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Nevilledog

(55,115 posts)
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:05 PM Jan 2022

Schools must be open.....kids have to learn!



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SuzannePerez
@SuzPerezICT

BREAKING: Kansas Board of Education votes unanimously to lower requirements for substitute teachers. Beginning tomorrow and through June 1, the state will allow anyone 18+ with a high school diploma (and background check) to work as a substitute. #ksed

9:39 AM · Jan 12, 2022
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jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
1. I'm not really against this as long as they don't include long term substitutes
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:08 PM
Jan 2022

If they use them for a day or two fine. But hopefully will use a certified teacher for anything over a longer time.

Torchlight

(6,993 posts)
4. What political incentive would they have to limit uncertified subs to teaching two days only?
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:12 PM
Jan 2022

ProfessorGAC

(77,135 posts)
12. Count Me As Opposed
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:40 PM
Jan 2022

As someone who, in retirement, substitute teaches, I think this a horrible idea.
Unless they're looking for someone to play babysitter to the kindergartners, a good sub is not just a warm body.

Bev54

(13,501 posts)
3. Seriously flawed
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:11 PM
Jan 2022

Why not have the teacher remote and the kids in school? Then you can have anyone in the classroom to keep order but not to teach.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. What?
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:32 PM
Jan 2022

Triple vaccinated teachers (and they should all be triple vaxxed) are in a far less dangerous situation than the kids in a classroom, and others in the family or community to whom they might spread a virus, even if asymptomatic. Kids under 12 are not yet even approved for boosters.

The teachers are not the ones we need to protect so much as the kids and the communities in which they live.



Bev54

(13,501 posts)
13. The shortage is from teachers being out because of covid
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 09:00 PM
Jan 2022

Many are vaxxed but can still spread it and therefore stay home. If they insist on kids being in school and the teachers are able they can still teach remotely. Our kids are in school and have test kits and KN95 masks. It is the teachers we are having the problems with which is what will cause them all to go back to remote learning. If parents need their children to go to school but there are no teachers then think differently.

dsc

(53,432 posts)
10. because we teachers do get sick with other things from time to time
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:34 PM
Jan 2022

if I am home vomiting my guts out I don't want to have to zoom into my class.

Bev54

(13,501 posts)
14. Well obviously that is not what I meant. If there is a teacher shortage because they are
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 09:02 PM
Jan 2022

isolating because of a positive test with minor symptoms or no symptoms or because they have been around someone who was positive. Our schools have rapid testing and KN95 masks for the kids and it seems everyone wants them in the classroom. Maybe time to think of other alternatives.

BigmanPigman

(55,453 posts)
6. Not "substitute", more like "babysitter".
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:13 PM
Jan 2022

I remember when the district where I was teaching went on strike and a high school student put on a suit, got a briefcase and they let him teach. Then word got out of his real identity and it was on the local news. The strike got tons of parental support after that. I think it helped to end the strike.

 

YP_Yooper

(291 posts)
7. At a larger level, they must lower requirements, especially now
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:18 PM
Jan 2022

I tried to substitute for high school math and science in my district recently to help out (I'm actively volunteering with STEM), and was told I didn't qualify.

I graduated from a top 10 Chemical Engineering school, master level math, physics, chemistry, went on to a Masters.

Apologies, I know more about the subject matter than the teachers I was to sub for, and was told no because of certs and the union's stance...

Now high school grad as a min? Maybe for K-8 for a few days to keep things going, but that seems a bit of a low standard

If it's that bad, maybe go remote until COVID calms down in the school

Tetrachloride

(9,680 posts)
11. Quite. I have been on the periphery of education in my mind for most of my life
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 08:36 PM
Jan 2022

I saw what was expected of substitute teachers. Paperwork, follow the lesson plan.

( don’t make waves)

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