For those rooting for Omicron to take over rural areas

[xmas74]

Keep in mind you're rooting against many people, myself included. I'm vaxxed and boosted. I wear a mask and socially distance. That doesn't stop everything.

On December 28,2021 I had a transvaginal ultrasound. I'd had some post menopausal bleeding and sharp lower back pain. The ultrasound showed a heavy endometrial build up and a 14 cm mass on my left ovary. Blood work a few days later showed some nasty results. The suspicion? Ovarian cancer.

The hospitals are filling up with anti vaxxers who now have covid. The beds are full. This means physicians are postponing surgeries unless absolutely necessary. My hysterectomy is one if those surgeries.

I'm 47. My child lost their father six years ago to a heart attack. Rooting for Omicron is a slap in the face. It feels like people are rooting for my death and for my child to become an orphan

I have enough people in real life proving they don't give a damn on a daily basis. They throw tantrums about vaccinations, they refuse to wear masks or social distance. They make comments about "survival of the fittest". It makes me feel worthless on a regular basis.

I've been a member of DU for nearly 18 years. Please don't pile on the hatred and root for covid. It further ostracizes me in any community in general. It makes me feel that I'm not welcome and I don't belong in a community where I was once warmly welcomed.

[MLAA]

1. I'm rooting for you and all the Rural Vaxxed / Boosted Dems.

You make such an excellent point.

[xmas74]

3. I think people forget

It's isn't just about covid. The covid patients overrun our health care system and leave the rest of us without resources.

[brer cat]

8. You need surgery very soon and I hope it will happen for you.

Ovarian is not friendly about waiting. I wish you good luck and blessings as go through this. There are many of us on DU who do care.

[xmas74]

10. Ovarian doesn't play games.

It's nasty and I just want answers soon.

[ColinC]

2. If you are vaxxed, you are very very unlikely to die, let alone go to the hospital

I'm not rooting for covid to win, but at the end of the day those who triple vax vs those who don't are exponentially more likely to fend it off with limited trouble, than not. Get vaxxed and boosted and encourage everybody around you to do the same. Maga people might talk loudly against the vaccine but often if somebody close to them is convincing enough, that might do the trick.

[xmas74]

5. The point is that those not vaxxed

Are taking over the hospital, clogging up the beds and leaving the rest of us out to dry.

Surgeries have been postponed, even for those who are fully vaxxed. Rooting for covid to rampage these communities means also rooting for the possible side effects, including death,of those who did what they needed and are affected by the actions of others.

[ColinC]

11. Exactly. Which is why it's so important to make sure everybody close to us is vaxxed

That could make a huge difference.

I've gotten quite a few supposed anti vaxxers vaxxed just by speaking frankly with them. Not everybody, but quite a few.

[captain queeg]

14. Yes I saw the numbers for my county. It showed 97% of beds filled a couple days ago.

I wouldn’t call my area rural but neither is it urban. However it seems like most folks around here are masked and mostly vaxxed. I don’t think anyone is rooting for omicron, they just get pissed off when they see people ignoring the warnings. Rightly so, it is very selfish. My governor issued notice that all elective and non-emergency surgeries be delayed temporarily. It does sound like ICUs are less impacted this time but I don’t think we’ve peaked yet. New infections doubled in the county past week. Also it seems that a number of new infections were caught while in the hospital for something else which is pretty discouraging.

[Texin]

78. Is it possible for you to go to a medical center in a larger metropolitan area within

close enough proximity to make it feasible?

[xmas74]

83. I was already scheduled at a larger cancer center

The initial surgery would be at the hospital affiliated w the center. The hospital isn't scheduling surgeries due to the large influx of covid patients. The patients take over not just ICU but med surg, where I would otherwise heal after the surgery.

[wnylib]

55. You are totally overlooking

vulnerable populations as if they don't matter. There are many people who will end up hospitalized or die from omicron because they have compromised immune systems due to cancer treatments, transplant surgery, or have diabetes, are pregnant, have AIDS, or are over 65. If you think that seniors are expendable, consider our Democratic president who is pushing 80 and our House Speaker who IS in her 80s and doing an exceptional job.

