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RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:50 PM Oct 2012

Obama's Margin of Victory: How Much Does He Need For A Mandate Like Bush Had in 2004?

It might be fun to have that ready for the day after. Obama's Mandate. hahahahahha

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former9thward

(33,424 posts)
1. The margin of victory will mean little.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:52 PM
Oct 2012

He needs the House and filibuster proof Senate (Do not depend on Reid changing the rule no matter what he says).

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
8. This will have some great coattailing
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:12 PM
Oct 2012

Plus, there are very good candidates this year. Look at heidi in ND, for example, kicking Berg big time in a very red state.

GoCubsGo

(34,847 posts)
14. Yep. He had a mandate in 2008.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:20 PM
Oct 2012

The republicans refused to recognize it. I don't see that changing, unless the Democrats win both houses of Congress and change the rules to prevent the kind of obstruction we saw over the past four years.

doc03

(39,005 posts)
5. If he got 538 EV and 90% of the popular vote
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:09 PM
Oct 2012

the Republicans wouldn't admit it was a mandate.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
12. Well, I may choose to cite a "Bush mandate" to my conservative friends just out of spite.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:13 PM
Oct 2012

hahahaha

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
9. Here's how it works: even you can win by 1 EV -- govern like you won by a landslide
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:21 PM
Oct 2012

That's the lesson we should have all learned from George W. Bush.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
11. While I am not sure I agree with that actual practice, I may have some fun with the "rhetoric of
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:10 PM
Oct 2012

mandate" if we manage even the slimmest of victories. hahaha

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
10. Sorry, didn't mean to imply it would be a "real mandate"
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

only a "Bush mandate", which of course is not one.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
16. A political mandate is a election victory of such a margin that the elected feels empowered
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:58 PM
Oct 2012

to enact their agenda due to a perception of wide support among their constituency. It is not a formal term in regard to any particular power.

outsideworld

(601 posts)
17. Ok
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:37 PM
Oct 2012

But that doesnt really change much if we dont have the house and a fill buster proof senate right ?

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
18. Bush did not have a madate in 2004
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:41 PM
Oct 2012

The election was close by any standard and Bush's victory was, to say the very least, extremely suspect.

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