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TN is seriously broken. 50 swabs in my ER. 47 positive. NOT ONE VACCINATED! And yet they still have no intentions of getting the vaccine. I give up. There's no fixing them.
Our health care workers are absolutely going through hell right now due to the unvaccinated idiots in this country. We have reached a point where if there is no bed space available, we need to start swapping unvaccinated COVID patients with vaccinated ones needing hospital beds for whatever reason.
If beds are available, then help anyone who needs medical assistance. Otherwise, the unvaccinated by choice adults need to move to the back of the line for health care.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)of causing this pandemic to rage and infect so many innocent people who have swallowed the lies and disinfo pumped out daily by right-wing republican outlets and "leaders."
It's criminal. Mass murder by lie.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)As you said, when there are enough beds normal protocols are in place. I forget the term when there are no beds available where they have to pick and choose who gets care when resources are limited (it's not triage, something else).
But with regard to triage, doesn't it make sense to provide care to those with the best chance of a positive outcome and that tends to be people who are vaccinated, right? I realize there are many other factors involved in triage but, at baseline in a pandemic, it seems that those who are vaccinated would be considered as having the best chance of full recovery.
I know the slippery slope argument and, again, I realize there are more criteria involved beyond vaxxed/unvaxxed with triage, but surely this should be a serious conversation to be had?
The field hospital to treat the belligerently anti-vaxx people manned by sympathetic (perhaps also anti-vaxx Qultists) healthcare professionals seems to be the way to go, from my layperson perspective.
Our entire system feels like it's on the verge of collapsing thanks in large part to the anti-vaxx/anti-mask crowd and we're all going to suffer.
Initech
(100,100 posts)The anti-vaxxers are their own worst enemy and it's largely in part thanks to the hateful shit that gets posted on Facebook daily. It's truly disturbing to watch what it is doing to society. These people's minds have been completely warped and scrambled by the shit that gets posted on social media.
And it's not just that there's a few stories out there. there's THOUSANDS. And maybe even hundreds of thousands. When the dust finally settles from this nightmare, we need to drag the heels of those who created this nightmare and those who allowed it to go on as long as it has. This is absolute madness.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)Manned by unvaccinated staff. Hospital beds for vaccinated manned by vaccinated staff. Unvaccinated still get medical care, but they do so in MASH-style hospitals.
calimary
(81,441 posts)And if the COVID sufferers werent vaccinated, too bad. Set up a MASH unit in the hospital parking lot and treat the unvaccinated there. Save the hospital beds and ICU beds for the vaccinated.
IronLionZion
(45,516 posts)And Crisis Capacity Strategies when things get worse
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/mitigating-staff-shortages.html
Farmer-Rick
(10,202 posts)If you ignore medical advice because you know better, and a fat stinky ignorant fool told you the illness was imaginary, why go to a hospital filled with people who gave you the medical advice you didn't believe?
You need to go to TFG and ask for him to care for you. It was his advice you were following.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)Where the anti-vaxxers can be treated with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, bleach, and bright lights.
KS Toronado
(17,310 posts)Let RWers show that they are the smartest people in the world with all their "alternate facts" treatments.
Love to see them "Own the Doctors". Is there anyway we could shame some wealthy RWers to "help"
their fellow reQublicOns? Get FQX to promote the idea?
IronLionZion
(45,516 posts)to get a video call diagnosis. Those quacks will ship them as much snake oil as these folks want.
CanonRay
(14,112 posts)Botany
(70,567 posts)No hospital or advanced medical care for them. They chose to become viral hosts and spread the
disease against medical advice then they do not need to be clogging up hospital bed space. They
can go home and read Russian medical advice on the internet or go and see Dr. Google.
Field hospitals w/wall tents, cots that can become coffins, kept warm or cooled as needed, all the
pain killers they want, no supplemental O2, no monoclonal antibody treatments if other vaccinated
break through cases need it, minimal low risk interaction with nurses, and simple food & water.
NoRethugFriends
(2,328 posts)5 day dance currently happening, no mask required. No proof of vax required.
http://www.contradancersdelight.com/
oioioi
(1,127 posts)maybe they updated the web page?
NoRethugFriends
(2,328 posts)Vax should be required. Mask should be required. But dance should not happen anyhow.
In this type of highly aerobic dancing you are breathing directly into your partner's, and neighbor's face. Once Omicron increased all reasonable dance organizers cancelled. An example of this type of dancing
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Kudos to the health works there.
dchill
(38,521 posts)Not exactly sure what they were volunteering for. Certainly not the common good, etc.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,818 posts)"The volunteer state"
It refers to the prominent role volunteer soldiers from Tennessee played in the War of 1812, and the state's response to President James K. Polk's call for 2,600 volunteers at the beginning of the Mexican-American War. That call resulted in 30,000 volunteering from Tennessee, President Polk's home state.
lindysalsagal
(20,726 posts)We cannot be a leading society with fools like this on the loose.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Last year they passed a law banning local mask mandates. Only the governor can force action if he declares a state of emergency. Bill Lee doesnt care about the very people he pretends to serve.
Rebl2
(13,544 posts)They chose to be unvaccinated, so suffer the consequences and go to the back of the line. Those who are vaccinated and have breakthrough case should be helped.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)😈
dchill
(38,521 posts)Maggiemayhem
(811 posts)No one in the ER department is vaccinated? So glad I have cancelled my surgery and eye appointment. I am in WV and we have no mandates and our government does believe in them.
Lars39
(26,110 posts)Maggiemayhem
(811 posts)paleotn
(17,946 posts)The vast majority of hospitals across the country require covid vaccination as a condition of employment. And rightly so. No vax, no job.
Maggiemayhem
(811 posts)paleotn
(17,946 posts)housecat
(3,121 posts)Regardless of who melted their brains, they are damaged goods and not worth trying to save. Close hospital doors for them, because they've already spread the disease and killed others. Legitimate ER patients are not getting the beds and care they need because of these dangerously stupid anti-lifers. Let them drink bleach, worship tfg, and go home.
bucolic_frolic
(43,258 posts)Covid is a cleansing in a sense. Very sad to realize.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Both children and adults. The only people with few exceptions of any age still going to the hospital are both unvaxxed and either obese, have heart disease, diabetes.
And they are putting everyone else at risk if we need a hospital for other care. Parents and guardians of unhealthy kids who do not have them vaxxed are absolutely abusing the kids.
paleotn
(17,946 posts)Just like getting your flu vaccine every year. No skin off my nose. Fuck them.
calimary
(81,441 posts)if people youre trying to reach arent open to it.
Matthew 10:14.
KJ21
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2010%3A14
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