That's what the OP is saying. People who are vaxxed, boosted, younger than 65, and consider themselves in good health keep repeating that the omiclcron variant is no big deal. Well, it IS a big deal for vulnerable people. They are the vaccinated ones on respirators, dying in hospitals, along with the unvaccinated. When you discount them with claims that omicron is no big deal for the vaxxed and boosted, you are discounting them as expendable and not worth considering.

A person needing surgery is vulnerable even if vaxxed and boosted. When they are recovering from surgery, they are weak while their immune systems work overtime to repair and heal. Add a disease like covid, even if a mild case, and you overtax their immune systems.

I spoke with a local hospital nurse earlier today when I encountered her in a store. She said that they are getting vaccinated people every day to put on ventilators because they are cancer patients who would otherwise live to go in remission if covid did not exist. Some are very young. She is caring for grandmothers and grandfathers whose grandchildren will not get to know them because people are recklessly saying, "It's only omicron. Nothing to worry about if you are vaccinated and boosted." For some people, it is a LOT to worry about. But society has become callused and indifferent to them.

[ColinC]

60. I'm not though. You can reread what I wrote.

The very reason we need to be encouraging everybody to be vaccinated is for those vulnerable populations.

[Maru Kitteh]

82. Are you thick enough to believe Red state Dems are NOT encouraging everybody

to be vaccinated? You think we're just sitting on our asses out here going "Oh well."????

What a bunch of shit. We are doing everything right, and facing both dire consequences in our own lives and the cruelty of sodders who should be our friends and expect us to be their allies.

[ColinC]

99. Um. The fact you think my post was disregarding people's lives

Is proof you think red state Dems are likely not encouraging every single person to get vaxxed.

Are you intentionally trying to misunderstand what I said?


I have maga friends and family that live in red states. I have convinced many of them to be vaxxed in ways their democratic friends and families actually living in those state did not.

[Maru Kitteh]

102. Here's a fact. You are trying to wiggle out of the impossible position you

placed yourself in - without grace.

[ColinC]

103. Heres a fact. Not nearly enough people have been vaccinated.

And you are trying to argue we shouldn't convince people to be vaccinated. Why?

My position is that we must do everything in our power to continue getting our friends, family and neighbors vaccinated. Do you honestly disagree?

[Maru Kitteh]

104. Bullshit. You are untruthful about my post. I said no such thing. You have implied

that Red State Democrats are not promoting vaccination.

AS A VACCINE PROVIDER, I HAVE PERSONALLY PUSHED MY LONG-TERM CARE FACILITY TO A VAX RATE OF 96% FUCKING PERCENT IN AN AREA WHERE ONLY 39% OF THE ELIGIBLE POPULATION IS VACCINATED. OVER 200 EMPLOYEES AND COUNTLESS FAMILY MEMBERS PLUS 100% OF OUR RESIDENTS.

WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE LATELY?

I'm busy working from home after a 68-hour work week and have no more time to school you. Feel free to carry on without me.

[ColinC]

106. Thank you for everything you are doing.

What I will do is continue to convince everybody I know to be vaccinated on a regular basis, so that hopefully the impact to areas that are suffering the most will eventually have some relief.

Thank you again for your hard work and dedication.

[Whiskeytide]

4. Sorry to hear of your situation. Sending good vibes your way. There are ...

… simply a handful of assholes here who like to broad-brush other groups without thought and with very little self reflection. Being from Alabama I know it too well. Please don’t let it get you down.

[xmas74]

6. It's tough sitting here day after day

Wondering if I get that next step in treatment or not.

[spooky3]

31. Is there any way that you could be admitted in a neighboring

Hospital where there are fewer cases? Here in VA there are variations in how full the hospitals are, and my guess is that’s true in other states.

In any case I wish you the best and thank you for making a very good point.

[xmas74]

43. Missouri is mostly full

Besides, the hospital also has to accept my insurance

[spooky3]

48. I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you get good news soon. Nt

[Smackdown2019]

52. In my area of Missouri

I am in the Ozarks and the funeral parlors are busy. Ambulances are racing every day and schools are having issues keeping teachers staffed. Even a close friends family has it and they are vaccinated. It's going get serious quick

[SWBTATTReg]

80. Be safe down there, my former neighbors and some family still live in Lebanon MO, Neosho, ...

Joplin...at least they all can hibernate, keep away from others for the most part, but still, I worry.

