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This is what the world was like before childhood vaccinations. (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Jan 2022 OP
K&R MustLoveBeagles Jan 2022 #1
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2022 #2
True story, BC! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #3
I visited the family plot at the cemetery with my grandmother and saw all the tiny stones Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #4
My maternal grandmother wnylib Jan 2022 #5
My grandmother only had one brother, but their mother died when they were 13 and 8 in 1913 Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #7
My maternal great-grandmother had 10 children, wnylib Jan 2022 #9
Walk thru any old cemetery from that time and... 3catwoman3 Jan 2022 #6
Many children died of cholera.... SergeStorms Jan 2022 #8
Yellow fever, too. My mother had 8 siblings in the 1920's -- yellow fever killed all but 3 within Nay Jan 2022 #10
I guess that's why they had so many kids. SergeStorms Jan 2022 #12
I can't imagine losing five children, wow! Emile Jan 2022 #11
The average life expectancy hasn't changed much Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #13
Lots of pioneer graveyards in the Upper Midwest NickB79 Jan 2022 #14

Rhiannon12866

(205,927 posts)
4. I visited the family plot at the cemetery with my grandmother and saw all the tiny stones
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:58 AM
Jan 2022

Her grandmother gave birth to 14 children, but only 6 lived to grow up.

wnylib

(21,589 posts)
5. My maternal grandmother
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:04 AM
Jan 2022

gave birth to 8 children and 7 lived to grow up. My mother almost didn't make it since she was a slightly less than 7 months preemie. (Her mother died a few hours later.)

My paternal great-grandmother gave birth to 10 children. 8 survived.

Rhiannon12866

(205,927 posts)
7. My grandmother only had one brother, but their mother died when they were 13 and 8 in 1913
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:11 AM
Jan 2022

So my grandmother spent a lot of time with her paternal grandmother and her job was trimming the grass at their cemetery plot, so she took me there to see it. I still remember all the names, not one of the girls survived, but the one that got to me the most were the twins, Robert and LeRoy. They share the same stone.

wnylib

(21,589 posts)
9. My maternal great-grandmother had 10 children,
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:40 AM
Jan 2022

the first 8 born in Germany and the last two in America, which she proudly noted in her Bible. (Karl and Minnie sind in Amerika geboren.)

She died young, when her last child was just a toddler. The oldest girl was 13 and took over her mother's duties and responsibilities in the household. Times were rough back then.

My paternal grandmother had 9 children. All but the last one were born at home on a farm with a midwife attending. All of them lived. No miscarriages, either.

So I had oodles of aunts, uncles, great aunts and great uncles, first and second cousins. We could have started our own village. Combined family events, like weddings, required a LOT of space.

3catwoman3

(24,035 posts)
6. Walk thru any old cemetery from that time and...
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:11 AM
Jan 2022

…you will see many family site with half a dozen or more tiny headstones. People did not expect that all their children would live.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
8. Many children died of cholera....
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:21 AM
Jan 2022

pneumonia, dysentery, measles....any number of diseases that ran rampant before modern sewage treatment and storm drains.

I used to be the genealogist for Mount Hope Cemetery in Rochester, NY. That's where Frederick Douglass is buried, along with Susan B. Anthony and many other late 19th century and early 20th century notables.

I was always amazed at the number of young children that never made it past 5 years. The number of mothers that died during childbirth as well. So sad. Life was excruciatingly difficult back then. 😪

Nay

(12,051 posts)
10. Yellow fever, too. My mother had 8 siblings in the 1920's -- yellow fever killed all but 3 within
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 08:36 AM
Jan 2022

the space of about a month. I have no idea how you'd survive the deaths of 6 children at once.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
12. I guess that's why they had so many kids.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jan 2022

At least they'd get a few that lived until adulthood.

The poor women were treated as nothing less than brood mares, pumping out children one after another. They often died during childbirth, but the man would find another woman to tend to his children and pump a few more out.

This "birth of a nation" crap was built atop the bodies of millions of women and children. 😢.

Phoenix61

(17,018 posts)
13. The average life expectancy hasn't changed much
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:15 AM
Jan 2022

Prior to vaccines and antibiotics if you made it past the age of 5 odds were good you’d make it to sixty.

NickB79

(19,258 posts)
14. Lots of pioneer graveyards in the Upper Midwest
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jan 2022

There was one near our farm in Minnesota. Lots of children buried there. Even as a teenager I noticed that, and figured out the root cause from simple logic.

Life has as HARD before modern medicine and science. People would be wise to remember that.

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