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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:20 PM Oct 2012

Greg Abbott, Texas Attorney General, Threatens To Arrest U.N. Elections Observers [UPDATED]

Greg Abbott, Texas Attorney General, Threatens To Arrest U.N. Elections Observers [UPDATED]

The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing Posted: 10/24/2012 2:06 pm Updated: 10/24/2012 4:16 pm


Greg Abbott, the Republican Attorney General of Texas, issued a stern warning this week to members of a United Nations-affiliated delegation expected to be on hand to monitor voting at polling places around the country on Election Day.

In a letter to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, a body created by U.N. charter and responsible for helping to ensure the integrity of elections, among other tasks, Abbott warned the diplomatic poll-watchers that their involvement in U.S. elections could have strong legal repercussions.

"It may be a criminal offense for OSCE's representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance," he writes. "Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law." Such a restriction makes election monitoring highly difficult.

The OSCE announced earlier this month that it would send 44 observers to polling places around the country on Election Day in order to monitor possible disputes that could arise in the voting process. The move came in response to a petition from liberal-leaning voting rights groups, including the NAACP and ACLU, that suggested the OSCE's presence could help combat what they fear will be a concerted effort to suppress votes from supporters of President Barack Obama.

Concerns among Democrats have mounted in the wake of reports that right-leaning groups, such as the Tea Party-aligned True The Vote, had plans to dispatch armies of poll-watchers seeking to root out invalid votes. Opponents warn that the volunteer "poll challengers" will engage in intimidation of legitimate minority voters who tend to vote Democratic.


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/greg-abbott-texas-un-elections_n_2010081.html

UPDATE: 3:10 p.m. EST -- Ambassador Janez Lenarčič, director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), responded in a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, saying that Abbott's threat put the state of Texas at odds with an agreement between the body and state authorities.

“The threat of criminal sanctions against OSCE/ODIHR observers is unacceptable,” Lenarčič said. “The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections.”

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Greg Abbott, Texas Attorney General, Threatens To Arrest U.N. Elections Observers [UPDATED] (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2012 OP
Since this is, I understand, a treaty and therefore a law, send deputy US Marshalls byeya Oct 2012 #1
+1 mike_c Oct 2012 #3
I think theKed Oct 2012 #9
Can he legally do that? silverweb Oct 2012 #2
Under Article VI, he does not RomneyLies Oct 2012 #7
Thank you! silverweb Oct 2012 #14
What are they so afraid of???? sheshe2 Oct 2012 #16
So this is the lay of the land? CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #4
True the Vote poll watchers are being appointed by the GOP Gothmog Oct 2012 #18
Well, he would blogslut Oct 2012 #5
Treaties are the highest law of the land, certainly higher than Texas law RomneyLies Oct 2012 #6
Arrest Greg Abbott. He wants to be Governor so bad he can't stand it! Zen Democrat Oct 2012 #8
Looks fishy. Maybe they have something to hide. Democratopia Oct 2012 #10
Usually when a banana republic kicks out election observers it's an indication TriplD Oct 2012 #11
Fine. Escort the UN observers with US Marshalls. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #12
That would be illegal, would it not? Jamastiene Oct 2012 #13
Ignorance knows no bounds. Gregorian Oct 2012 #15
Blazing Saddles gadgets505 Oct 2012 #17
Hahaha!! CrazyOrangeCat Oct 2012 #24
Greg is an idiot Gothmog Oct 2012 #19
Abbott is a total asshole. ananda Oct 2012 #20
Greg Maggot.. sendero Oct 2012 #21
Is there really a state law that this would violate? surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #22
Pappy Bush made it legal when he signed on the 1990 Copenhagen Document HDCowboy Oct 2012 #23
Maybe Greg should try arresting the Federal election monitors Gothmog Oct 2012 #25
 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
1. Since this is, I understand, a treaty and therefore a law, send deputy US Marshalls
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:23 PM
Oct 2012

to protect the UN Observers who find themselves in hostile areas like Texas.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
9. I think
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

that they would like that. Big Ol' Gummint stickin its nose in TEXAS bidness. It probably wouldn't take much for that to turn ugly. Which might be bad...and possibly good. Throw a great big floodlight on corruption in rural, Republican areas for the whole world to sea...because, make no mistake, a UN inspector getting attacked and arrested on US soil would be news from Aberdeen to Zaire.

silverweb

(16,410 posts)
2. Can he legally do that?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:23 PM
Oct 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]He's using weasel words -- "may" and "could." Does he have a legal leg to stand on?

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
7. Under Article VI, he does not
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:31 PM
Oct 2012

He could be subject to federal prosecution if he violates the diplomatic immunity afforded via treaty.

silverweb

(16,410 posts)
14. Thank you!
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:54 PM
Oct 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]To whomever is in charge of enforcing Article VI:

Please, please, please have the appropriate authorities on hand at every site to arrest Abbott and his agents when he tries to get away with this stunt!!



sheshe2

(97,626 posts)
16. What are they so afraid of????
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:03 PM
Oct 2012

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" me thinks...
Hamlet: Marellus to Horatio

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,619 posts)
4. So this is the lay of the land?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:25 PM
Oct 2012

The Tea party group True The Vote has free access inside the polling area, but the folks from the UN do not?

Reprehensible. Illegal. Horrifying.

Just the things we have come to expect from today's Republican Party.

Gothmog

(179,859 posts)
18. True the Vote poll watchers are being appointed by the GOP
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
Oct 2012

I am in charge of the voter protection operations in my county and have trained 60 or so poll watchers for early voting in my county.

To be a poll watcher in Texas you have to be a registered voter in that county and be appointed by a candidate or a party. The True the Vote people are residents of the county they are watching polls in and have been appointed by the GOP or a GOP candidate.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
6. Treaties are the highest law of the land, certainly higher than Texas law
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

Article VI of the United States Constitution:

...

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

...

TriplD

(176 posts)
11. Usually when a banana republic kicks out election observers it's an indication
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:42 PM
Oct 2012

that they rig their elections. Why should anyone view Texas differently now?

Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
13. That would be illegal, would it not?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:52 PM
Oct 2012

Doesn't the UN have a right to be there? I would think they do have the right to be there.

gadgets505

(15 posts)
17. Blazing Saddles
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oct 2012

I just emailed Abbott and quoted Blazing Saddles by telling him he's "the LEADING A$$HOLE IN THE STATE!"

Gothmog

(179,859 posts)
19. Greg is an idiot
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:13 PM - Edit history (1)

I was at the same downtown law firm as Greg in the 1980s but I was in a different section. Greg is not that bright.

surrealAmerican

(11,879 posts)
22. Is there really a state law that this would violate?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
Oct 2012

Would those "true the vote" people also be in violation of this law if it does exist?

Gothmog

(179,859 posts)
25. Maybe Greg should try arresting the Federal election monitors
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oct 2012

The DOJ has election monitors in both Dallas and Harris county for early voting http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/October/12-crt-1263.html Maybe Greg should consider arresting these federal poll watchres or monitors. That would be fun to watch

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