[chowder66]

7. I don't understand rooting for anyone to get this.

I guess people are just so fed up that broad-brushing is the easy route to vent frustration.

I fall under broad-brushed groups at times but I try not to take it too personally.
I am compromised and we, the elderly, the disabled, the underserved and unvaccinated children are disposable to some.
It's pretty crass and telling... but there are more people than not that care.

[xmas74]

9. When I hear it in my own community

And then read it multiple times here and all over social media it's hard to see it otherwise.

[chowder66]

12. I hear it too but there are more people that don't feel that way.

When I get frustrated I back off of social media and DU for a while then come back when things settle down.

I do sometimes pop onto twitter and into the DU Lounge during those periods for cute and funny animal videos. : )

[BlackSkimmer]

17. There are more than a few here who seem to enjoy the misfortune of others.

I hope they’re trolls. DU used to be better than this.

[chowder66]

18. Agreed. nt

[ProfessorGAC]

22. Specifically When?

I've been here 20+ years.
I don't have the slightest recollection of this being a "better than that" place.
People come hear to vent.
If the venting of some posters causes one discomfort, one might be in the wrong place.

[BlackSkimmer]

24. Ha, I've been here a long time too.

I don’t consider glee at others’ suffering to be “venting.” YMMV.

[ProfessorGAC]

26. Got It!

You can't address the question as to when DU had the glorious past you long for.
Because your reply has nothing to do with what I asked.

[BlackSkimmer]

34. Lol.

I don’t answer on command.

All the best hon.

[Rabrrrrrr]

66. I'm with you, professor - I don't remember any glory day when nothing negative

about anyone was said here on DU.

I have no memory of a constant barrage of only positive thoughts for good health and long life for Dubya, Rove, Cheney, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Rumsfeld, and all the other war criminals and generators of evil back in the day.

DU has always been a place to vent safely, and allow ourselves to say the things we'd likely not say in a public forum or at church or in a letter to the editor, and so on.

[Random Boomer]

67. You're looking back with rose-colored glasses

DU hasn't changed for the worse, it's always had an anti-rural bias. Posters feel perfectly comfortable making scathingly dismissive comments about the rural poor that they would never make about urban poor people.

We may live in the city now, but my wife grew up in poverty-stricken Appalachia. She's very attuned to the constant belittlement and derision aimed at that section of the country, blanket condemnations of all who live there.

[ms liberty]

69. This. Rural areas in general, the South in particular.

I think there were some rather contentious threads about it back in the day, probably when we had the Meta Forum!

[appalachiablue]

84. 'Amazon Echo for Southerners' for anyone who

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missed it, the howls and snark went on for several days. There was also a Senior Echo, yet nothing for Ca, the West Coast, Midwest, North, NE.

[ms liberty]

70. This. Rural areas in general, the South in particular.

I think there were some rather contentious threads about it back in the day, probably when we had the Meta Forum!

[BlackSkimmer]

93. You're spot on. nt

[SayitAintSo]

76. Amen ... DU used to be a lot better than this

Too many folks promoting division, undemocratic illiberal policy, mocking death of non vaxxed, etc. Biden was against mandates, before he supported them. Anyone remember that? Does anybody else see what's happening to us?

[MichMan]

92. Sad to see isn't it ?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16255474

[NH Ethylene]

108. I don't understand it either.

I've been staying away from DU more lately because of all the hate. Personally, I am somewhat indifferent. I try not to get stressed about things I can't change. And people who have not gotten the vaccine by this time are not going to change their minds. The chips are falling and we just have to deal with it.

I'm just hoping for a Covid break soon.

[LaMouffette]

13. I'm so sorry to read of your diagnosis, xmas74! I wish you the best possible outcome.

It is absolutely outrageous that something as important as a hysterectomy must be postponed.

