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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie Sanders says Democrats are failing: 'The party has turned its back on the working class'
The GuardianThe White House is likely to see his comments as a shot across the bow by the left wing of a party increasingly frustrated at how centrist Democrats have managed to scupper or delay huge chunks of Bidens domestic policy plans.
In an interview with the Guardian, Sanders called on Joe Biden and the Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, to push to hold votes on individual bills that would be a boon to working families, citing extending the child tax credit, cutting prescription drug prices and raising the federal hourly minimum wage to $15.
Such votes would be good policy and good politics, the Vermont senator insisted, saying they would show the Democrats battling for the working class while highlighting Republican opposition to hugely popular policies.
orwell
(7,773 posts)...it's Manchin and Sinema.
At least get your facts straight...
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)his belief in all that time that Democrats were the impediment to America's joining the world socialist revolution (or more accurately century of cascades of revolutions.)
Proud to agree that's true, as far as it goes. It sure wasn't the conservatives who saved our nation from the collapse they caused and replaced desperation and privation with prosperity and equality.
"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat." Bernie Sanders
Tumbulu
(6,278 posts)something democrats cannot seem to do.
Circular firing squad at its best.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)Seems like you agree to some extent with Sanders.
Tumbulu
(6,278 posts)for the united front the republicans use against democrats.
And then blame the democrats for.
Hekate
(90,690 posts)
in government at any level. The GOPpers have all vanished. So naturally, it is the Democrats who are failing at every level.
Thank you, Bernie, for reminding me just how much you are not a trustworthy friend to us Democrats.
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)The House Dems passed every goddamn thing you wanted. The Senate is 50-50, and the entire GOP is and TWO malcontent Dems are what is holding up your agenda, not the Democratic party. I am so sick of this kind of shit.
brush
(53,778 posts)Bernie, Bernie, Bernie, we thought after all these months of relative good behavior you'd finally gotten past all the '60s, campus radical rhetoric you've used so often in past campaigns.
Seems we were wrong.
And BTW, it's not going to persuade Manchin and Sinema to re-think their BBB stances. In fact, it may even harden their recalcitrant asses even more.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,986 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)questionseverything
(9,654 posts)Let their constituents know repubs do not support working people trying to raise a family
Bernie is right, break bbb into small, easy to understand popular bills, even our two hold outs might come around
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)The man might take a shot at criticizing Republicans....
Hekate
(90,690 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)But that probably doesn't support your narrative, so go on.
DFW
(54,384 posts)The first campaign speech of the Democratic Primary of 2024.
"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat."
PS: "but no one else will listen to and quote me, so here I am again!"
Thats exactly right.
Yandex
(273 posts)One of a kind. God love ya
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)You might get that checked out.
sheshe2
(83,770 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)sheshe2
(83,770 posts)Link from the Mod Squad does not answer the question. So you have no link other than Link?
PS. I loved that show as a kid. Thanks for the memories.
progressoid
(49,990 posts)sheshe2
(83,770 posts)Response to The Magistrate (Reply #8)
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progressoid
(49,990 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)Neither the word "fail" nor "failure" appears anywhere in the article, certainly not as a comment made by Sanders. This article also injects more opinion and projection into the story than it should.
Obviously certain bills must be held back until the votes are there (BBB, Voting Rights) but I don't entirely disagree with his push to see smaller individual bills put up for vote. Make Republicans vote against those bills and own those votes that go against their constituents' interests.
comradebillyboy
(10,148 posts)for his proposals. He's been in congress for quite a long time now and one would hope the Senator knows how to get his legislation to the floor for a vote. The Senator makes it seem easy.
sheshe2
(83,770 posts)leftstreet
(36,108 posts)betsuni
(25,531 posts)"The current model and the current strategy of the Democratic Party is an absolute failure." (2017)
"The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last fifteen years or so has been a failure." (2018)
crickets
(25,980 posts)I'm sure Sanders will say plenty that people don't like (myself included) in 2022, and maybe even use the word failure, but he didn't say it in this article. It's a bad headline.
betsuni
(25,531 posts)But he does think that, it's clear. His message is that the Democratic Party ignores the working class because it's a party of "coastal elites" beholden to the "donor class"/corporations/Wall Street/oligarchs/billionaires and because they're corrupt have the same economic policies as Republicans.
He has been saying the same thing for decades, but has been a champion for the Biden administration, which was great. Now this interview, last month ("The Democratic Party must once again become the party that stands up for the working class of this country" ), guess going back to original message. Democrats turning their back on, ignoring and failing the working class.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... factual or fair.
