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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,072 posts)
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 04:05 PM Jan 2022

Omicron: Natural immunity idea 'not really panning out,' doctor explains

The Omicron strain of the coronavirus is fueling a rapid surge in confirmed COVID-19 cases — including among vaccinated and even boosted Americans — and a new rise in hospitalizations among unvaccinated Americans is further weakening the notion that natural immunity alone provides adequate protection amid the evolving pandemic.

“This idea of natural immunity is not really panning out with this virus,” Dr. Hilary Fairbrother, an emergency medicine physician based in New York City, said on Yahoo Finance Live (video above). “I think part of that is because Omicron has so many mutations, and there’s really no way to know what the next variant will have.”

The U.S. is nearing 60 million confirmed cases and is averaging more than 500,000 new confirmed cases a day over the last week, raising new questions about whether the U.S. will be able to reach herd immunity.

“I think the problem with herd immunity is that is really taking into account that this virus won’t mutate significantly and we might not have a very significant variant roaming around that has nothing to do with omicron that really doesn’t see any natural immunity from people who have been sick with omicron,” Fairbrother said, adding that "that's kind of what we saw with" previous variants.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/omicron-natural-immunity-doctor-161847721.html

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Omicron: Natural immunity idea 'not really panning out,' doctor explains (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2022 OP
Natural immunity - see how well that worked out for the Black Plague. keithbvadu2 Jan 2022 #1
How did we beat the Black Plague? fescuerescue Jan 2022 #2
Mostly 2 Synergistic Causes ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #3
Mostly massive deaths and isolation/quarantine. keithbvadu2 Jan 2022 #4
I've always questioned the value of getting a vaccine against last year's flu. milestogo Jan 2022 #5

keithbvadu2

(36,836 posts)
1. Natural immunity - see how well that worked out for the Black Plague.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jan 2022

Natural immunity - see how well that worked out for the Black Plague.

ProfessorGAC

(65,094 posts)
3. Mostly 2 Synergistic Causes
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jan 2022

The least susceptible became a much greater % of the population, plus strict quarantining of entire cities or regions.
They contained it by locale and those locations lost the least resistant.
That quarantining was easier then as there was no cultural acclimation to routine & rapid travel. Telling people in the 14th century they couldn't leave town was easier, because the vast majority never did, anyway.
We do have the advantage of the vax, but the disadvantage of having 25% of the population who are still too stupid to have gotten the first shot.

keithbvadu2

(36,836 posts)
4. Mostly massive deaths and isolation/quarantine.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 05:15 PM
Jan 2022

Mostly massive deaths and isolation/quarantine.

They had no real medicine for it.

https://www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox

At first, sailors were held on their ships for 30 days, which became known in Venetian law as a trentino. As time went on, the Venetians increased the forced isolation to 40 days or a quarantino, the origin of the word quarantine and the start of its practice in the Western world.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
5. I've always questioned the value of getting a vaccine against last year's flu.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 05:55 PM
Jan 2022

You are protected from the old flu, but not this year's flu.

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