I also want to thank you for your post. I had been putting off making an appointment for symptoms I've been having for months. I finally made the appointment, but have been wavering about following through and actually going. Your post has made me decide to keep the appointment and get my symptoms checked out. Thank you!

[xmas74]

15. Don't put it off

Anything out of the ordinary needs to be checked immediately. I thought I was young for some cancers and it probably wasn't a big deal. When I saw Jillian Owens recently passed from ovarian at age 39 and she said it came on quick-I knew I needed to get it checked. (She had a blog about sustainable refashioning of clothes frome thrift store finds. https://refashionista.net/ )
I hope it's all in time.

[BlackSkimmer]

16. It's really sad. When Covid ravaged the south, there were numerous "hell yeah" threads.

When vaxxed states like those in New England suddenly had a surge, I saw none of that.

It’s really disgusting to see.

[xmas74]

19. Thank you

I'm in the Midwest and the threads pop up every few days.

[BlackSkimmer]

20. I know. I've gotten used to the south bashing. It's always the same posters.

Hey, take care. Thinking of you.

[xmas74]

21. Thank you nt

[SouthernDem4ever]

42. I live in the South and it deserves some bashing

for voting in a bunch of idiots that are going to attempt to invalidate our democracy, present company excluded, I would hope.

[BlackSkimmer]

44. Yeah, all those other states had nothing to do with it.

Pfft.

[EllieBC]

116. That's because there's trash in all political groups.

It’s not reserved for Repukes. Plenty o’ trash on this side too.

[BlackSkimmer]

117. Oh yeah.

Preach!

[mahina]

23. Completely agree. We can't root against our own people.

Really not against anyone. Root against the ignorance and hatred, not against the human. Otherwise we become the evil. Never.

Good luck OP!

[Hekate]

25. I am so sorry. I hope you can get the care you need asap. With so many of my own family...

… being refusniks and now coming down sick, coming here to DU on some days virtually feels like a betrayal.

I am angry too, and have written things here I probably shouldn’t have. But do I wish for whole groups to get sick? No.

Last I heard, the Central Valley (rural as all get-out) in California was being hit pretty hard, and their hospitals were full enough that Fresno was contacting Los Angeles about sending overflow patients to them. Needless to say, LA has its own troubles, just on a much larger scale.

I am practically numb by now. I would like to know if those military field-hospital tents could be reserved for COVID patients, so surgeons and obstetricians could get back to their own necessary jobs. There is nothing “elective” or “postponable” about the kind of surgery you need.

All the best to you and your family. May this be resolved soon.

[TallMike]

111. Well,

I cant say that I ever actually heard anyone say, nor read about anyone wishing covid upon rural areas, I will say that as a resident of a very red and rural area of california, we are totally fucked. Local hospital is putting covids in hallways, conference rooms etc while still allowing elective surgeries. Because, y'know, insurance money pays the bills. Good ol Catholic health services...

[leftieNanner]

27. Not rooting for Omicron anywhere!

I was in a similar situation. Had my hysterectomy postponed (for the same reasons) in August. There was a break in the hospitalizations in October, so I could get the surgery. I'm hoping the same for you.

I found a very valuable resource at hystersisters.com

Wishing you the best results and recovery.

[louslobbs]

28. ❤️

Thank you. Routing for your full recovery.

[AverageOldGuy]

29. AMEN!!!!

Preach it, sister, preach it!!

I live in a deep red rural Virginia county where most folks are not wearing masks; where at the grocery or the hardware, I am mocked sometimes for wearing a mask.

My county has gone from 2-3 cases per day in early December to 11-15 per day this past week.

I'm the captain of a local volunteer rescue squad. In the past two weeks we have averaged three rescue calls per day and EVERY CALL WE HAVE RUN IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS has been "difficulty breathing," every one COVID positive, all but four admitted, some of those admitted are now in ICU or transported to medical center in Richmond.

The Republican jackasses who surround me do not need any encouragement to endanger my life.

[Texasgal]

30. Nobody should be rooting FOR covid!

That's ridiculous!

I am so sorry that you are dealing with these issues. I'm hoping that you are able to get the healthcare you need very soon. I'm disgusted that you've had to read about any rooting FOR covid. That is so disappointing and quite frankly a sick thing to be said here on DU!

