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brooklynite

(94,588 posts)
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 10:47 PM Jan 2022

Jan 6 comments by AG Garland that people seem to be skipping over...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-merrick-b-garland-delivers-remarks-first-anniversary-attack-capitol

In charging the perpetrators, we have followed well-worn prosecutorial practices.

Those who assaulted officers or damaged the Capitol face greater charges.

Those who conspired with others to obstruct the vote count also face greater charges.

Those who did not undertake such conduct have been charged with lesser offenses — particularly if they accepted their responsibility early and cooperated with the investigation.


In complex cases, initial charges are often less severe than later charged offenses. This is purposeful, as investigators methodically collect and sift through more evidence.


The Justice Department remains committed to holding all January 6th perpetrators, at any level, accountable under law — whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy. We will follow the facts wherever they lead.


Because January 6th was an unprecedented attack on the seat of our democracy, we understand that there is broad public interest in our investigation. We understand that there are questions about how long the investigation will take, and about what exactly we are doing.

Our answer is, and will continue to be, the same answer we would give with respect to any ongoing investigation: as long as it takes and whatever it takes for justice to be done — consistent with the facts and the law.

I understand that this may not be the answer some are looking for. But we will and we must speak through our work. Anything else jeopardizes the viability of our investigations and the civil liberties of our citizens.


We build investigations by laying a foundation. We resolve more straightforward cases first because they provide the evidentiary foundation for more complex cases.


Investigating the more overt crimes generates linkages to less overt ones. Overt actors and the evidence they provide can lead us to others who may also have been involved. And that evidence can serve as the foundation for further investigative leads and techniques.


In circumstances like those of January 6th, a full accounting does not suddenly materialize. To ensure that all those criminally responsible are held accountable, we must collect the evidence.


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Jan 6 comments by AG Garland that people seem to be skipping over... (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2022 OP
K&R for visibility. Thanks. tblue37 Jan 2022 #1
That's enough for me to chill. nt oasis Jan 2022 #2
Thank you. elleng Jan 2022 #3
Thanks! To me, enough to "criminally charge" is the Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #4
I'll believe it when I see it. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #5
Thank you! relayerbob Jan 2022 #6
More to the point: LAW & ORDER gets through the arrest AND the trial in 44 minutes! brooklynite Jan 2022 #8
ya' can't make everybody happy!! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #7
Thank you for the reminder; I have been meaning to review the full remarks. CBHagman Jan 2022 #9
You can be certain sir, of this...tRumps lawyers are carefully parsing every word..and Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #10
Someone has recently repudiated this notion of "regular order" in adjudicating the worst crime in .. Grasswire2 Jan 2022 #11
One phrase from Garland's speech is worth repeating Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #12
Of course, anyone who is getting bashed like Garland would say the same Hoyt Jan 2022 #13
Here in Pa. right now it is Monday, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #20
Not talking about enforcing Meadows' subpoena. That's small potatoes. Hoyt Jan 2022 #22
There's a problem here that no one seems to be concerned about. AverageOldGuy Jan 2022 #14
Yes. The Ollie olloie oxenfree clause Generic Brad Jan 2022 #16
++++ KPN Jan 2022 #19
Thank you for this. niyad Jan 2022 #15
Overlooked? I disagree. Some just expect more sooner KPN Jan 2022 #17
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Jan 2022 #18
fair and well done, certainly shows reason to remain calm and focused bringthePaine Jan 2022 #21
Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock. Orrex Jan 2022 #23
KnR sarchasm Jan 2022 #24
TY Brooklyknite empedocles Jan 2022 #25
Garland needs to be fired, irrespective of the January 6 complex cases. Goodheart Jan 2022 #26
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. Thanks! To me, enough to "criminally charge" is the
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:04 PM
Jan 2022

key to getting the 1-6 PTB. And leverage if they are lucky enough to have it.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
9. Thank you for the reminder; I have been meaning to review the full remarks.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:21 PM
Jan 2022

And I have been thinking how they're going to want to dot every I and cross every T on this one.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
10. You can be certain sir, of this...tRumps lawyers are carefully parsing every word..and
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:23 PM
Jan 2022

the word is,..be scared tRump and mobsters and fascists…very scared.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
11. Someone has recently repudiated this notion of "regular order" in adjudicating the worst crime in ..
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:26 PM
Jan 2022

..American history. I don't remember who it was, in the last few days. But I will find it.

Beastly Boy

(9,367 posts)
12. One phrase from Garland's speech is worth repeating
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:39 PM
Jan 2022
The Justice Department remains committed to holding all January 6th perpetrators, at any level, accountable under law"


Under the law. Don't expect DOJ to charge Trump for being an asshole. Or Bannon for his apparent disregard for basic hygiene.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Of course, anyone who is getting bashed like Garland would say the same
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:47 PM
Jan 2022

thing, even if he knew it was going to take evidence like trump directing waves of insurrectionists to specific Capitol entrances, blocking troops from responding, etc.

I bet I could find similar comments from FitzGerald, Mueller, etc.

Until they actually do something, I think the polls are where we are going to have to resolve matters. We have other problems in this country.

gab13by13

(21,351 posts)
20. Here in Pa. right now it is Monday,
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 01:27 AM
Jan 2022

day 26 since the select committee sent a criminal referral to Garland for Meadows ignoring a subpoena.

I know why Garland is not acting yet. It isn't because there isn't evidence that he ignored a subpoena.

AverageOldGuy

(1,528 posts)
14. There's a problem here that no one seems to be concerned about.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:58 PM
Jan 2022

I may be wrong -- but I think I am not -- is there not some DOJ policy that they will not discuss cases involving candidates for office within XXX days of the election so as not to seem to be interfering with the election?

This matter came to the fore when the FBI Director started running of at the mouth about Hillary's emails.

This is important because if DOJ is homing in on someone who is running for election, we will not know about it and the individual under investigation can continue to claim he/she is without sin, when, in fact, they are about to be charged with heinous crimes.

I want Garland to get off the dime and announce investigations -- who is being investigated, for what are they being investigated -- and I want to see him presenting cases to grand juries now, not when he is throttled by some DOJ policy.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
16. Yes. The Ollie olloie oxenfree clause
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:03 AM
Jan 2022

Garland is going to have to brush aside tradition based on bullshit internal memos and follow the damned law. Democracy is at stake.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
17. Overlooked? I disagree. Some just expect more sooner
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 01:13 AM
Jan 2022

given the dire circumstances. Not a lot different from what the working and middle class have been experiencing over the past almost 50 years — expectations that exceed results. Some call those expectations unrealistic while others call them necessary for longer-term societal well-being. In the end, the proof is in the pudding. Let’s hope your inclination is right.

Goodheart

(5,325 posts)
26. Garland needs to be fired, irrespective of the January 6 complex cases.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:24 AM
Jan 2022

The 10 counts of obstruction of justice in the Mueller investigation are not complex and occurred independently of the January 6 crimes, a long time ago now. They should have already been indicted.

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