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spanone

(141,598 posts)
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:55 PM Jan 2022

BREAKING: Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states

Washington (CNN)Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw efforts in December 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors from seven states that Trump lost, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the scheme.

The sources said members of former President Donald Trump's campaign team were far more involved than previously known in the plan, a core tenet of the broader plot to overturn President Joe Biden's victory when Congress counted the electoral votes on January 6.

Giuliani and his allies coordinated the nuts-and-bolts of the process on a state-by-state level, the sources told CNN. One source said there were multiple planning calls between Trump campaign officials and GOP state operatives, and that Giuliani participated in at least one call. The source also said the Trump campaign lined up supporters to fill elector slots, secured meeting rooms in statehouses for the fake electors to meet on December 14, 2020, and circulated drafts of fake certificates that were ultimately sent to the National Archives.

Trump and some of his top advisers publicly encouraged the "alternate electors" scheme in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico. But behind the scenes, Giuliani and Trump campaign officials actively choreographed the process, the sources said.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/trump-campaign-officials-rudy-giuliani-fake-electors/index.html
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BREAKING: Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states (Original Post) spanone Jan 2022 OP
Kick and rec for Trump's secret pals. Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #1
The real question, will DOJ follow through and put them in jail ? RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2022 #2
Same here Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #39
Just a fine correction... a pet peeve of mine WarGamer Jan 2022 #43
Looks like Rudy is in deep doody Trailrider1951 Jan 2022 #3
Bet that scheme was hatched in tfg's head.... spanone Jan 2022 #4
I think so too! bluestarone Jan 2022 #11
just think, rudy is going to take the fall for trump !!! bye , bye RUDY !!!!!!!!!!! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #37
With help from Bannon and Stone. wnylib Jan 2022 #53
The plot thickens and goes deeper into pure evil... Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #25
... Pachamama Jan 2022 #5
smells... myohmy2 Jan 2022 #6
WHY would they pick New Mexico ??? alittlelark Jan 2022 #7
We all wondered why TFG had a rally here shortly before the election. Desert grandma Jan 2022 #21
In case one of the targeted states for fake electors failed NM was a backup. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #27
TFG's campaign manager was the same for AZ and NM. Hugin Jan 2022 #49
Meanwhile, a black woman in Texas was sentenced to 5 years in prison for casting a provisional sop Jan 2022 #8
I remember that! Emile Jan 2022 #9
Seditious Conspiracy moondust Jan 2022 #10
Think when the AG publicly announced she got phone call from Garland?...we got this. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #28
Not the way it went down, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #32
She knew moondust Jan 2022 #45
Lock them up malaise Jan 2022 #12
When the walls come crumblin' down.... spanone Jan 2022 #15
Good song! kentuck Jan 2022 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jan 2022 #46
Love your playlist malaise Jan 2022 #47
Rudy will need extra hair dye for prime time TV. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #13
He should probably get the permanent, non-running kind. dchill Jan 2022 #29
The running kind is more fun. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #31
No, thanks. I REALLY don't want to have to look at that again. ShazzieB Jan 2022 #51
Tell Rudy To Tuck In His Shirt BEFORE The Cameras Start Rolling nt smb Jan 2022 #40
This is something JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #14
Can't wait to see what comes next..... spanone Jan 2022 #16
It's not fraud. It's just Trump hyperbole. Baitball Blogger Jan 2022 #17
What's not fraud? ShazzieB Jan 2022 #54
I was being sarcastic. Baitball Blogger Jan 2022 #55
Breaking? Rachel Maddow has been on this for a week... Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #18
Rachel is ALWAYS ahead of the m$m spanone Jan 2022 #19
True, but unless I missed something senseandsensibility Jan 2022 #20
Sic Semper tyrannis panader0 Jan 2022 #22
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2022 #23
What the hell were they plotting? Initech Jan 2022 #24
Why New Mexico?? kentuck Jan 2022 #26
Seven that we know of. GoCubsGo Jan 2022 #33
That would not surprise me one bit. ShazzieB Jan 2022 #52
I don't believe that Rudy was the main man, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #34
I would bet that Mark Meadows was involved also... kentuck Jan 2022 #35
So Windy City Charlie Jan 2022 #36
It's a scheme VGNonly Jan 2022 #38
More Like A Delusion Wrapped In A Dysfunction Inside A Derangement nt smb Jan 2022 #41
Trump Catherine Vincent Jan 2022 #42
11 Senators were publicly supporting this going into January 6th. mjvpi Jan 2022 #44
K&R UTUSN Jan 2022 #48
.......May all of those.... titanicdave Jan 2022 #50

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,163 posts)
2. The real question, will DOJ follow through and put them in jail ?
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:57 PM
Jan 2022

Waiting, sweetheart still waiting...