Mad_Machine76
(24,412 posts)Focus your ire on all 50 Republicans + 2 Democratic Republicans. Everybody else in on board with ya, Bern!
betsuni
(25,531 posts)ways the Democratic Party has turned its back on the working class."
Republican voters are overwhelmingly white and financially better off than Democratic voters, the actual working class. At least he didn't say "elites" and "establishment" and "status quo" and "beholden."
I still don't know what "take on" means.
"Democrats are going to have to clear the air and say to the drug companies -- and say it loudly -- we're talking about the needs of the working class -- and use the expression 'working class.'"
So, the advice is to hold votes even if you don't have the votes to pass things, speak to corporations very loudly (maybe this is what take on means), repeat "working class" a lot.
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myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...the pukes is hopelessly futile so where can he apply criticism most effectively for change?
"...centrist Democrats have managed to scupper or delay huge chunks of Bidens domestic policy plans."
...we all knew when they separated the BBB from the Infrastructure what was coming...are we suppose to be happy?
...are we supposed lick our wounds and go back to keeping our powder dry?...have what's left of the middle-class totally disappear?...wait another 50 years?
...Bernie speaks the truth...
...if you don't want to hear it, that's your problem...
...
iemanja
(53,032 posts)and instead focus on things most of us agree on.
Do you agree that Democrats have abandoned the "working class"? How do you imagine that's possible when the majority of the working class comprised of women and people of color continue to support Democrats? The only part of the working class that doesn't support the Dem Party is the white Trump voter, who values white supremacy and hatred for liberals above all else. Yet Sanders continues to cling to a 20th century notion of who those people are and insists on ignoring what they themselves have to say about their political beliefs.
...we'll see what happens come November...
...
W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)Response to brooklynite (Original post)
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mcar
(42,331 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)msongs
(67,406 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)Celerity
(43,383 posts)iemanja
(53,032 posts)on the working class, and by that he means the white working class, who happen to support Trump.
Quote: It is no great secret that the Republican party is winning more and more support from working people, Sanders said. Its not because the Republican party has anything to say to them. Its because in too many ways the Democratic party has turned its back on the working class.
Why is it that Sanders can't understand that the working class includes the women and people of color who support Democrats? Why does he continue to use racially bound tropes without awareness of what he's saying?
Does he really believe only white Trump voters work? What the hell does he think the rest of us do, particularly voters of color who hold the majority of low-income jobs in this country? And why would you defend such rhetoric?
betsuni
(25,531 posts)the working class." It has failed the working class.
He's used the word failure before, this is nothing new.
"The current model and the current strategy of the Democratic Party is an absolute failure. The Democratic Party needs fundamental change. What it needs is to open its doors to working people, and young people, and older people who are prepared to fight for social and economic justice. The Democratic Party must understand which side it is on. And that cannot be the side of Wall Street, or the fossil fuel industry, or the drug companies." (2017 at the People's Summit).
"The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last fifteen years or so has been a failure." (2018)
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)who are uniformly fighting everything Biden tries to do?
progressoid
(49,990 posts)From the linked article.
he said. They are issues that are enormously popular, and on every one of them, the Republicans are in opposition.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)progressoid
(49,990 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... or fair.
That's text book bashing
Cha
(297,240 posts)FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Hey Bernie - if you want to criticize our Party, you have to JOIN or Party first, OK?
progressoid
(49,990 posts)If he joined the party, people absolutely lose their shit.
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)And why I did not vote for him in the primary.
Getting tired of his rants.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Most Dems in the HOUSE have Voted FOR Biden's Helping America and her People.. Even most of the Progs.. I guess there were a few who didn't.
But Most Dems have PJB's BACK!
Meanwhile McCarthyism is Rearing It's Ugly Head for the Midterms..
Link to tweet
liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)Reminds everyone that he dislikes the Democratic Party. This is news?
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,835 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)Torchlight
(3,339 posts)TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)They should bring each issue up for an individual vote. They always package all these things that are not necessary related and then theres always something that one too many Senators doesnt like so they vote against the whole package and in that way, nothing ever gets passed.
onenote
(42,703 posts)They actually know the rules.
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...Bernie
"He said millions of Americans were concerned with such painful realities as low wages, dead-end jobs, debt, homelessness, lack of healthcare. In that statement, he said, many working-class Americans have grown disaffected with the political system because nothing changes for them or, if it does, its usually for the worse."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/10/bernie-sanders-democrats-failing-working-class-interview
...sounds like truth to me...
48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)An ambassadorship to Tristan da Cunha or something?
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...this is basically flamebait with the false, salacious title.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... or fair and its 100% text book bashing.
I wish he wouldn't do that