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Nevilledog

(51,212 posts)
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:12 PM Jan 2022

Eggs Are Not People. But the Anti-Abortion Movement Wants to Change That.




https://rewirenewsgroup.com/article/2022/01/19/how-the-anti-abortion-movement-is-already-building-a-post-roe-world/


Conservatives have long relied on the false promise that no matter how many abortion restrictions they enact, they’re not targeting the people who have abortion. They’ll regulate abortion into nonexistence by targeting providers and, as with Texas SB 8, anyone who helps someone obtain an abortion—from the person who drives a patient to the clinic to the person who answers phones for their local abortion fund. Despite that, they’ll say pregnant people are not in their crosshairs.

But now they’re saying the quiet part out loud.

Anti-abortion lawmakers are working to enact “personhood” laws, which codify into law the concept that life begins at conception. In the simplest of terms? Personhood laws confer all the same rights that living, breathing human beings have onto a fetus; they make abortion murder and anyone who has an abortion a murderer.

Abortion advocates have warned against such measures for years, arguing that personhood was the eventual endgame of the anti-abortion movement. Now creeping personhood seems to have escalated to a sprint.

Meanwhile, the Supreme Court is poised to decide the most consequential abortion case in decades—Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization—which will likely bring about the end of Roe v. Wade as we know it by gutting the constitutional protections that, frayed as they may be, have been safeguarding access in this country since the 1970s. And it’s only getting worse from here.

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Eggs Are Not People. But the Anti-Abortion Movement Wants to Change That. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2022 OP
To simplify: eggs are not chickens. live love laugh Jan 2022 #1
Or, "Don't count your humans before they hatch." nt eppur_se_muova Jan 2022 #3
They want eggs to be sapient beings and don't understand why they can't be uponit7771 Jan 2022 #2
Eggs sure as hell are not people; neither are sperm. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2022 #4
mmm but people are delicious! jcgoldie Jan 2022 #5
I like mine sunny side up, but I will take them scrambled. Caliman73 Jan 2022 #13
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2022 #6
Jewish law says life begins at birth, not conception. Why aren't lawyers using this? cbabe Jan 2022 #7
That would blow up the anti-choice/evangelical politician's Sur Zobra Jan 2022 #19
If eggs are people, so are sperm Retrograde Jan 2022 #8
Sometimes I think some people just have too much time on their hands. grumpyduck Jan 2022 #9
Will we be forced to hold funerals after menses... MiHale Jan 2022 #10
They're not making that claim about unfertilized eggs, but they are about zygotes. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2022 #11
They are so eager to give fertilized eggs "personhood" that Bettie Jan 2022 #12
They Want To Go After RobinA Jan 2022 #15
Yes, that will be next Bettie Jan 2022 #24
Also, if eggs are people, sure puts a kink in the Census with six million eggs per woman. cbabe Jan 2022 #14
This is one of the reasons gender-reveal parties are bad nuxvomica Jan 2022 #16
Lots of women will disappear, Corgigal Jan 2022 #17
If I buy a sparkplug LastDemocratInSC Jan 2022 #18
Anything for fetal life, yet... imaginary girl Jan 2022 #20
Personhood laws basically say..."The State now CONTROLS your body." ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2022 #21
Even though fertilized eggs are complete genetic human organisms, personhood begins at birth SYFROYH Jan 2022 #22
I keep wanting to take MurrayDelph Jan 2022 #23

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,726 posts)
4. Eggs sure as hell are not people; neither are sperm.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:19 PM
Jan 2022

This whole business just makes me sick.

How do we stop them?



 

Sur Zobra

(3,428 posts)
19. That would blow up the anti-choice/evangelical politician's
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:36 PM
Jan 2022

claim that we are a judeo-christian country. I’m sure pro choice advocates will begin to argue the judeo version of when life starts when confronted by these personhood laws.

Retrograde

(10,163 posts)
8. If eggs are people, so are sperm
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jan 2022

Although the anti-woman brigade will find a way to tap-dance around that

MiHale

(9,786 posts)
10. Will we be forced to hold funerals after menses...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jan 2022

Better save everything or it’s tampering with evidence.

Bettie

(16,130 posts)
12. They are so eager to give fertilized eggs "personhood" that
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:03 PM
Jan 2022

they will take away that status from any woman who can become pregnant.

Once a woman is pregnant, she's no longer a person, she's an incubator in their estimation.

RobinA

(9,896 posts)
15. They Want To Go After
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jan 2022

birth control next. Personally, I think this will be biting off more than they can chew, but these days anything can happen.

Bettie

(16,130 posts)
24. Yes, that will be next
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jan 2022

unless they get sidetracked by taking marriage rights away from GLBT people.

nuxvomica

(12,449 posts)
16. This is one of the reasons gender-reveal parties are bad
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jan 2022

Aside from the loss of life, and sometimes forest fires, due to poorly handled explosions, gender-reveal parties subtly assert personhood for the foetus. I've always felt they were part of a plan.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
17. Lots of women will disappear,
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jan 2022

and even middle class, blond and blue eyed ones.

Men will not pay for a good time had by all, for 18 years. It wasn’t me, doesn’t work anymore.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,808 posts)
21. Personhood laws basically say..."The State now CONTROLS your body."
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jan 2022

Anything you do to PREVENT pregnancy will now be a crime.(That means using Contraception, getting tubaligations, IUDs)

Miscarriages will be subject to criminal prosecution on the charge of intent.(Miscarriages happen, intended or not.)

And women still vote for Republicans?

SYFROYH

(34,185 posts)
22. Even though fertilized eggs are complete genetic human organisms, personhood begins at birth
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jan 2022

It's a good rule.


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