Today's Navy can kick the 1917 Navy's ass even if it has twice as many 1917 era ships

[MrScorpio]

Why can't Romney figure that out?

[justiceischeap]

1. Conservatives seem to be missing the nuance gene

they also seem to be missing a gene that let's them recognize things change, technology makes advances that means we need less to do the same or more. They seem to get that in business but when it comes to the military they don't seem to get the message.

[Permanut]

2. That was true even in 1967 when I was in the Navy..

so here we are 45 years later and EtchaSketch still can't figure it out.

[Kaleva]

3. Today's Navy can destroy the combined fleets of WWII

[Angleae]

6. Today's navy can destroy the combined fleets of today.

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US vs everyone else

[A HERETIC I AM]

4. Someone said in the last day or so.....

and I wish I could remember who or source the quote (maybe someone else will) ....


basically "Give me a single Trident Sub and a time machine, send me back to 1917 and I'll be Emperor of the world by lunchtime."

[Fumesucker]

18. Not so fast

A Trident sub requires a great deal of support, none of which exists in 1917.

Just convincing the people in charge at the time of your capabilities would be a job requiring consummate political skill and no small degree of luck.

These kind of ideas get kicked around quite often, if there can be said to be a consensus opinion of people who like to discuss this sort of scenario it's something like this: the world is a big place and people in the past were no more stupid or inept than humans today.


http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/digital/fact-vs-fiction/rome-sweet-rome-could-a-single-marine-unit-destroy-the-roman-empire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nantucket_series

[Downwinder]

5. Because he was never in the Navy.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

7. Years ago, Kirk Douglas hosted Saturday Night Live ...

and played in a skit called "What if Spartacus had a Piper Cub?" A (not-so-great) study of technological culture clash.

Or, there was a movie "The Final Countdown" about a modern aircraft carrier (circa 1980) going back in time to 1945, just before the attack on Pearl Harbor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_(film)

Always an entertaining premise.

[MrScorpio]

9. Kirk Douglas starred in "The Final Countdown" too

Obviously, Mitt should have paid more attention to Kirk Douglas.

[Kaleva]

11. It would have been late for Pearl Harbor had it gone back to 1945

It could have sailed into Tokyo Bay in 1945 and taken part in the Japanese surrender ceremonies but that wouldn't have been much of a movie.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

17. Doh! I'll blame it on a "Senior Moment"

Of course I know that Al Qaeda bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941!

[Octafish]

8. Mitt never heard of 'The Final Countdown'

USS Nimitz goes through a time warp and stands ready to sink the Japanese Imperial fleet.

[slampoet]

10. Heck i bet just two nuke subs could sink the whole 1917 navy.

Remember that 1917 didn't even have sonar.

[rppper]

12. Normally, the weapons load out on a...

.....Los Angeles attack sub is 24-25 weapons internally (tube launched) and 12 tomahawks in the vertical launch tubes....but each of these weapons, be it a mk48 torpedo, or a tomahawk or harpoon cruise missile, could sink any dreadnought of that period alone....there would be an accuracy rate of nearly 100%....they have no weapons to counter the subs weapons, not even speed.....the sonar of the period would only give away the WWI era ships exact position....even Vietnam era weapons...hell, I'll go as far as gulf war technology, is no match for today's....

When I got out of the navy in '97, I was abord the newest submarine commissioned, the USS Tucson....state of the art, but the new Virginia class now make the 688I class look almost obsolete. I'm the orange guy far right!

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

13. Would you rally around an outsider who calls you ill-prepared and in a sorry state...

...when, in fact, you, insiders, and the ROW know that you are leaps and bounds above all others?

I just never understood how Republicans win the military's votes despite treating them with contempt election after election.

[Dash87]

14. The GOP's theories on Military Science makes no sense

Basically, according to them, more money spent = a better military. More ships, even if they have no modern usage, = a better military. More men = a better military.

If we can be more powerful with less money, wouldn't that make more sense? Why does Romney want us to keep ships and military assets that have no practical use anymore and are being phased out?

[kentauros]

16. I think it's less about what they say publicly

and more about what they do behind closed doors. That is, keeping the MIC flush with funding, and by proxy, their own pockets and rich friends.

[kentauros]

15. Hell, today's Navy

could even beat the Flu Pandemic!