paper Roses

(7,633 posts)
47. One can only hope. THis has gone long enough.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 01:06 PM
Dec 2021

I am so sick of hearing about the investigations, reviews, whatever you call it by the justice dept. If I worked a job with such inept accomplishments, I would have been fired.
What the heck is causing all the delays? So many miscreants, so little results.(to date)

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
55. +1
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 04:57 PM
Dec 2021

People were oh-so-hopeful at the start of the Mueller investigation.

No such luck, so many hopes, so little results.

I'll believe it when I see it.

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