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crud

(1,282 posts)
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:32 AM Jan 2022

Sinima has it backwards

The filibuster in it's current form fosters hyper partisanship. There is no need to compromise on anything if the other side needs to get 60 votes.

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Sinima has it backwards (Original Post) crud Jan 2022 OP
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #1
What this guy said BeyondGeography Jan 2022 #2
I think this needs to be Dem talking point crud Jan 2022 #5
McConnell changed it so he could get his extreme right wing judges on the Supreme Court for life Walleye Jan 2022 #3
Now all the judges only need 51 votes with VP. jimfields33 Jan 2022 #9
She believes she's Presidential material rickford66 Jan 2022 #4
I saw that. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2022 #8
It's a tool, and tools can be used or abused, for good or evil unblock Jan 2022 #6
At the bare minimum Bettie Jan 2022 #7

Response to crud (Original post)

Walleye

(45,484 posts)
3. McConnell changed it so he could get his extreme right wing judges on the Supreme Court for life
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:38 AM
Jan 2022

unblock

(56,262 posts)
6. It's a tool, and tools can be used or abused, for good or evil
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jan 2022

A hammer can be used to build a house or crack a skull
A car can be used to get you someplace useful or ram into things

The filibuster used to be used rarely, and then largely harmlessly. It often led to a compromise. Whether that compromise was actually better for the nation is a subject for debate, but it usually had a constructive effect and didn't kill the bill entirely.

Mcturtle changed everything. He has used it way, way, way more than anyone else in the entire history of the senate, and usually simply to prevent democrats from doing anything at all. Usually he doesn't even negotiate for any compromise because what he wants us to prevent democrats from doing anything at all.


And as usual, the media consistently refuses to make republicans pay a price for ruining things. Republicans ruined whatever may have been good about the filibuster by abusing it relentlessly, but the media only blames democrats who are only trying to be productive on behalf of the people.

Bettie

(19,880 posts)
7. At the bare minimum
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:52 AM
Jan 2022

the filibuster shouldn't be able to stop debate.

If they must have it to stop votes, fine, but FFS, DEBATE is the whole point.

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