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Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:56 PM Jan 2022

Has anyone else ever experienced imposter syndrome?

Six months ago, I started my new job and I was super nervous because I'd never been a supervisor before. I wasn't sure if I could do it, despite my employer snapping me up very quickly. The original arrangement was that I'd do mainly offline stuff and provide limited operational support. That went out the window pretty fast, and I got thrown to the wolves helping to run the day shift, which is chaotic and crazy busy at the best of times.

Six months on, I've finally settled in and feel competent, largely thanks to my mentor. She took me under her wing and taught me what I needed to know. Now I think she's being sent to manage another office, and all the signs point to my being the heir apparent. Senior management has said they need me to be the "new [name]" and my boss set up a meeting for Tuesday to "touch base." I strongly suspect the torch is being passed.

And I just don't know if I can do it. The very suggestion is a joke. She has 14x the experience I do, and has forgotten more than I'm ever likely to learn. I feel like I'm right back at square one, uncertain and scared and feeling like a fraud all over again. Has anyone else ever experienced this sort of thing? Any suggestions on what to do?

Edited to Add: I had the meeting with my boss and, sure enough, I'm the heir apparent. My boss didn't commit to a raise at this point, but is going to ask our CEO and let me know. Thanks to all those who responded with advice and kind words, I appreciate it. Right now I'm all panic and no disco even though I suspected it was coming.

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Has anyone else ever experienced imposter syndrome? (Original Post) Jedi Guy Jan 2022 OP
Like the old saying nykym Jan 2022 #1
Thanks for the kind words. :) N/T Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #12
As long as you are willing to work hard and learn from any mistakes you should be fine. chowder66 Jan 2022 #21
All the time. Aristus Jan 2022 #2
That must be utterly terrifying since you literally have lives in your hands. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #5
Thank you. Aristus Jan 2022 #17
Be confident in your skills madwivoter Jan 2022 #3
That's been my experience thus far, yeah. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #7
That's a great attitude... madwivoter Jan 2022 #20
Yes Wicked Blue Jan 2022 #4
Thank you for the vote of confidence! :) N/T Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #14
You need to have an in-depth brain picking. Lars39 Jan 2022 #6
Yeah, we're friends as well as colleagues. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #9
You're in good shape then! Lars39 Jan 2022 #13
Give it a try. Worst you can do is fail Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #8
Here's the irony qazplm135 Jan 2022 #10
I did snowybirdie Jan 2022 #11
Do you mean since this morning? 😄 n/t Silent3 Jan 2022 #15
I think we all have felt that way FelineOverlord Jan 2022 #16
You got this!! For I am an ultimate imposter. I manage a Department of MenloParque Jan 2022 #18
My whole life is basically that. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2022 #19
There's no substitute for experience and it sounds like you have big shoes to fill True Dough Jan 2022 #22
The higher you go, the job requires less and less of the skill that got you recognized. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2022 #23
Every single day from before I ever heard the phrase budkin Jan 2022 #24
Yes XanaDUer2 Jan 2022 #25
On The "Fake It 'Til You Make It" Advice ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #26
I love what qazplm said in post 10. It's very true. You have analyzed this job enough to Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #27
Edited with the outcome... Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #28
I watched my daughter go through that Tree Lady Jan 2022 #29
I had it from the first day on my first job until I retired DavidDvorkin Jan 2022 #30
Your company must see something in you that you don't yet see yourself. Totally Tunsie Jan 2022 #31
As an old retired man I can declare the business world is full of Emile Jan 2022 #32
True Meowmee Jan 2022 #33
You got this Meowmee Jan 2022 #34
Try it and if you still don't feel comfortable JI7 Jan 2022 #35
How many people will you be supervising? Yandex Jan 2022 #36

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
21. As long as you are willing to work hard and learn from any mistakes you should be fine.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:33 PM
Jan 2022

Will your mentor make herself available to you as you ramp up in your new role?

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
2. All the time.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jan 2022

I practice clinical medicine as a Physician Assistant. I've got a pretty good record for favorable clinical outcomes for my patients, and my patients seem to like and trust me.

But I still feel imposter syndrome a lot when I consider that patients are putting their lives in my hands and trusting me with their health.

I did all the training and studying, and passed all my board exams, and I'm licensed to practice clinical medicine.

But I still wonder sometimes who I'm fooling, and how I managed to convince people I was good at practicing medicine.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
5. That must be utterly terrifying since you literally have lives in your hands.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jan 2022

If I screw something up no one's gonna die, so I have that consolation at least. They'll just get super cranky, lol.

