VW and Toyota are coming for Tesla, to the tune of $170 billion

[RandySF]

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VW and Toyota are coming for Tesla, to the tune of $170 billion

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. I'd bet VW and then Toyota beating Tesla.

Tesla has no institutional memory. First in, but the game is long.

[PoliticAverse]

3. And the people buying VWs are those without any criminal memory. n/t

[OAITW r.2.0]

8. Ha!

I own a 2L/T VW Passat, 2007. 120K Miles. Been in 3 accidents - all involving the LF driver's side.

A Deer, the 1st time - the night I took ownership. A metrobus the 2nd time, And a landscaping bush the 3rd time....long stories.

But I love this vehicle. 6 Speed manual. The car you want to drive on I-93 South Boston Merge into the tunnel....(or North). 33 mpg. and the action between 4th and 3rd is pretty crisp.

Not sure about criminal memory...you talking about Hitler and the start of VW or the fraud diesel emissions that every mfgr were using in their software??

[underpants]

4. German engineering

Personally I’ll never buy anything again but a Honda and maybe a Toyota.

[OAITW r.2.0]

12. And yet, as a Jetta (80-90s) and then a Pasatt in 2007

I can say, nothing but great things with regards to handling, fuel efficiency, and performance are factored into conversation.

My next vehicle will be a 6 speed manual transmission - battery powered.

[Chuuku Davis]

14. An EV with a manual?

[OAITW r.2.0]

15. Why not? I can tell the battery how I want the energy utilized.

[DarwinsRetriever]

16. But the gears and clutch won't be able to handle the instant 100% torque

Yep, the clutch would self destruct.

[dalton99a]

2. And Toyota has surpassed GM in U.S. sales

[Initech]

5. Anything that gets us off petroleum I am all for it!

I have seen the ID4 on the road and that looks like a pretty awesome car!

[Celerity]

10. [phone]

I am sure this huge move will also piss off the luddite EV haters and naysayers as well.

[Initech]

11. If I could afford that electric F-150 it will be mine!

[abqtommy]

6. I sure hope all the automakers are paying attention to the big Tesla recall!

"Tesla recalls nearly 500,000 US vehicles over safety issues"...

https://www.krqe.com/news/recalls/tesla-recalls-nearly-500000-us-vehicles-over-safety-issues/

[BSdetect]

7. They are not. They are trying to get a share of the EV market.

Tesla wants them to help create EVs.

This BS about "coming for Tesla" has to be dropped. Wrong narrative.

They have zero chance of "getting Tesla."

They may survive this huge change but will likely struggle to survive.

[OAITW r.2.0]

13. The future is EV.

Lots of companies with loads of marketing $ will start showing us this year and next. It's all about the Lithium.

[DBoon]

9. Tesla is the luxury model for affluent techno-nerds

It will survive in the same way Maserati and Ferrari survive