UGH.

[piddyprints]

32. Thank you, xmas.

I live in a rural area as well. While I don’t currently need surgery, I worry about unexpected health events because our hospitals are full. No matter what the problem is, everyone has to wait in the ER for 2 days. So even if you don’t have Covid when you get there, you will likely have it when (and if) you leave.

I am so sorry for your situation and hope you can get your needed surgery and have a good outcome.

Seems like people forget that blue dots live in very rural and red areas.

[BeckyDem]

33. No one should be rooting for that.

You be well and all best wishes for a full recovery. The stress sounds off the charts!

[IronLionZion]

35. I don't think anyone here is rooting for Omicron

it's more of an observation that these waves are regional. Cities have stricter measures for vaccines and masks and the virus is running out of new people to infect. So many predict numbers will shift to other regions. It's also seasonal with cold places in winter and warm places in summer. So many cold rural places are getting bad now.

[bluecollar2]

36. No rooting for Omicrod here

Just encouraging the deniers to get together as often as possible.

[Liberty Belle]

37. Make noise. Call your insurance company, doctor, hospital. Threaten a lawsuit; your life is at stake

unlike others who are mostly just inconvenienced.

Potential ovarian cancer should NOT be considered elective surgery. Tell them your heirs have directions to sue everyone responsible for this if you don't make it due to the delay. If need be, get a lawyer to follow up with a letter on letterhead.

You could also ask your insurer to send you out of network to a different hospital under these circumstances.

My provider sent me out of network when there was a year-long wait for surgery needed to protect my visiion (one doctor had left and the other was backlogged).

I hope you can get the procedure soon. I don't think anybody here wants to see vaxxed and boosted people suffer with COVID, though this is frustration against anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

[Dorian Gray]

38. Jeez

Who is rooting for that? I’m sorry if you e seen posts like that. We are turning on the east coast but the last month has been super stressful. I wouldn’t wish this on anybody. (And we have thus far escaped infection!).

[Skittles]

39. thank you

it is also disrespectful to the medical workers to wish for ill health on anyone

wishing the best for you xmas74, we are here for you

[sky_masterson]

40. Sorry to hear that, B.

:hugs:

[airmid]

41. I am rural, vaxxed and boosted. I don't root for anyone's death. I prefer to root for

enlightenment for those who need it. Will it happen? Probably not. I am still not going to wish death on others.

[LENNY0229]

87. These anti vaxxers will NEVER be "enlightened". If they CHOOSE to not vax and die, then OH WELL.

[LoisB]

45. I don't wish it on anyone and the idiots are not confined to rural communities. Plenty of

arseholes in the cities.

[jaxexpat]

46. You know it's about politics when the conversation gets Old Testamenty.

That's the secret to DU's attraction. We're, all of us, merely human, wresting, often blindly, a life from this mortal coil. Thus, when one of us aches or causes ache, so do the wrest of us jump in as if invited. The very best to you and yours.

[DownriverDem]

47. Not my wish

I have seen where folks do not feel sorry for unvaxxed folks by choice who get covid.

[tavernier]

49. I never wish illness on anyone but I sometimes wonder about those here who have no fear of karma.

We all wish you the best. In our exuberance we sometimes forget that our own are suffering and instead of all the threats and bravado, we should look around in our own community and understand that this pandemic isn’t one size fits all.

[Initech]

50. I'm not rooting for it, I want COVID to be cast to the hell it came from!

[MerryBlooms]

51. Sending you hopes and prayers for a full recovery.

I lost my husband in 2002, my sons were in high school. They nearly lost me to a car accident in 2006. They've been through way too much already... I have hernias that need fixed, more mesh, but my doc is monitoring and waiting for now. I had my others done at the very beginning of this pandemic, it was scary.

Take care, hon. 💜

[FailureToCommunicate]

53. My family hails from a farm in Washington, Missouri. I certainly do not wish bad things for

rural folk.

But I do deeply wish that people apparently too blind to help themselves -when they could have- were not taking up all the space in hospitals coast to coast.

