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[roody]

1. It would be better if the dumbasses got vaccinated.

[Froggyproggy]

3. Unfortunately they won't.

It’s clear at this point and the grim reality is this may be the best contingency.

[abqtommy]

2. From what I've read and heard, omicron is mild for some people but not for others. This

has been the case since this pandemic started. Of course now we have the vaxx and boosters and any fool who ignores that deserves what they get. I'm sure that the only
"herd immunity" that will ever exist is when all the unvaxxed folks die and all we're left with
is a herd of vaxxed and boosted folks.

[former9thward]

7. Given the death rate is far less than 1% your last point will never happen.

[RobinA]

4. I'm Thinking

that’s where this is headed. Or something close to it.

[lapfog_1]

5. if you have been vaccinated and boosted or had a previous COVID infection

and you are otherwise in good health...

you are very likely to only experience mild symptoms.

That said, I have a friend in Brazil who was fully vaxxed and boosted and is 32 year old male in good health.. and he just had a very bad case of COVID.

You are much less LIKELY to be hospitalized or to die from Omicron.

It could end the pandemic if Omicron prevents infection by future variants (big if).

Most of us will be exposed to Omicron in the next few weeks.

[Hav]

6. In related news: Covid-19 Hospitalizations In The US Reach Levels Not Seen Since Last Winter's Surge

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142851596

There is nothing beneficial about the mindset of abandoning all safety measures and just getting the disease.

[FBaggins]

9. But not deaths

It may be that "covid hospitalizations" deltas are less "went to the hospital because my Covid was so serious" and more "I was in the hospital for 'X' and tested positive for Covid too"

IOW, the things that the right wing imagined a year and a half ago may coincidentally be correct now.

[Hav]

12. The point is about hospitals being overwhelmed

and patients with other issues getting their treatments postponed again and again.

[FBaggins]

15. The open question is whether they're being overwhelmed because of new Covid patients

We know that many are being overwhelmed because of Covid infections (and/or lack of sufficient vaccination) among the staff members but I haven't seen strong data showing widespread "overwhelming" by people coming in due to serious Covid infections.

[MineralMan]

10. I don't want to be part of your "we," frankly.

Vaxxed and boosted, I am. If they want me to get another booster, I will.

[janterry]

11. I'm waiting on better treatment options

or hoping for them. I think that's our best way forward.

We WILL get lots of immunity from omicron, though. that's certain. most of us will have an exposure. I might have had a very mild case last week (sore throat for 2 days, neg. at home test).

[PSPS]

13. Aw, Jeez.

There is no such thing as "herd immunity" with a mutating virus.

[inthewind21]

24. Thank you

[NewHendoLib]

14. so, run rampant and use countless people as mutation forming labs?

Yikes. Terrible idea.

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. Nope. Nt

[wiggs]

17. It's a good question to ask, but I suggest skepticism/caution wrt anyone who says definitively that

they know one way or another. This beast has been around for only a month. The whole covid-19 phenomenon has been around for two years. There are SO many unanswered questions on who it affects most/least, what the parameters for infection are, what long covid consequences are (more and more studies suggest that covid generally is going to be a long term public health issue), what organs are affected the most (more people are talking about it in neurology terms w a drop in IQ for even mild cases), what safe environments look like, what the chances are of new more dangerous variants, how long it will take for global herd immunity, what is happening with animal infections, etc.

Experts said in the beginning...we will always be chasing the pandemic, behind in our knowledge and timing until such point as resolution happens. I'm not sure we are anywhere near complete understanding and resolution, though the immunity and therapeutic tools we have developed are giving us a good chance to make gains.

Some countries have tried zero covid...some have tried herd immunity (with tragic results). We will see what happens with Omicron washing over countries and states in coming weeks...though it will take a while longer to see the impacts on hospitalizations, deaths, and long covid.

Seems to me, without being a virologist or epidemiologist, that currently there are only 'probablies' and 'maybes' and 'best guesses'...and for me I'll continue to try to avoid getting it in the first place. Might not be possible in the long run...just hope it isn't Delta and that whatever variant eventually gets me has weakened enough in severity....and hope that it happens fairly soon after a booster/shot so my immune system can quickly rally. And that the future variant will take it easy on my brain cells that I haven't already endangered one way or another.

[onecaliberal]

18. There are vaccinated people with co-morbidity that are NOT just fine.

Sick of people insinuating this is okay.

[Iggo]

19. It is, and it is.

What’s not popular about that?

Oh, you mean the part about letting huge numbers of people die unnecessarily, just to get it over with. Yeah, for some reason that’s never a popular opinion around here. Go figure.

[Ace Rothstein]

23. Just look through this thread for your answer.

I'm in agreement with you and the OP but most people here aren't. I'm not sure what they think we can do about it at this point though and the government response tells me there isn't much that can be done.

[lagomorph777]

20. No. It's a myth that it's mild.

Also, it's already proven that catching COVID doesn't provide very good immunity afterward.

Nice right-wing talking point though.

[Hekate]

21. When you catch the common seasonal flu, do you become immune? Are you immune to ...

…the common cold?

[Ferrets are Cool]

22. Wouldn't our BEST chance be to ALL get vaccinated?

Seems to be a no brainer to me. Seems to me that your post is awfully close to be a right-wing talking point.