Why Ivanke will refuse to appear before the Jan 6th Committee,

[duforsure]

She'll be forced to admit TGF knows the election fraud claims are bogus, and he planned ways trying to corrupt the election results, and she knew what he planned on Jan 6th, or lie and put herself in legal jeopardy. She knows way too much to go in front of them sworn to tell the truth. She's going to be squeezed anyway she goes.

[2naSalit]

1. The good part is...

They already have the info to nail her, they are giving her the chance to talk. If she refuses, they can still refer her for criminal investigation which will leave her open to indictment. That is true for all of them. The committee can't indict but the DoJ can.

[DarwinsRetriever]

2. Or plead the 5th

Just like Eric.

Giver her immunity, so she can't plead the 5th. Ask her questions which the committee knows the answer, she will lie, then charge her for perjury.

[Sherman A1]

3. She won't show up

This stuff is beneath her.

[duforsure]

4. She's the most like her dad,

And will be the first to flip on him to save herself.

[vlyons]

12. none of his kids will support him to the end

They will all look out for #1, themselves. Princess has her own businesses, and with her husband Kushner, their own real estate investments. Plus she has young children. At best, she will stall as long as possible and plead the 5th if necessary. If she is given immunity she will just throw dear old Dad under the bus.

[Tickle]

5. They're all playing a

time game. Drag this out and it will go away. I know as Ivanka just called me for tea and crumpets

[gab13by13]

6. Trump used her to keep his hands clean.

The Trump Tower in Baku, Azerbaijan that was built to launder money, never was occupied, had no access road built to it, was in Ivanka's name. He used his kids so if caught they would take the fall, yes, even his precious Ivanka, he would throw under the bus.

The word coming from Letitia James' civil investigation is that Ivanka is in trouble for providing the fraudulent property values.

Trump is one evil dude who even uses his kids as shields. Hey, they are adults and could have said no, so they reaped what they sowed.

[wnylib]

7. Regarding Ivanka, I don't understand the reports

that she begged TFG to stop the mob violence. If she was aware of the planning for this as much as the others in Trump's circle, did she really think that no violence would come of it? Had she recognized that the coup was failing before Trump did? Or was she concerned about the negative image that the Capitol attack was projecting around the country and around the world? Surely she knew that the coup plan included weapons for a siege and continued fighting past 1/6. Was she hoping for a bloodless coup?

[NanceGreggs]

21. "Surely she knew ..."

Why would you assume that she knew anything?

Have you ever seen Ivanka in action? She's as dumb as they come.

If you were plotting a coup, would you have included your dumb-as-fuck daughter in on the plan?

Yes, she was concerned about the "negative image" - undoubtedly still believing that her daddy was a great prezident, and that his inaction would reflect badly on his pristine reputation.

[wnylib]

24. She is also his favorite and

the one that he included in meetings abroad, even to the point of him acting like she was a legitimate representative of the country.

Is it possible that she could be around the WH and people of the inner circle and not hear about what was going on?

There were enough people involved in the planning for someone to slip if she was not included in the planning, but with her brothers in the thick of it, I doubt that she was left out of much.

[NanceGreggs]

28. I doubt that she was "left in" much.

Why would she be?

It's always the smart move to keep the naive, stupid, trusting one out of the loop. It greatly reduces the chances of beans - albeit inadvertently - being spilled.

[maxsolomon]

36. She didn't want a coup.

She wanted him to have his fun whining about how he was cheated, fail, retire to FL, die sooner rather than later, and leave her the money.

Last night on TRMS, she was quoted as saying "Mike Pence is a good man" after her father failed to wheedle him into betraying the Republic.

[NanceGreggs]

39. "... and leave her the money"?

She married into a very wealthy family. She doesn't need daddy to 'leave her the money'.

[maxsolomon]

40. She WANTS the money though.

Look at all the work she's put in!

When he dies, which I hope will be sooner rather than later, the fight between the original 3 kids and Melanoma will be epic. Melania is only waiting for the money, as well.

