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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRegarding Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin, and pressuring them,
the only things that matter to them are their own voters, and the money coming from their contributors.
Not necessarily in that order, of course.
Walleye
(31,081 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,518 posts)Emile
(23,024 posts)They both will lose their seats if they decide to run again!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Emile
(23,024 posts)Scrivener7
(51,047 posts)Emile
(23,024 posts)Primary them and if you are so right they'll win the primary and go on to win reelection. But for some reason that frightens you!
Scrivener7
(51,047 posts)civics class. Especially the part about the majority party in the Senate running the committees and deciding which legislation is considered.
But we can agree that Sinema will not be reelected and that will be good for us.
Emile
(23,024 posts)Scrivener7
(51,047 posts)Yes. Yes, I am very afraid of that, especially if it comes about through our rank stupidity.
Emile
(23,024 posts)Like I said, you having nothing to fear because Manchin will win the primary and go onto win reelection! Isn't that what you think, the only one who has a chance is someone like Manchin?
PortTack
(32,809 posts)They are already talking about who would be the best candidate
Manchin, I understand the gqp gov of WV wants his seat
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I don't think they really care that much about their constituents.
Scrivener7
(51,047 posts)exploiting it.
As we should have done first.
Sinema, I think, is just nutty.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Neither of these DINOs have shown an ounce of courage where lobbyists are concerned.
gulliver
(13,197 posts)We need more than fifty senators. That means no more of this "inspire me to vote" nonsense. Voting is a duty, rain or shine, happy or sad. Also, non-Dem ideas like "defund the police" need to be actively disowned.
comradebillyboy
(10,178 posts)are moderates.
Emile
(23,024 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,178 posts)None the less most Democrats view themselves as moderates.
Emile
(23,024 posts)Since 2011, no Democrat currently serving in the Senate has split with the party more often, including 80 votes in which Senator Manchin was the only Democrat to break with his party and vote with the majority of Senate Republicans.
Overall, Senator Manchin has voted with the majority of Senate Republicans on 1,172 different votes or 54% of the votes he has taken as a United States Senator.
Since President Trump was inaugurated, no Senator (Democrat or Republican) has split with their party more often than Senator Manchin, including 23 votes in which he was the only Democrat to vote with the Republicans on issues such as:
https://www.manchin.senate.gov/about/bipartisanship/legislation
The scope of this is fair, imo....it also includes where he was not voting with Republicans. So many in his state need help, why he refused BBB is complicated for some to understand but it looks as if the WH has his number.
Senator Manchins comments this morning on FOX are at odds with his discussions this week with the President, with White House staff, and with his own public utterances. Weeks ago, Senator Manchin committed to the President, at his home in Wilmington, to support the Build Back Better framework that the President then subsequently announced. Senator Manchin pledged repeatedly to negotiate on finalizing that framework in good faith.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/12/19/statement-from-press-secretary-jen-psaki-4/
comradebillyboy
(10,178 posts)Emile
(23,024 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,178 posts)Emile
(23,024 posts)Scrivener7
(51,047 posts)RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)Here in Dallas we pay over $500M a year to our police department. We could get a better deal for protection from the mob. And our failed police department wants even more than the 38% of the city budget they get!
Emile
(23,024 posts)almost always home. Total waste of my tax dollars. I would rather see his salary cut in half and see more of these rural gravel roads blacktopped!
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)She is not going to move.
She and Manchin, both narcissists, continue to enjoy the spotlight -- and enjoy they do.
We need to move on from them, however we can.
Emile
(23,024 posts)ananda
(28,885 posts)Manchin and Sinema don't because they bet BIG bucks
for opposing it.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)as for Sinema, I have no idea.