In Boston,and eastern Mass, an area chock full of hospitals, news reports stated that there were currently only 6 ICU beds available.

Six!


I do wish you luck in getting in to have your medical needs met.

[Aussie105]

54. Don't wish bad on others.

No matter the circumstances, or how self inflicted things seem to you.

Karma has a habit of changing wind direction and sending the bad wishes right back at you. Sometimes, double.

Good luck with the surgery. May it be soon. Followed by a speedy recovery and good news from the surgeons.

[rambler_american]

56. Anyone who refuses to get vaccinated

and gets covid should go to the end of the line forming at the hospitals. Why TF should they get any kind of priority? They made their choice now they should have to live (or die) with it. I am completely out of fucks to give for them.

[LENNY0229]

88. SPOT ON!! These anti vax IDIOTS are keeping it going and cooking up new variants. If they get Covid

and croak then OH WELL! Too bad, so sad, no tears!

[Pinback]

57. Rooting for COVID is rooting against health care workers.

Not to mention “civilians” such as yourself, who are doing everything right but still at grave risk if you require a trip to the hospital or E.R.

I am with you 100 percent. We all recoiled in horror when Jared Kushner basically said “Hooray for the virus! It’s killing Dem voters in big cities!” Why should we stoop to the same ghoulish level?

I confess I feel less sympathy when some misinformation peddler gets their comeuppance, but even those hospitalizations and deaths are a horror for the crews who have to take care of them, and for the other patients who have to wait extra weeks for routine procedures.

Hang in there, and know you have friends in big cities who are rooting for you and your community.

[LENNY0229]

89. I shed no tears for anti vax Trumpers who croak from Covid. They CHOSE their fate. No tears!

[Pinback]

95. They are bringing down the entire health care system with them.

I don’t celebrate that.

P.S. Welcome to DU!

[LENNY0229]

114. Selfish assholes!

[Iggo]

58. I'm not rooting for the tide to come in. I just know it's coming. (n/t)

[raising2moredems]

59. Sorry to hear

Don't know how rural you are nor your insurance coverage but please do check out your options for having surgery in another state.
However I find it appalling that your surgery is not "absolutely necessary". Sending good karma your way.

[iemanja]

61. Wishing COVID on anyone is fucked up

[LENNY0229]

86. If they STUPIDLY AND SELFISHLY CHOOSE to not get vaxxed, then OH WELL! I have no sympathy.

[the_sly_pig]

109. Exactly.

I've now heard about two anti-vaxx people with COVID symptoms that hospitals have sent home with Zpacks and refused to admit. I know one person whose joint replacement surgery has been delayed due to anti-vaxx morons.

The willfully ignorant should reap what they sew.

[leftstreet]

62. DURec

[Sympthsical]

63. I find the wishing and celebrating of harm and death one of the worst aspects of online discourse

Entire threads celebrating - sometimes without full information - because they just know the person somehow deserves it.

It's completely gross and lacks all empathy. I've seen high fives over a teenager's accidental death because they just knew he must've been a redneck Republican with no supporting information provided.

I'd say we can do better, but this is social media. Anonymity is where the real person emerges.

It's interesting enough. Like someone planted a field with asses instead of tulips, and they're emerging into full blossom.

[sanatanadharma]

64. I have lived in seven States

Seven States in the USA and one foreign country

I am NOT any of the places that I have lived. They are not me. There is no equation of identity.
I see no reason to take personally any criticism of any of them, and all likely deserve some approbation.

[Demovictory9]

65. I would hope no one on DU is rooting for Covid against other Americans

[ancianita]

68. Wishing you the best of care, xmas74, and a fast recovery. No one should wish omicron on anyone.

If DU'ers have, they should know better, though many are worn down, frustrated, depressed and angry -- none of that makes it right, though.

Please don't paint all of DU by its weakest or most negative.
It's still a good place that cares about your feeling that you belong.

I read that the omicron wave is soon to abate, and I'm hoping that your doctors will schedule your surgery soon.

[Rhiannon12866]

71. I want it to be ended, the last thing I want is for anyone else to get Covid

The more people who get it, the more it spreads. I feel terrible when I hear about hospitals being overwhelmed - anywhere. We not only have DUers from all 50 states - and numerous other countries - but many of us have friends and family in all those places.

