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dwayneb

(768 posts)
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:05 AM Jan 2022

Trump and Big Lie believers: Fools or liars?

After January 6th, it becomes clear that Trump supporters fall into two camps:

1) The fools. Those that really, truly continue to believe every bit of populist propaganda from the Right and from the Trump cult. They are the ones that actually believe that America will be "great" once our democracy has been abolished and one-party rule is established once and for all.

2) The liars. These are the smart ones that know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump lost the election of 2020, but are shrewd enough to understand that the path to American Fascism is paved with lies. They will continue to spread the poison that is eroding confidence in our system of elections. Trump isn't stupid, he knows he lost the election. He also knows the power of misinformation and the gullibility of many Americans. He has practiced the art of lying his whole life, and the Big Lie is without a doubt his "masterpiece".

Point is, after January 6th there are very few fence riders supporting Trump. They must double down as either fools or liars. Not sure which is more dangerous in the long run, the puppet masters or the puppets.

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Trump and Big Lie believers: Fools or liars? (Original Post) dwayneb Jan 2022 OP
the liars are in Congress...they know agingdem Jan 2022 #1
Trump's appeal to the poorly educated The Wizard Jan 2022 #2
probably both MissMillie Jan 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author kentuck Jan 2022 #4

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
1. the liars are in Congress...they know
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:41 AM
Jan 2022

the supporters believe the Big Lie because they don't want to let their guy go...what binds them to Trump is overt hate..permission to brandish their assault weapons/handguns...permission to harass, maim, and kill "the other" with impunity..permission to storm the Capital building, permission to hunt down Pence and Pelosi...hang them if necessary..Trump let the monsters out of their cages and they don't want to go back in...

The Wizard

(12,542 posts)
2. Trump's appeal to the poorly educated
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 10:02 AM
Jan 2022

and exploitation of the feckless Republican leadership is the evil plan to destroy the United States government for his sponsor, Vladimir Putin.

MissMillie

(38,553 posts)
3. probably both
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 10:16 AM
Jan 2022

among the average populace, probably more fools--especially those who think that Fox, OANN, and Newsmax are unbiased, accurate news sources.

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