[NanceGreggs]

41. Her husband's family ...

... is extremely wealthy.

Ivanka has no need for Daddy's money - or what might be left of it after all is said and done.

So what is the basis of your claim that "she WANTS the money"?

[maxsolomon]

45. It's a subjective opinion, of course.

There might not BE any money.

[NCjack]

8. TFG has a final "oh, shit -- it's all coming down!" plan.

Ivanke will testify in return for a deal that:

-- She does no prison time.

--TFG makes a plea that all he did was because he is insane. For that, he gets time in a mental hospital with supervised golfing outings, with Secret Service protection.

-- Junior takes a heavy load and goes to a country-club prison. His girl friend is not charged with anything, and she moves on, away from the Trump family.

-- Gums pay fines and does no time. His wife divorces him and is not charged with anything. She moves on, away from the Trump family.

[orangecrush]

16. ...

[LastDemocratInSC]

22. I also think insanity is the only defense TFG has left.

[E. Normus]

9. Cmon

I believe she will show, plead the 5th about 500 times, all while saying she has nothing to hide!

[gab13by13]

10. Ivanka was the contact

representing the Trump Org. in its dealings with Deutsche bank, Trump's primary lender. It was reported years ago that Trump didn't pay back his loans from Deutsche because the loans were guaranteed by Putin's VTB bank.

Ivanka appears to be a key figure in Letitia James civil suit which would also make her a key suspect in the Manhattan DA's criminal law suit. Trump used his kids to keep his hands clean. Eric Trump was in charge of the Seven Springs mansion and the fake non-existent other mansions.

Trump gets his kids to sign off on the fraud while still raking in the cash, a perfect scenario, win - win for a crook.

[NanceGreggs]

43. ...

[NanceGreggs]

11. Ivanka is actually the one ...

... who has the most to lose, because she's the only one who has a life to go back to.

Don Jr.'s and Eric's lives are inextricably entwined with dad's; he is their source of revenue. On the other hand, Ivanka married into a wealthy family, is actually devoted to her children, and can eventually ease back into a very comfortable 'normal' life.

What she actually "knew" about daddy's plans re election fraud, Jan 6, et cetera, is highly debatable. She was probably always kept on a need-to-know basis - and all she "needed" to know was daddy's version of the story.

I think she was kept in the dark about most things. In public appearances, she always looked like daddy told her, "Just get out there, smile, and say what I told you to say - you'll be great!"

I doubt she ever really knew what she was saying - or more to the point, what she was signing. She trusted daddy - and that might be her undoing.

It really explains why Trump "loved her best". She was the perfect little girl/woman: trusting, submissive, obedient, always loyal - and not bright enough to ask any questions.

But when it comes down to it, if she has to choose between daddy and her own life, she'll do whatever it takes to protect herself, her husband, and her kids.

[gab13by13]

13. I believe the exact opposite,

she is the sibling most like Trump. She is in big trouble in the N.Y. investigations, she was the Trump Org. contact with Deutsche bank.

Her name was on the Trump Tower in Baku, Azerbaijan that was only built to launder money. She did video promotions of the tower, from another tower. The tower was never occupied and was even used by the Iranian Republican Guard to launder money. IMO she is the dirtiest of Trump's kids.

[NanceGreggs]

18. You're assuming she knew ...

... what she was saying, what she was promoting, what she was signing.

Her name being on anything doesn't mean she knew what was actually going on.

Quite frankly, I don't think she's (a) smart enough to have known what was really going on, or (b) intellectually curious enough to have asked questions.

I think she's like thousands of other women who have been conditioned to "trust" the men in their lives and simply do as they're told.

In my years as a court reporter, I saw many cases of women who signed all kinds of documents that put them in legal jeopardy simply because they trusted a husband who said "sign here" - without any knowledge of what they were actually signing.

No one is more amazed than I am to be coming to Ivanka' defense. But given her obvious lack of intelligence, coupled with her unwavering trust in Daddy Dearest, I don't think she ever realized that she was being used as the perfect dupe.