[Joinfortmill]

72. Regarding your medical condition

28 years ago Doc found a large growth on one of my ovaries. They thought I had cancer. When they operated I was so full of endometriosis, they had to scape my intestines. They performed a compete hysterectomy. No cancer. I'm still going g strong. Best of luck.

[mgardener]

73. I live in Elise Stefanik's district

We have higher covid numbers now.
Not all of us are Trumpers.
We mask, and have had our 3 shots. I don't know anyone that is not vaxxed.
I volunteer at the vaccine clinic.

Please don't lump all of us together.

[panader0]

74. I live in a rural area too.

It's zoned RU5, meaning that you need 5 acres for a house, but there are many areas with no homes
at all. Unfortunately, I know several guys who aren't vaxxed, but I would never wish for them, or any
vaxxed or unvaxxed folks to catch the virus.

[dwayneb]

75. Covid is the real enemy

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I can't say I've seen people here "rooting for Omicron in rural areas" but that would surely be ridiculous. The last thing any of us need is more Covid.

From what I can see, most unvaccinated now will never change their minds about it, they've been given plenty of information and for whatever reason they have decided not to get vaxxed.

This is reality, and we are going to have to deal with it. I do predict that over the next month or two Omicron will slow down significantly, and that the restrictions on elective surgeries will be lifted, and that you will be able to get the treatment you need.

Best of luck to you. There are still plenty of good people out there. Don't forget that.

[yardwork]

77. I'm so sorry that you're going through this.

I hope you can get a biopsy soon.

[CrispyQ]

79. No one should be rooting for Covid. WTF?

That is the same type of thinking that Trump & Kushner had when they decided to let the virus go cuz it was just in the blue states.

Hoping we get this awful situation under control soon so you & others can get the care they need. Positive thoughts & a virtual hug coming your way.

[MichMan]

96. Yet they are...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16255474

[GB_RN]

81. It Isn't Just There...

The unvaxxed, rural, Omicron patients are filling up metro-area hospitals, too. Rural hospitals don't have the capabilities, staff, or the capacity to take care of the "sick" COVID patients, and so these patients get sent on to metropolitan hospitals that have more beds, actual ICUs and better facilities. As these metro hospitals fill up - and fill up with contagious patients, they have to cancel surgeries and other services - because 1) they can't discharge the COVID patients because they're still sick, 2) they don't have room to admit new patients and 3) even if they did have room, they can't take the risk of infecting other patients with COVID. So yeah, the tRump voters (aka, the unvaxxed) may be dying, but they're hurting others who need vital services at their own local hospitals because those who are local to those metro hospitals can't get beds.

[LENNY0229]

85. In my view, unless it is a kid the policy should be "Not vaxxed? Then GO HOME!"

If the CovidIOTS can't trust science to prevent the illness, then why should they trust science to cure it?

LET THEM EAT HORSE PASTE!

[wryter2000]

90. DU is a big place

You can find someone to say anything, no matter how idiotic. What you quote is particularly stupid. Do they want children to get sick and die? Do they want to torture nurses and doctors? Do they want people to die of heart attacks because they can't get an ICU bed?

I hope things work out for you soon.

[roamer65]

91. Don't need to root for it.

Covidiots are helping the process of natural selection along just fine.

[PoliWrangler]

94. K&R nt

[GusBob]

97. After the last round of rural hate a month ago

First off I am very sorry about your medical condition and share your fear, anxiety and frustration.
As a rural health care provider I can tell you that wishing any sickness on any person is sociopath shit. Our entire clinic is ragged and bare boned tired. Omicron is coming and we are prepping but the Flu has ravaged our clinic and community now. We are tired, and sick

Regarding DU, after the last round of rural hate on DU, I had to take a break. I came back yesterday to see that post and thread and was outraged all over again. DUers HATE rural folks sick or healthy. Even EarlG was kicking us around which is why I left and am leaving for good. Rural voters are not welcomed here, his message was clear to me. Don’t bother recruiting them to our party was his message also. Not smart, hey.

