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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states
The sources said members of former President Donald Trump's campaign team were far more involved than previously known in the plan, a core tenet of the broader plot to overturn President Joe Biden's victory when Congress counted the electoral votes on January 6.
Giuliani and his allies coordinated the nuts-and-bolts of the process on a state-by-state level, the sources told CNN. One source said there were multiple planning calls between Trump campaign officials and GOP state operatives, and that Giuliani participated in at least one call. The source also said the Trump campaign lined up supporters to fill elector slots, secured meeting rooms in statehouses for the fake electors to meet on December 14, 2020, and circulated drafts of fake certificates that were ultimately sent to the National Archives.
Trump and some of his top advisers publicly encouraged the "alternate electors" scheme in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico. But behind the scenes, Giuliani and Trump campaign officials actively choreographed the process, the sources said.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/trump-campaign-officials-rudy-giuliani-fake-electors/index.html
Kingofalldems
(40,276 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,163 posts)Waiting, sweetheart still waiting...
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)believe it when I see it. Nothing happens to them it seems no matter what they do.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)THe DoJ doesn't "put people in jail"... they bring people to trial after charging them with crimes.
People are sent to jail only after a jury of their peers finds them guilty.
Trailrider1951
(3,581 posts)Somebody pass the popcorn
spanone
(141,598 posts)bluestarone
(22,174 posts)Take the blame and save TFG? (THESE are really DIRTY BASTARDS)
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)wnylib
(26,008 posts)TFG is not strong on planning. He acts impulsively on the spur of the moment. He relies on others to do detailed planning. There are certain types of people who gather around a "leader" like that. They share the "values" of their leader and like the power of planning and carrying out the will of their Fuhrer.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)The devil is in the details
One of the pro-Trump electors from Pennsylvania, Sam DeMarco, told CNN there was a last-minute dispute, where the state's GOP electors pushed Trump campaign officials to add legal caveats to the fake certificate to say they were only electors-in-waiting, if Trump's legal challenges prevailed.
The fake documents from Pennsylvania and New Mexico ultimately contained these caveats, but the documents from the other five states explicitly claimed, falsely, that the pro-Trump electors were the rightful electors.
Pachamama
(17,564 posts)myohmy2
(3,721 posts)...coup-ish to me...
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alittlelark
(19,139 posts)That's nutz.
Desert grandma
(1,076 posts)Somehow he must have thought that NM could be a swing state. That has not been the case in many years. But, then, of course the Orange Maggot has always had an exaggerated opinion of his popularity. New Mexicans are much smarter than that.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Hugin
(37,847 posts)So, the plan was probably coordinated through him. It was a twofer, I guess.
Besides, everyone outside of selected portions of the TFG-KKKlan are idiots and don't matter anyway.
sop
(18,605 posts)ballot in the 2016 election. If Trump's fake elector scheme isn't election fraud, I don't know what is.
Emile
(42,281 posts)moondust
(21,286 posts)Probably why Michigan AG Nessel wanted the DOJ to take over.
https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-ag-calls-doj-probe-024425551.html
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Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)gab13by13
(32,314 posts)she contacted her regional US Attorney with her information. She is still considering bringing state charges.
moondust
(21,286 posts)she could and still may handle any state charges but also knew that if there was a broader conspiracy it would be beyond state jurisdiction and need DOJ involvement.
malaise
(296,076 posts)The Party's over
spanone
(141,598 posts)kentuck
(115,406 posts)Thanks!
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malaise
(296,076 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)Not that I want to help him in any way.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)ShazzieB
(22,580 posts)Once was way too much! 🤢
smb
(3,598 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,050 posts)Can hardly believe a few weeks ago - folks thought nothing was going to be done.
This is something big. I really hope Trump was a participant or is saying 'yes let's do this' in some communications.
spanone
(141,598 posts)Baitball Blogger
(52,341 posts)ShazzieB
(22,580 posts)All those fake slates of electors, signed and submitted from who knows how many states are just hyperbole and not hard evidence of attempted election fraud?
Your comment does not computel

Baitball Blogger
(52,341 posts)That was the excuse they used to explain his extravagantly over-estimated square footage of his home.
Wounded Bear
(64,323 posts)spanone
(141,598 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,973 posts)this Rudy stuff is new.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Solly Mack
(96,939 posts)Initech
(108,771 posts)kentuck
(115,406 posts)Did they need little New Mexico in order to bring Biden's electoral votes below Donald Trump's, so they could then claim victory?
GoCubsGo
(34,908 posts)It wouldn't surprise me if we find out this occurred in every state.
ShazzieB
(22,580 posts)Why not have ALL the bases covered, just in case? That way they're ready, no matter which states turn out to be the critical ones. I could definitely see them not wanting to leave anything to chance!
gab13by13
(32,314 posts)he may have been the GoFer but he didn't draw up the scheme, that came from John Eastman.
kentuck
(115,406 posts)Just as he was involved in the Georgia shenanigans.
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)So, while they were claiming election fraud was taking place, they were committing election fraud themselves.
VGNonly
(8,491 posts)Wrapped in a plot
Inside an insurrection
smb
(3,598 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,610 posts)What is it about this con man, that some people will do anything, even illegalities to keep this buffoon in power.
mjvpi
(1,931 posts)Daines from Montana chickened out after the insurrection failed. Lets hope that there were lots of emails. There is no way that this plot was confined to the White House.
titanicdave
(430 posts).....bastards rot in hell in boiling oil........