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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBefore we all start remembering Meatloaf, here is his wikipedia "politics" page
Meat Loaf was not officially registered with any political party. He performed at the 1997 pre-inauguration ball for re-elected Democratic President Bill Clinton[129] and attended the 2001 inauguration of Republican President George W. Bush.[130] He donated to the presidential campaigns of Republican candidates Rick Santorum and John McCain, the latter of whom became the party's nominee in the 2008 presidential election.[131]
On October 25, 2012, Meat Loaf endorsed Mitt Romney for president, citing poor relations with Russia as a major reason he had been "arguing for Mitt Romney for a year".[132] He said, "I have never been in any political agenda in my life, but I think that in 2012 this is the most important election in the history of the United States." He then said there are "storm clouds" over the United States and "thunder storms" over Europe: "There are hail storms and I mean major hail storms! in the Middle East. There are storms brewing through China, through Asia, through everywhere."[132] The same day, he performed "America the Beautiful" standing next to Romney.[133][134]
In a 2017 interview with Billboard, he said positive things about Donald Trump, Ivanka and Donald Jr. (they had worked together on The Celebrity Apprentice in 2011).[135]
In an interview with Daily Mail in 2021 he called Greta Thunberg "brainwashed" due to her views on climate change.[136]
He was a Trumper. No tears shed, even if I liked the music.
Casady1
(2,133 posts)I basically never liked his music.
Goonch
(3,618 posts)an intimate profile of American rock legend Meat Loaf, spanning from his childhood of domestic violence, through a decade of rejection by record companies to global fame, bust-ups and a major comeback. Features friends, family and fellow musicians offering a candid, gritty and humorous profile of the overweight bullied kid who became a music icon."
Walleye
(31,062 posts)When they have personally benefited so much from our progress in culture. He didnt reject rock n roll, he just rejected everything that made it possible
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)degrees; in some it bulldozes over native intelligence, moral judgement and ability to recognize truth so strongly they might not even exist.
Personality and its effects on political attitudes.
Walleye
(31,062 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)are genetically coded but nurture plays a larger part.
Whatever, apparently MRIs can often indicate whether someone's one of the two basic personality groups, conservative or liberal, by the parts of the brain more used (larger). And conservative brains supposedly tend to run new input past emotional centers before sending it for cognitive analysis, as opposed to liberal brains which do cognitive and then send that result for emotional reaction. Nothing's ever completely cut-and-dried, of course, but that would seem to explain a whole lot right there.
No surprise that research, and reporting on it, has been hampered by the poor reaction to reporting of studies roughly a decade ago.
Glorfindel
(9,736 posts)other than that, I will say no more.
madville
(7,412 posts)That Steve Martin movie about the traveling evangelist show, Leap of Faith?
jcgoldie
(11,650 posts)Its so good no one should mind watching twice!
Carlitos Brigante
(26,505 posts)WheelWalker
(8,956 posts)...and I'm 72 y.o.
orleans
(34,074 posts)ripcord
(5,537 posts)Interestingly it is Ellen Foley's vocals in the video but Karla Devito was lip syncing.
ProfessorGAC
(65,212 posts)She was a HS friend of the husband of one of wife's best friends. They were in drama club together at a HS about 20 miles from here.
Ellen wasn't interested in going on tour, Karla won the audition. Hence, the live footage in the video with her on stage.
She toured with him several times.
Another fun fact: Ellen's voice appears among the La-las on BOC'S "Don't Fear The Reaper".
orleans
(34,074 posts)orleans
(34,074 posts)that's interesting.
lame54
(35,326 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)I typically don't pay too much attention to the private lived of artist or athletes.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I don't understand the "legendary" and "super star" status he's been given. Kinda like Kid Rock
Ted Nugent or Kanye.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)In fact, I have always found him quite repulsive, and that was before I knew anything about his politics. Never really liked his music either.
bahboo
(16,364 posts)and one of the most amazing concerts I've ever seen...
madville
(7,412 posts)For example, I still love a few of Ted Nugents songs like Stranglehold and Free For All, hes an amazing guitar player, but you know politically, well I dont even have to explain that!
Meatloaf could put on a great show I bet, seemed high energy from the videos Ive seen.
sarisataka
(18,779 posts)No matter how wrong they may be.
I won't celebrate a death of someone I disagree with; nor will I ignore their faults
AZLD4Candidate
(5,772 posts)sarisataka
(18,779 posts)Same for Osama bin Laden. They were highly negative influences in the world and it is a slightly better place without them.
Everyone has the potential for good and to redeem, death ends that opportunity so for that reason I will not celebrate death.
Walleye
(31,062 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(43,199 posts)And to be fair, it's not a bad song. It's catchy, well-written and well sung.
Still, it's just one song.
And I know he had multiple albums and multiple songs, but for me, he's just the guy who sung "I'll Do Anything for Love (But I Won't do That.)"
So...yeah. Sung a good song, had some whacked-out political beliefs, and now he's dead (possibly of Covid after failing to vax.) And that's that.
*Oh, and he was in Fight Club. Forgot about that.
Therefore, Sung a good song, was in Fight Club, had some whacked-out political beliefs, and now he's dead (possibly of Covid after failing to vax.) And that's that.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,772 posts)One song. It's why I call him Mr. "Cat Scratch Fever and nothing else"
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)That I'm going to hate someone that I otherwise respected just because he voted the wrong way.
Especially if his entire support is characterized as "he said positive things" about the guy I don't like.
I enjoyed his music and feel bad for his family.
jcgoldie
(11,650 posts)Or even that he went onstage supporting Mittens. Speaking out publicly against climate change and dragging Greta Thunberg then again against covid mandates lowers my opinion of the man considerably however...
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He always seemed more like a clown than a serious performer. Now I know I was right on.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)And if you have to go to Wiki to know his politics and then have to trash a dead man.
That says more about you.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Are we allowed to feel bad that he died?
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)But if he died because he was too stupid to get a vaccine.... Then tots and pears.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,053 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,965 posts)As an English teacher, I know that a LOT of writers that I liked were fucking horrible humans. I can still like their art. Expand that to actors and musicians, and it doesn't help the percentages at all.
Robert Paulson got sucked in to the Trump bullshit. I did not like that. Bat Out of Hell is still a groundbreaking album, and I still sing along when a song comes on. I'll probably rewatch Rocky Horror tonight for the umpteenth time.
Walleye
(31,062 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)I was invited to a concert of his it was like listening to hell. Terrible fking music. I did like the first band Cheap Trick.
Torchlight
(3,361 posts)Wagner, T.S. Eliot, Picasso (creepy, creepy guy), it's a long damn list. My argument is that while these guys may have been reprehensible, their art is not.
I'll still give a listen to Bat Out of Hell when the mood strikes, just as I'll re-read The Hollow Men every once and again. Bad people can create good art. Good people can create bad art.
2naSalit
(86,804 posts)Not surprised if he did die from his own chosen ignorance.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Bat Out of Hell was a part of my formative years. May he rest in peace.
His death was preventable and that makes me sad.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)May he RIP and condolences to his family..
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