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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,274 posts)
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:17 PM Jan 2022

Michigan Attorney General says Republicans who faked election certificates 'absolutely' committed cr

crimes

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said there’s “absolutely” enough evidence to charge 16 Republicans for submitting false certificates claiming former President Donald Trump won the 2020 election.

Nessel, a Democrat, handed federal prosecutors the details of a year-long investigation into Republicans who signed documents falsely identifying themselves as Michigan’s electors in December 2020. Nessel said her office could still bring state-level charges against the group, which includes the co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, but federal prosecutors are better equipped to investigate connections between Michigan and other states where false certifications were signed.

“If it became clear to me that there was not going to be any accountability federally ... I think it would be incumbent upon my department to move forward on this,” Nessel said in a Tuesday press conference. “These are incredibly serious charges. The gravity of this situation, I don’t think can possibly be overstated as to what it means for our system of elections. We know how close we came to this being successful.”

Nessel said charges related to forgery of a public record and election law forgery could be brought against the GOP electors. She said forging election certificates is a crime, and described the effort as “election fraud.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michigan-attorney-general-says-republicans-who-faked-election-certificates-absolutely-committed-crimes/ar-AASUyX4
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Michigan Attorney General says Republicans who faked election certificates 'absolutely' committed cr (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2022 OP
Good news! Slap em with indictments! PortTack Jan 2022 #1
Lock. Them. Up. SheltieLover Jan 2022 #2
REAL election fraud!!! ret5hd Jan 2022 #3
Who prosecutes this - state or federal? FakeNoose Jan 2022 #4
Shapiro said no leftieNanner Jan 2022 #6
Wow I didn't know they were that smart. Thanks! FakeNoose Jan 2022 #8
Federal Takket Jan 2022 #7
AG Nessen clarified this very well: How Fake Electors Are Next Tool Of Election Subversion L. Coyote Jan 2022 #15
Arrest them now! Emile Jan 2022 #5
why are they talking about it !! fill out the arrest warrant's & do a round up !! jeeze !! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #9
"If it became clear to me that there was not going to be any accountability FEDERALLY ..." 3825-87867 Jan 2022 #10
Those who commit election fraud should be charged Ohioboy Jan 2022 #11
Who the f**k do papa3times Jan 2022 #12
"... her office could still bring state-level charges@ Grins Jan 2022 #13
This might actually be what breaks the damn open... SKKY Jan 2022 #14
Fake certificates strike at the heart of democracy Dorn Jan 2022 #16
Me think's Garland need's more A.G.'s at the D.O.J.'s office ??? monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #17
That's for sure DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #18
they better lock up TFG 's passports!!! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #19

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
4. Who prosecutes this - state or federal?
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:25 PM
Jan 2022

In the case of Michigan I hope it's the state AG's job. Also I'm pretty sure our Pennsylvania AG Josh Shapiro is acting on the same crime committed by PA Repukes. The other states, I'm not so sure they're looking at it that way.

In any case: Lock Them Up

leftieNanner

(15,173 posts)
6. Shapiro said no
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:29 PM
Jan 2022

The Pennsylvania "electors" put a qualifier in their form. Essentially, IF the court decides that trump won, then we are submitting these electors.

Takket

(21,640 posts)
7. Federal
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:30 PM
Jan 2022

That's why Nessel turned her results over to them, because it has become known that this was a bigger conspiracy than just Michigan and was an fact a piece of a large puzzle, the coup. It this had only happened in Michigan she would charge the people here, but this was nationally coordinated effort.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
15. AG Nessen clarified this very well: How Fake Electors Are Next Tool Of Election Subversion
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:23 AM
Jan 2022
How Fake Electors Are Next Tool Of Election Subversion



New Mexico AG also referred this matter to the DoJ.

3825-87867

(855 posts)
10. "If it became clear to me that there was not going to be any accountability FEDERALLY ..."
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 11:00 PM
Jan 2022

Really? IF? Not when?

Maybe that statement alone legitimizes many here questioning the DOJ. You don't have to wait for massive complete evidence on a bank robbery to arrest and try the guy who sold the bank plans to the perps! The bank WAS robbed!

I'm beginning to wonder if Garland is upset that Obama didn't do more to get him confirmed.

Ohioboy

(3,248 posts)
11. Those who commit election fraud should be charged
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 11:10 PM
Jan 2022

I'm sure that is what the republicans want. At least they say they want to stop voter fraud.

Grins

(7,239 posts)
13. "... her office could still bring state-level charges@
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 11:46 PM
Jan 2022

Then DO IT!!!!!! Michigan law was violated. So charge and prosecute! You can go to court now, before the next election. The feds will take another year to get their shit together.

Damn, this is stupid.

SKKY

(11,825 posts)
14. This might actually be what breaks the damn open...
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 11:48 PM
Jan 2022

...no doubt some of these clowns will cut deals and talk to avoid jail. This might be much bigger than we currently realize.

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
18. That's for sure
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 09:09 PM
Jan 2022

With all the new discoveries daily, I wonder when we are going to run out of prosecutors and courts.............

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