Trump telling PA GOP to steal the next election

[Nevilledog]

Link to tweet

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski

Trump tells PA GOP why he is placing an emphasis on Supervisor of Elections races in 22: “We have to be a lot sharper the next time when it comes to counting the vote .. Sometimes the vote counter is more important than the candidate. They have to get a lot tougher and smarter.”


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7:14 AM · Jan 15, 2022

[Emile]

1. When in hell are they going to arrest this idiotic fruit cake?

[SCantiGOP]

26. The first guy to use this quote died in office

after millions died when he was in office:

Joseph Stalin 1879–1953
Soviet dictator
I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.

[onenote]

35. Debunked. Stalin never said it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/10/fact-check-quote-vote-counting-misattributed-joseph-stalin/6190020002/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/mar/27/viral-image/no-joseph-stalin-didnt-say-statement-about-electio/

[Crunchy Frog]

48. Attribution right here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BeschlossDC/status/1481743299576840199

"I consider it completely unimportant who in the Party will vote, or how. But what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.” Joseph Stalin, 1923 (as quoted in “Oxford Essential Quotations, 2017)

Apparently from a memoir by Stalin's personal secretary.

[2naSalit]

2. A clear and present danger...

Should be sequestered without communication NOW.

[KS Toronado]

43. AMEN to that

All IQ4.5 knows is lying, cheating, & stealing

[NutmegYankee]

3. in other words:

"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."

[Frustratedlady]

4. I hope the DOJ is ready to start rolling more indictments out. If we can't vote for voters' rights,

we need to lock up as many as we can so they can't screw up the 2022/2024 elections.

SDNY, did you hear that? Can you at least work on the cases at your end?

Locking up the king snake may scare the others into doing what's right so we can get the show on the road and get back to truly making this country great again..

[CrispyQ]

5. IMO, until we get legislation passed, our elections are going to be clusterfucks from here on out,

starting with 2022. They are playing for keeps & they have zero ethics or scruples. They also have the MSM on their side.

[dalton99a]

6. Yep, buy your own referee and you win

[Submariner]

7. An in your face High Treason terroristic threat

worthy of a cell at Leavenworth Super Max.

[maxsolomon]

39. also vague and indirect

"get tougher and smarter"? WTF does that mean?

we know what he means, but that's not what he said, and that mob-boss elliptical language keeps it from being prosecutable.

[jmowreader]

40. Leavenworth and Supermax are different prisons

I would prefer Florence because it’s all-solitary confinement and he won’t get the chance to corrupt the minds of the other people on his cell block, but Leavenworth would also be fine.

The ideal situation would be to put the entire bunch on one of those islands in the Pacific we used as an airfield during World War II, without any form of communication, and assign four Navy destroyers to keep people away from it. We could go all Dirty Dozen and make them build their own housing.

[Tickle]

8. Biden commented

on the counter to. I don't get it why both sides talk about the "counter". I'm not trying to bring legitimacy to tfg but I do polling work for my town. I am 100% sure that there is no cheating. I don't know how you could cheat. When voting is done we stay and count in 4 different columns. ballets out, ballets used, number of people who voted for dem ind writein and rep have to equal the ballets used.

Plus we do require ID of some sort

[PortTack]

11. Thx for the informed insight! You laid it out clearly, it's very hard to cheat..and not get caught

This is where the m$m boogie man comes in ranting for ratings. They want us to be afraid so we tune in for details!! Gawd I hate them.

Even Robert Reich made a utube clip about how the media does this. Now, having said that, I’m not being Pollyanna, but realistic

Action is key VOLUNTEER, DONATE, VOTE!!!

[Tickle]

14. Yes! spot on!

worth repeating
VOLUNTEER
DONATE
VOTE

[PortTack]

16. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

[Lonestarblue]

30. The issue may focus more on mail ballots than voting in person.

Unless the partisan counters have access to voting machine programs, it’s hard to cheat. But with mail ballots, there are ways for the counter to cheat. One change in the recent Texas voter suppression laws relates to checking signatures. In the past, election clerks had to check the signature on the mail ballot against a signature no more than six years old, presumably because people must renew a driver’s license every six years. Republicans changed this requirement to allow matching of signatures as much as thirty years old. I can look today at my signature from thirty years ago and see differences, as our handwriting changes as we age. Plus, some people tend to hurriedly scrawl signatures without worrying that it might not match an “official” signature at some point in the future. That change opens the door to partisan clerks calling a signature mismatch and throwing out the ballot.

Another way to cheat is to find a minor mistake on a mail ballot but hold it until near electionnday to prevent the voter from having time to fix the error. Another Republican trick is for the permanent election staff to deliberately enter an error into the system from a new voter registration form. By changing a middle initial or changing the spelling of a name slightly, when the voter may have to cast a provisional ballot that is never counted.

And of course there was Brian Kemp’s trick of just not processing around 50,000 voter applications until after the election. We need completely independent elections staff that are not partisan to either political party.

[CrackityJones75]

34. You do this work and count ballets?

Ballets?

[Tickle]

42. I work the polls

we document everything. The ballets all need to be counted correctly. We have to stay while they important people (lol) count stuff up and may have a question if the numbers don't add up

[PortTack]

9. I have thought all along he isn't going to run...this doesn't look like someone who is planning on

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Not running

He really is just so transparent...he just can’t help but broadcast his crimes and his evil intentions

[Nevilledog]

10. Why wouldn't he? Is not like there are negative consequences.

[PortTack]

12. His niece at first said he wouldn't..to much risk to his ego. She has since changed her mind

She still says he has to believe it’s a slam dunk win for him

[bluesbassman]

13. Based on his last transaction it's all "win-win" in his mind.

The MSM treated him like a demigod in ‘15 and he raked in the cash and brand recognition, the two things he values most. He had no intention, or desire, of winning, yet he won and the cash and brand recognition skyrocketed. Plus he found, with the aid of some twisted Constitutional interpretationists, that he was legally untouchable. So moving forward he has no reason to think it all won’t happen again.

