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[FBaggins]

1. No. He can't

"Lots of ways" is pure BS. They hold all the cards.

It is not, in fact, "arguable" how ethical such blackmail would be. It would be both unethical and almost certainly illegal.

[LenaBaby61]

15. So happy ....

And I thank GOD LBJ did do exactly that when it came down to passing Civil Rights legislation, because Blacks probably still wouldn't have the right to vote. The way it appears now, the GQP US Taliban Party, along with that greedy, lying, a moral, pseudo-Dem from WV whose worried about disenfranchising the GQP US Taliban Party and that greedy, two-faced, lying cow from Arizona will allow the GQP to destroy the country, AND take the rest of us right down the drain with them.

Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. The GQP might as well bring back the old rallying cry of George Wallace's from 1963 "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever", for racist whites who opposed to integration and the Civil Rights Movement, because WHEN they get a hold of all 3 branches of government again, the country we know will fail to exist. Who'll stop 'em?

[qazplm135]

2. No

Heck if it would work I'd say go for it, but it wouldn't so the solution is the same as before... vote in two more progressive senators to make them both irrelevant...then primary them.

Once we don't need their votes for anything we don't need them.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

3. If only.

[JohnSJ]

4. Just how can he do that. In West Virginia trump won by 42%. The only thing Biden will accomplish

if he tried some tactic like the OP suggests, is getting a republican elected in West Virgina.

Most important, you can't threaten someone who doesn't care

[Freddie]

5. No he can't

A lot of angry Democrats think he can wave a magic wand and make them cooperate. And say Biden is “ineffective” because he cannot. They’re going to destroy the country and take Biden down with them, and he’s doing all he can to change their minds, but in the end he cannot force them to do the right thing.

[EYESORE 9001]

6. Why not just threaten to murder their families? The Biden administration isn't the fucking mafia.

Ruining their states…JFC! That has to be the most hideous suggestion from anyone on this board in all the years I’ve been a member.

[SCantiGOP]

7. It couldn't happen

And if the President were to use the Federal Government to punish a state for purely political reasons it would be both an impeachable offense and most likely a crime, except Congress and the Courts would block it before it could happen.

[tblue37]

8. Wanna drive them into the Republican Party?

[LiberatedUSA]

9. You want our President to use extortion? N/t

[Silent3]

36. If the only choices left come down to extortion or loss of democracy...

...then yes, I'd want extortion.

[ElementaryPenguin]

44. I agree with you.

I guess that's what would be considered a "tough choice". It's certainly what the autocrats on the other side would do.

Sometimes you have to beat a bully's ass.

That's what stops them.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. I heard a lot in 2020 about how Biden was really great at negotiations. Now is the time.

[JohnSJ]

12. You cannot negotiate with someone who refuses not to compromise on something

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. Huh.

[JohnSJ]

19. Manchin and Sinema have said they will not negotiate on the filibuster removal, and each time they

keep doubling down on that.

That is what I meant by you cannot negotiate with someone who refuses to compromise

[Celerity]

11. No. There is no leverage on either that will work. nt

[inwiththenew]

14. He's the President, not a king or a dictator

What is he going to do? Send them to the gulags? Arrest them on trumped up charges?

[budkin]

16. I don't think he can tbh

Or he would have already done it.

[lagomorph777]

17. He needs to talk a lot about how West Virginians and Arizonans need voting rights...

...and how it would really be a shame if somebody was trying to steal their rights.

[brooklynite]

24. Do they? The counter would be: each State got the candidates they voted for.

Add to which, the average voter isn’t thinking a lot about voting as an issue.

[lagomorph777]

31. Pick some issues they do care about, most of which would be in opposition to SineManchin's positions

Because average voters don't actually want to give away their money and power to the millionaires who control politicians. Put it in terms they will understand, and tell them to call their Senators to demand support.

[Budi]

18. LOL. There isn't a threat he could use that the GQP hasn't got a worse one already used on them.

Biden doesn't have an international criminal organization waiting for his orders.
Don't confuse Biden's power with Trump's

JFC

[WarGamer]

20. oh that's brilliant... flip Manchin and Sinema to Team Mitch. Brilliant!

[Ohio Joe]

21. So... Be a criminal like TFG?

No thanks.

[brooklynite]

22. Ask yourself why "it's so simple" solutions offered by the blogosphere...

…never seem to get implemented by the political experts tasked with implementing them…

[Ocelot II]

23. No, he can't, unless he wants to shit on the Constitution like TDFG did.

[FrankBooth]

25. Sure he can...

All he needs to do is rub his magic unicorn horn 3 times, counterclockwise of course, sprinkle a not too large smattering of fairy dust, and voila -- Manchin and Sinema will dutifully fall into line. If that doesn't work, look up Barbara Eden and see if she can wriggle her nose.

[brooklynite]

32. You're mixing your metaphors...

Barbara Eden blinked. Elizabeth Montgomery wiggled her nose.

[CrackityJones75]

26. Left with the idea

Left with the idea that the point of this post is to create negativity towards biden.

Hey he could do it. He just doesn’t want to. Right? Give me a break.

[Budi]

28. K & R the most overused go-to excuse is "He can just sign an Exec Order!"

It's so simple, when the intent is to blast another neg on Biden message.

Which is all this OP really is. Yes.

[tritsofme]

27. Stop spreading disinformation. This is pure nonsense.

[Budi]

29. Maybe just delete this RW tpt.

[Patton French]

30. Threaten to ruin AZ and WV?

Yeah, that’ll go over well…

[BootinUp]

33. Lol

[Scrivener7]

34. With respect to Manchin, I truly believe someone on the other side has done exactly that to him.

I believe there is something they are holding over him that is making him torpedo all Democratic legislative goals. The "work with republicans" nonsense is just smokescreen.

Sinema, on the other hand, I think is a bit of a nut case.

[lees1975]

38. Sinema's gone when she runs again

She ran on a much more progressive platform, ousting a solid conservative who got beat by the other Democrat. Any Democrat who wants that seat when she's done can have it. She won't pass the primary.

[Scrivener7]

40. But her damage will have been done.

[SoonerPride]

35. No he can't.

They have the power.

Not Biden.

[lees1975]

37. Find out who the weak points are in the GOP and go after them

There are several Republicans who are on the edge, waiting for a way to escape the Trump trap. Put some money out there and see who bites.

[Scrivener7]

42. THIS is the best idea.

[JI7]

39. Your post makes no sense

[aocommunalpunch]

43. Try firing Manchin's wife.

See how he reacts.