Edited to add: Thanks for being on the frontline doing what you do throughout this Covid nightmare. Stay safe!

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
17. Thank you.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:16 PM
Jan 2022

Can't wait until this is all over for real.

I'd just like to be able to take my wife out for a nice dinner without worrying that demented anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers are going to infect either of us.

madwivoter

(539 posts)
3. Be confident in your skills
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:03 PM
Jan 2022

...and fake it 'til you make it

I've experienced a similar situation, I leaned on people that I could learn from and was always honest when I didn't know how to do something.

Having been a manager myself, my mantra is 'you don't know it until you know it'. Cut yourself slack and give yourself time to learn.

Good luck to you, you got this!

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
7. That's been my experience thus far, yeah.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:09 PM
Jan 2022

I defer to people who know more than I do and I'm not afraid to say, "I don't know, but I'll find out and get back to you."

Several times subordinates have stepped in publicly to correct me or answer a question (since it's mostly done in group chat). They often message me privately afterward to apologize for stepping on my toes. I tell them my ego is not at stake here, my toes are fine, and the important thing is that we succeed as a team before thanking them for their help.

Thanks for the advice.

madwivoter

(539 posts)
20. That's a great attitude...
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jan 2022

And likely at least part of the reason you're being tapped for the new role

I've experienced the call-outs in public forums and totally agree with how you're handling it, I have a similar style.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
6. You need to have an in-depth brain picking.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jan 2022

If you have a good relationship, ask her if you can consult with her if you really get in a bind. Ideally the company would keep her handy for a while to make the transition go really smooth. Institutional knowledge is too easy to lose.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
9. Yeah, we're friends as well as colleagues.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jan 2022

And she's made it very clear she'll always be there to support me if I get stuck. I just don't want to be constantly running to her for help since she'll have her own fish to fry.

I don't know yet what a transition period will look like since I only suspect what's going to happen, but she seems certain the torch will pass to me.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
8. Give it a try. Worst you can do is fail
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jan 2022

Negotiate now and say that you'll take the promotion if you can go back to the old job (supervisor) if you fail. They'll agree, and everyone will be more comfortable. Especially you knowing you have a safety net.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
10. Here's the irony
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jan 2022

To feel it, you actually have to be smart enough.

Idiots never feel it, only smart people.

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
11. I did
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jan 2022

every time I stood in front of a group and gave a speech or was interviewed by a reporter. Still felt like that very young, uneducated mom raising a passle of kids. Who would listen to me? As stated here fake it til you make it. You'll be fine

MenloParque

(512 posts)
18. You got this!! For I am an ultimate imposter. I manage a Department of
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:17 PM
Jan 2022

20+ Data Scientists many of whom hold Phd’s. I admit I am nowhere qualified for the title I hold. For the last 30 years I just managed to fake most of what I do. I mostly just walk out of my office every 2 hours laughing, smiling, clapping while yelling You Rock Team!! Hit those Matrices! Then I go back to napping, jumping on my Peloton to get my cardio in, then creating mostly offensive memes for the rest of the day. Don’t worry about it! You Rock!

True Dough

(17,304 posts)
22. There's no substitute for experience and it sounds like you have big shoes to fill
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:34 PM
Jan 2022

That's intimidating for anyone.

But you have to remember that your mentor started somewhere. She was a relative novice at some point herself, but she put in the time and acquired the skills and know-how. That takes years.

Your employer obviously has faith in your abilities.

I'd say give it a try. Don't put too much pressure on yourself. Here's the biggest thing for you to figure out, in my opinion: not whether you're capable of doing the job, but do you truly enjoy the duties and responsibilities, and is it worth it for the compensation you receive? Give it some time to figure that out. But if you dread putting in the hours every day, don't put yourself through that hell long-term. Life is too short.

But, maybe, it will turn out to be up your alley.

All the best!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
23. The higher you go, the job requires less and less of the skill that got you recognized.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:34 PM
Jan 2022

Buy "Business Management for Dummies", or take some business / project management classes at a local community college. You may still not know what you're doing, but you'll speak the language. As a manager, I found that 1) I kept getting yelled at for things I don't control, and 2) at the end of a day, I didn't know if I had a good day or a bad day.

I managed to go back "down" to work that I understood and liked. It made the years more enjoyable until I was able to retire.

Best wishes in your new job.

XanaDUer2

(10,662 posts)
25. Yes
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:36 PM
Jan 2022

Similar to you. I was forced to be a supervisor. I ended up supervising 3 different people due to high turnover. It was a nightmare inside a bigger nightmare. There was so much to know, I couldn't do it.