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
39. Same here
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:59 PM
Jan 2022

believe it when I see it. Nothing happens to them it seems no matter what they do.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
43. Just a fine correction... a pet peeve of mine
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:17 PM
Jan 2022

THe DoJ doesn't "put people in jail"... they bring people to trial after charging them with crimes.

People are sent to jail only after a jury of their peers finds them guilty.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
37. just think, rudy is going to take the fall for trump !!! bye , bye RUDY !!!!!!!!!!!
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:53 PM
Jan 2022

wnylib

(26,008 posts)
53. With help from Bannon and Stone.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:52 PM
Jan 2022

TFG is not strong on planning. He acts impulsively on the spur of the moment. He relies on others to do detailed planning. There are certain types of people who gather around a "leader" like that. They share the "values" of their leader and like the power of planning and carrying out the will of their Fuhrer.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
25. The plot thickens and goes deeper into pure evil...
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:24 PM
Jan 2022

The devil is in the details…

One of the pro-Trump electors from Pennsylvania, Sam DeMarco, told CNN there was a last-minute dispute, where the state's GOP electors pushed Trump campaign officials to add legal caveats to the fake certificate to say they were only electors-in-waiting, if Trump's legal challenges prevailed.
The fake documents from Pennsylvania and New Mexico ultimately contained these caveats, but the documents from the other five states explicitly claimed, falsely, that the pro-Trump electors were the rightful electors.

Desert grandma

(1,076 posts)
21. We all wondered why TFG had a rally here shortly before the election.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:14 PM
Jan 2022

Somehow he must have thought that NM could be a swing state. That has not been the case in many years. But, then, of course the Orange Maggot has always had an exaggerated opinion of his popularity. New Mexicans are much smarter than that.

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
49. TFG's campaign manager was the same for AZ and NM.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:41 PM
Jan 2022

So, the plan was probably coordinated through him. It was a twofer, I guess.

Besides, everyone outside of selected portions of the TFG-KKKlan are idiots and don't matter anyway.

sop

(18,605 posts)
8. Meanwhile, a black woman in Texas was sentenced to 5 years in prison for casting a provisional
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jan 2022

ballot in the 2016 election. If Trump's fake elector scheme isn't election fraud, I don't know what is.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
32. Not the way it went down,
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:48 PM
Jan 2022

she contacted her regional US Attorney with her information. She is still considering bringing state charges.

moondust

(21,286 posts)
45. She knew
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:33 PM
Jan 2022

she could and still may handle any state charges but also knew that if there was a broader conspiracy it would be beyond state jurisdiction and need DOJ involvement.

Response to spanone (Reply #15)

dchill

(42,660 posts)
29. He should probably get the permanent, non-running kind.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:28 PM
Jan 2022

Not that I want to help him in any way.

ShazzieB

(22,580 posts)
51. No, thanks. I REALLY don't want to have to look at that again.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:47 PM
Jan 2022

Once was way too much! 🤢

JustAnotherGen

(38,050 posts)
14. This is something
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jan 2022

Can hardly believe a few weeks ago - folks thought nothing was going to be done.

This is something big. I really hope Trump was a participant or is saying 'yes let's do this' in some communications.

ShazzieB

(22,580 posts)
54. What's not fraud?
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 09:07 PM
Jan 2022

All those fake slates of electors, signed and submitted from who knows how many states are just hyperbole and not hard evidence of attempted election fraud?

Your comment does not computel

Baitball Blogger

(52,341 posts)
55. I was being sarcastic.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 09:43 PM
Jan 2022

That was the excuse they used to explain his extravagantly over-estimated square footage of his home.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
26. Why New Mexico??
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:24 PM
Jan 2022

Did they need little New Mexico in order to bring Biden's electoral votes below Donald Trump's, so they could then claim victory?

GoCubsGo

(34,908 posts)
33. Seven that we know of.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jan 2022

It wouldn't surprise me if we find out this occurred in every state.

ShazzieB

(22,580 posts)
52. That would not surprise me one bit.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:52 PM
Jan 2022

Why not have ALL the bases covered, just in case? That way they're ready, no matter which states turn out to be the critical ones. I could definitely see them not wanting to leave anything to chance!

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
34. I don't believe that Rudy was the main man,
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jan 2022

he may have been the GoFer but he didn't draw up the scheme, that came from John Eastman.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
35. I would bet that Mark Meadows was involved also...
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jan 2022

Just as he was involved in the Georgia shenanigans.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
36. So
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jan 2022

So, while they were claiming election fraud was taking place, they were committing election fraud themselves.

Catherine Vincent

(34,610 posts)
42. Trump
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:07 PM
Jan 2022

What is it about this con man, that some people will do anything, even illegalities to keep this buffoon in power.

mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
44. 11 Senators were publicly supporting this going into January 6th.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:20 PM
Jan 2022

Daines from Montana chickened out after the insurrection failed. Let’s hope that there were lots of emails. There is no way that this plot was confined to the White House.

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