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They've got two-thirds of their voters believing the election was stolen. The only way to prove it was or wasn't his paper ballot a paper trail
elleng
(130,857 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,181 posts).
After the last set turned up, they need a better way to get rid of some.
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questionseverything
(9,646 posts)American made machines with open source software
Hand counts on federal races election night
Regular audits
Paper ballots make the line faster, lots of seat can fit in a gymnasium
No waiting for a few machines
LetsGoBiden
(58 posts)They want paper ballots so they can audit them I think at lest thats what my cousin says
gopiscrap
(23,733 posts)Lovie777
(12,230 posts)That is why a receipt is needed and confirmation on the net that persons truly did vote legally and it was accepted, tho even then in red states it will be challenged and even tossed out or simply ignored.
Although defeated in the senate by two so called Democrats, voting matters and the world has and will see the continue fight for it.
Emile
(22,639 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)Vinca
(50,255 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)Emile
(22,639 posts)it's all about The Big Lie!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Blaming supply chain.
Could be a clue as to what this is about...
Wounded Bear
(58,629 posts)FakeNoose
(32,617 posts)What are they complaining about? The mailed ballots are printed on paper, aren't they?
Mad_Machine76
(24,402 posts)I suspect that they want to be able to get their hands on them?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It was Republicans who were largely the driving force for touch-screen voting machines. There were all kinds of concerns about voting machines being hacked, proprietary software that was beyond review or testing, and the possibility of votes being undetectably changed in the bowels of the software. This is not an exhaustive list by any means. But Republicans pushed and pushed hard for voting machines that left no paper trail. Now they're screaming for paper ballots, but whaddya know? There are now paper shortages (at least in Texas) that threaten to short-circuit the printing of paper ballots.
This country ran free and fair elections for decades, centuries even. But then Republicans figured out that they couldn't win elections on those terms, and have ever since expended all their energy on gumming up the election process. If they spent their energy on good governance, they wouldn't have to worry about voters turning them out of office. But it's not a Republican value for government to deliver.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)Tfg was just bsing & projecting
moondust
(19,972 posts)For when you can't find anybody to hack the voting machines.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,166 posts)The vast majority of paper ballots are optical scan, which after filled out are ran through a scanner and tabulated.
The concern in the mid 00s was so-called "black box voting," where people would vote on touch screen machines but there would be no individual record of a vote, just an automatic tabulation. This was a very valid concern, but has been mostly remedied by the machines printing out a separate paper "receipt" for the voter to deposit in case of a recount or audit.
But right now there's no reason why computer tabulation methods can't be trusted as the primary counting method. The paper trail is necessary if there's a recount and people need to inspect the ballot to make sure the primary tally matched the voter's intent.
I believe Republican legislators in Arizona filed a bill recently demanding their be no computer tabulation of ballots, not even as a primary method. That of course is meant to slow down the counting process and I'm sure allow for them to challenge the ballots being cast.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)Democracy demands an open, transparent count
That can only be done by hand
Most precincts are less than 2000 ballots, use the scanner but hand count federal races
Wouldnt take that long
edhopper
(33,554 posts)paper ballots mean a paper trail, something Democrats have long sought.
They are screaming for the removal of vote counting machines and want everything hand counted.
The want to steal the elections, like they did in Florida.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)ballots going back to Bush v. Kerry in '04, with some of the reports involving the performance of some touch-screen machines.
MissMillie
(38,546 posts)and when you look ONLY at contested states, that number is 100%.
Nevilledog
(51,063 posts)The new hanging chad, but now it's errant marks.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)What I have heard them screaming about is limiting absentee/ mail-in ballots, stringent ID regulations, and prioritizing in person voting (either on paper or touch screens) so that turnout can be suppressed by long lines, fewer polling places, etc.
Most developed democracies use paper ballots.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)They believe the citys numbers are inflated
Not Louisville specifically but cities in general