Best of luck

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
26. On The "Fake It 'Til You Make It" Advice
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 06:19 PM
Jan 2022

That is a good plan for any first time supervisor or manager. As long as......
You openly acknowledge your limitations. That way subordinates will spend more time focusing on your knowledge, skills & abilities within your grasp instead of the gaps.
As long as they know you're winging it until you get better at some things, they'll respect the humility.
If you want suggestions because you're unsure as to the best steps, ask for it. Better than making a poor decision none of them will ever forget.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
27. I love what qazplm said in post 10. It's very true. You have analyzed this job enough to
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 06:52 PM
Jan 2022

understand what is involved and you have an idea where you don't have the same knowledge your mentor has. That's a lot of the battle. You are smart enough to know what you don't know, and you have done so well in your current job that they have faith in you.

Do your best. You will think it is not enough. You will make mistakes, but I suspect you will be fine. You sound like the kind of person who most needs to watch out that he is giving himself enough credit and not worrying himself sick.

I bet you do fine. Take it and try to have fun with it.

Tree Lady

(11,457 posts)
29. I watched my daughter go through that
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 08:44 PM
Jan 2022

She worked up to being a junior manager and employer found major mistake manager caused costing thousands and fired her on the spot leaving my daughter to take over not having learned everything.

I watched her confidence go up and up over the years until now she doesn't think twice about any of it.

I remember first time she had to fire someone. First time for reports she wasn't shown how to do, etc.

What she did was try her hardest, found ways to learn what was needed, from asking other managers, to taking a few classes, to hiring specialized training for herself when needed and going to some. She worked hard, put in extra hours with support from whole family she demanded raises over and over through the years from owner who tried to pay less because she was younger.

Now she is very well paid and has bought into part of large business as her retirement for the future.

And yes mom is very proud of her

DavidDvorkin

(19,475 posts)
30. I had it from the first day on my first job until I retired
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:24 PM
Jan 2022

Being retired is the only "job" I've ever felt properly qualified to do.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
31. Your company must see something in you that you don't yet see yourself.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:31 PM
Jan 2022

Give it a chance, and grow into it. If you weren't trusted, they wouldn't have made you the offer.

Congratulations! I hope there's a sizeable increase in your future!

Emile

(22,708 posts)
32. As an old retired man I can declare the business world is full of
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:45 PM
Jan 2022

phony people blowing smoke up people rear ends! They manage to make a good living doing just that. You on the other hand seem to be trying your hardest to do a good job. Relax, you are going to do just fine!

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
34. You got this
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:51 PM
Jan 2022

At least you care about what you are doing and will do the best job you can. There is always a learning curve.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
35. Try it and if you still don't feel comfortable
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:56 PM
Jan 2022

and don't feel like much improvement is being made just ask to go back into previous position.

You should try staying there for a year and at least 6 months though.

They must think you are fit for it based on how you picked up the job during previous changes.

 

Yandex

(273 posts)
36. How many people will you be supervising?
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 11:10 PM
Jan 2022

Would you be a front-line supervisor, or will there be someone between you and the work force?

My first job as a supervisor I had about 12-15 workers under me as things would fluctuate. Then I moved up to supervise the people who had my old supervisor job. That meant I would have about 100 people under me! Man I was freaked out! I was panicked. It is a scary thing.

Then I realized that all I really had to do was manager/supervise the 7-8 front line supervisors directly under me. I just made sure that they did their job and they made sure the people under them did their jobs. Occasionally I had to deal with problems, had to fire people, fill in here and there, etc. Longer hours, more responsibility. I really couldn't go out and party it up at night. I needed to be alert in the morning. A mid-level supervisor or above is really a supervisor 24/7. You may get calls off hours, you have to be available to your people and maybe help them solve their work problems. Being one level removed from the actual work does help to lessen the emotional involvement with your workplace.

I came to LOVE being a supervisor and wished I had taken on all that responsibility sooner in my life. I wasn't actually doing the work or producing the product. I was just supervising the people that were.

I often wonder how a president feels on his/her first day....2 million federal employees under him! They must be freaked out! BUT they have a number of levels under them, and all the president has to do is manage his/her 12-15 cabinet secretaries for the most part.

Take the job! You'll be fine, more than fine! You will grow to love it. Lots of hours and responsibility but that's good for you. Your feelings of "imposterism" are valid, we all get that....unless someone is a sociopath of course...so...you're human!

GO FOR IT!!

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