[PortTack]

17. Key..."in his mind."

[bluesbassman]

18. Yes, such as it is...

[spanone]

15. His coup of America has never stopped. Now he is encouraging election theft at the local level.

a coup is a coup is a coup is a coup.

[Nevilledog]

19. Yup....and they're not changing election administration laws for shits and giggles.

[keithbvadu2]

20. Keep counting.

Gangs of New York

[LENNY0229]

21. How come this deranged orange CROOK isn't wearing an orange suit to match his face?

[AZLD4Candidate]

22. Did he just paraphrase Joseph Stalin?

[onenote]

36. Debunked. Stalin never said it.

Several posters here seem to have bought into the fake claim (started by Republicans after Biden won Pennsylvania) that Stalin said something along these lines.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/mar/27/viral-image/no-joseph-stalin-didnt-say-statement-about-electio/

Of course, Trump might have seen those stories and believed them.

[LudwigPastorius]

23. If this anti-American, traitorous pig is ever allowed near the levers of government again,..

maybe we're collectively too stupid to continue as a country.

[SCantiGOP]

24. Does he know he is quoting Stalin?

Here is the quote from that great leader, Joseph Stalin:

Joseph Stalin 1879–1953
Soviet dictator
I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.

[Nevilledog]

25. Like this moron would know who Stalin is.

[SCantiGOP]

28. We know that he read Mein Kampf

So Stalin might have been one of his other role models.

[Nevilledog]

29. He owned the book. No one can convince me he actually read it.

Unless it was an audio book.

[EleanorR]

33. He did the same when he called a free press the enemy of the people

I'm guessing that's Putin's influence.

Stalin — as an imaginary rather than actual historical figure, the embodiment of an idea of order and justice — is at the core of Russian perceptions of the glorious past. The Kremlin has done nothing to halt the creeping rehabilitation of Stalin; in fact, it is happy to encourage the cliches of Soviet success wherever it can.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/08/facing-dim-present-putin-turns-back-glorious-stalin/

[onenote]

37. Fake quote - Stalin never said it.

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https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/mar/27/viral-image/no-joseph-stalin-didnt-say-statement-about-electio/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/10/fact-check-quote-vote-counting-misattributed-joseph-stalin/6190020002/

[Ford_Prefect]

27. He cannot run for office from a Federal or NY State cell, nor from a work farm in GA.

He's scared to death that's where he'll be. He's an expert liar and he's sweating right now. Remember when Ghouliani had his "wardrobe malfunction"? That moment is coming for DJT and sooner than he thinks.

[SCantiGOP]

31. Actually, he could

Unless he is disqualified under the 14th Amendment.
Eugene Debs ran for President on the Socialist Party ticket in the early 20th Century from his jail cell.

[Ford_Prefect]

45. He cannot participate in person nor by any media or paltform

as those would be denied him as a prisoner. Someone would have to represent him as a proxy. No speeches, no communicating with campaign staff, none of that which gives him oxygen.

He'd have to be paroled or pardoned, neither of which seem likely. No matter how much he and his enablers may say it will happen, It won't.

If we entertain the fear of it rather than take steps to actually win, that is if we worry ourselves into defensive rather than outspoken campaigning then the GOP will win.

His niece has been saying he'll fold like a wet paper bag once he's charged and arrested. He is not personally brave. He's a bully who cannot deal with losing at anything.

[SCantiGOP]

47. Agree

Eugene Debs campaigned by sending letters to supporters (most newspapers wouldn’t cover him) and his campaign never had a chance anyway.
He ran 6 times, and got 6% in 1912 and then got his 10 year sentence for sedition.
If Trump could win from prison I guess he could try pardoning himself.

[Ford_Prefect]

49. I will say I worry about what paths the RW Dark Money will take to continue their insurrection.

[Tommymac]

32. I live in PA I have been an elected majority inspector in several polling places. Here's my opinion.

In Red Counties they are going to vote rethug.

In Blue Counties they are going to vote mostly Democratic.

And in all polling places I have worked in it is pretty much the same. (I also delivered lunch and supplies to several dozen polling places as part of the Kerry Ground Game on election day 2004 so I have seen a lot of how they all operate.)

And at most polling places the Supers median age is somewhere south of the 1950's. And they have protoge's who have been waiting in the wings since 1969.

No one runs for these spots because they (the regulars) are appointed by the county/town/city board.

There are both minority and majority inspectors in all polling places too. Plus lately both parties have had volunteer attorneys either as official poll watchers or on call to all polling sites. The supervisor does not operate in a vacuum.

I think PA's system is solid, the folks who run the polls are all older and have lots of integrity as far as their responsibilities go. Kinda like the guy in GA.

This does not scare me at all, at least in PA.

Our legislature on the other hand is being run by RW wackos, has been for years. But as long as we have a Democratic Governor PA will be ok.

[paleotn]

38. He's a student of Stalin.

[bucolic_frolic]

41. PA inundated with hedge fund money for local elections

My guess is that's how DFP turned PA in 2016.

[liberalmediaaddict]

44. He should be banned from holding public office

And needs to be criminally charged if he keeps trying to interfere with our elections and incite violence

[FakeNoose]

46. This is great news! Next time Chump sets foot anywhere in Pennsylvania

... our Attorney General Josh Shapiro can have him arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit election fraud. That would look awesome on Shapiro's resume, since he's now RUNNING for GOVERNOR!