[wnylib]

27. I think you credit her with too much naivete.

And not enough intelligence. She grew up surrounded by connivers. People can be dumb about a lot of things and still be clever manipulators.

She projects an image of sheltered rich princess and you seem to accept it at face value.

[NanceGreggs]

29. Being a 'sheltered rich princess' ...

... is exactly why her naivete is completely plausible.

As for her "intelligence", please provide an example thereof.

[Stinky The Clown]

17. "She was the perfect little girl/woman: . . . .

. . . . trusting, submissive, obedient, always loyal - and not bright enough to ask any questions."

I could not agree more on this statement.

Proof of her being Daddy's puppet was her cringe-worthy attempt to break into a conversation that included Angela Merkel and Christine Legarde, among others. That showed it all in a single event. There have been other public moments that showed the same thing, but that one, in particular, was epic in that it encapsulated it all, including her dumbness.

[NanceGreggs]

20. I've always remembered that ...

... as the moment it was made apparent that Ivanka knew she was out of her depth, and was humiliated by the realization.

[LastDemocratInSC]

23. And when she occupied TFG's chair at the G7 meeting early on.

[Stinky The Clown]

44. That was bad, too, but kinda more in the aftermath. Christine Legarde's imperious disdain was . . .

. . . . withering.

[E. Normus]

14. okay

Even if Ivanka barbie is as stupid as some say, and didn't know much about what she signed off on, which I do not believe, she still committed crimes. I believe she will have a extended stay at the cross barred hotel, along with her brothers and the rest of the deplorable gang of IQ 45s.

[gab13by13]

15. Rachel had a segment on her a couple of years ago,

She was promoting Trump tower Azerbaijan, which was in her name. She shot a promo video for the tower and shot it from a different hotel. The tower never opened. She can't be that stupid she had to know what she was doing was illegal.

[NanceGreggs]

19. Actually, no ...

... she can - and probably is - that stupid.

[MrsCoffee]

25. She knows full well who her father is and what they've done.

She is not getting off the hook that easy.

No way in hell. Not for one second would I buy the ignorance excuse and neither will the NY AG.

[NanceGreggs]

30. And how do YOU know ...

... what SHE knew full well?

[MrsCoffee]

32. How do YOU know...

what she didn't?

[NanceGreggs]

33. Because one cannot prove a negative.

But someone purporting to prove a positive should be able to show their work.

[hamsterjill]

26. I'm sure Vlad has a nice home for her.

She won’t show. She’s actually smarter than her father in my mind. She will figure that if they already have the goods on her, anything she says will be a liability. She will invent some lame excuse for not cooperating and will stall, stall, stall.

The stalling is a well known tactic for anything Trump and those pursing this action need to have a plan and the means to get around that tactic.

[Captain Zero]

31. The Squeeze Is ON ! She left her home last night.

I read in another post here last night.
Packed her bags. She, Jared and the kids split from Miami.
Hope neither one of them let the door hit them in the ass.

[maxsolomon]

37. Ski vacation in Jackson Hole?

Maybe in the Alps.

It's not like they fled to a nation without and extradition treaty. She's not in any kind of legal jeopardy that warrants that.

[Poiuyt]

34. There's no way she'll appear before the Committee

She doesn't want to be written out of the will.

[NanceGreggs]

35. She doesn't need ...

... to be written into the will.

She married into a very wealthy family. If she never sees a dime from Daddy Dearest, she'll still be very well-off financially.

Trump's will is of no consequence whatsoever.

[BlueIdaho]

38. Ivanka's escape hatch

At some point soon (not at the hearings more likely a presser) she will appear tearfully confessing her father has abused her physically, emotionally, and sexually, since she was a young teen. Of course she did whatever he demanded because she feared for her life. Then she will write a “Me Too” book and hope to hell she gets welcomed back into New York high society with her loving husband by her side.

[NanceGreggs]

42. Yeah, that's gonna happen ...