I have decided with certainty that while the internet is full of snark, snide and hatred, DU is full of some of the most hate-filled and chronically unhappy people. Worse than the other side even. I had been a member here since 2003. It’s simply not worth it anymore. It’s not a healthy place. Cheering illness on other folks is literally a hatful and unhealthy thing

Regarding rural voters: Hillary Clinton won the Bronx and Manhattan by about a million votes, which was more than enough to win the important states she lost. I know she would have handled COVID better but COVID is causing a change in our economy and lifestyle. Folks are moving out of the city now. Smart move IMO
Be careful whom you cast your digressions on folks

Adios

[llashram]

98. every person

drinking their own urine. Sticking animal meds into their anus. And otherwise, those who followed trump to the edge of the cliff. He made a quick right, everyone else is falling by the way. May they suffer the consequence of their willful ignorance in quiet and don't blame anyone but yourselves. Arrivederci.

All who follow reputable science proven by research, wear their masks and generally respect other human beings, I'm right there with you

[Hulk]

100. My never ending apologies...

We learn as we live. I'm one who posted with the "poor white trailer trash" sometime back. I deeply regret that. It will never happen again, and was never meant to include everyone living in a trailer or manufactured home.

I grew up using the N word liberally, but I always looked around to be sure there wasn't anyone of color nearby that might kick the shit out of me for my ignorance. We grew up calling each other queers, or faggots...until I realized that was just more ignorance from an era that needs to be buried deep.

I'm also one who has disparaged the South, and blanketed everyone living there as worth less. I have learned and cut all of that out of my present. I'm sorry for those mistakes in my past, but it is my past.

As for wishing omicron or Covid in general to strike rural America with a vengeance, I never wanted that, but I did see a "silver lining" in hearing about the vocal anti vaxxers get taken down. I never considered their families and loved ones, nor the impact it makes on the medical communities across the world. I'm sorry for that calloused attitude as well.

Thanks for sharing your story. I wish you all the best, and hope you can get that elective surgery soon. I experienced postponing two elective surgeries myself until just recently because of Covid. My wife is in the very same situation as you, but she is reluctant to deal with it.

DU is a place to vent AND learn. I've learned a lot here. I'm learning more every day I read the threads. We make mistakes as humans. We learn from them. I know I have and continue to.

[LisaM]

101. 1000% this.

There are some DUers who present as being totally heartless, and I don't intend to join that crowd.

And the blame should be placed where it lies, with the people who purposely disseminate false information, not those who receive it.

I hope you get the care you need soon.

[calimary]

107. At this point, I just hope we all get through it.

I’m sorry it’s brought out the beast in some folks. Seems to me like a sign of how desperate, frustrating, and scary times can do that. Sometimes it can just push people over the line.

[soldierant]

110. Rural areas are where our food comes from.

What's that saying about "biting the hand that feeds you"?

[TallMike]

112. yup

we run 35 head of cattle just to keep in line with local agricultural tax guidelines. We are very fortunate. 100s of acres on which to hunt, farm or fish as we see fit. We don't really eat much beef. A burger here or there, xmas prime rib is about all. we prefer pigs, goats and chicken. Fish and a huge family garden every summer.
Sounds ideal right?
Please understand, it takes some 4or 5 individuals approximately 65 hours a week each to maintain. In addition to the "real job" of 36 to 45 hours a week doing whatever. Cooks, sawyers, welders and administrative types all make up our ranks.
Once and a while we get a day off. Of course we're probably fixing a broken piece of Equipment on that day because thats just what we do...
So, fuck em all. Let them feast on feral cats, sewer rats and each other.

[JustAnotherGen]

113. I don't think

Anti vaxxers should be allowed to take a bed from you. They don't believe in science - they shouldn't benefit from it.

[58Sunliner]

115. I'm so sorry that you dealing with this at all, but especially during these times.

I know people do not wish the hospitals to be over-flowing and needed surgeries postponed. They simply have a magical wish that those who created this hellish landscape suffer the consequences. I hope you are able to find another hospital that will perform the surgery even if it means another state. If you need resources, consider a go-fund-me for help. I know people would help.

[ck4829]

118. Kick