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AZLD4Candidate

(5,772 posts)
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:10 PM Jan 2022

Before we all start remembering Meatloaf, here is his wikipedia "politics" page

Politics

Meat Loaf was not officially registered with any political party. He performed at the 1997 pre-inauguration ball for re-elected Democratic President Bill Clinton[129] and attended the 2001 inauguration of Republican President George W. Bush.[130] He donated to the presidential campaigns of Republican candidates Rick Santorum and John McCain, the latter of whom became the party's nominee in the 2008 presidential election.[131]

On October 25, 2012, Meat Loaf endorsed Mitt Romney for president, citing poor relations with Russia as a major reason he had been "arguing for Mitt Romney for a year".[132] He said, "I have never been in any political agenda in my life, but I think that in 2012 this is the most important election in the history of the United States." He then said there are "storm clouds" over the United States and "thunder storms" over Europe: "There are hail storms – and I mean major hail storms! – in the Middle East. There are storms brewing through China, through Asia, through everywhere."[132] The same day, he performed "America the Beautiful" standing next to Romney.[133][134]

In a 2017 interview with Billboard, he said positive things about Donald Trump, Ivanka and Donald Jr. (they had worked together on The Celebrity Apprentice in 2011).[135]

In an interview with Daily Mail in 2021 he called Greta Thunberg "brainwashed" due to her views on climate change.[136]


He was a Trumper. No tears shed, even if I liked the music.
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Before we all start remembering Meatloaf, here is his wikipedia "politics" page (Original Post) AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 OP
I never listened or bought an album of his Casady1 Jan 2022 #1
I'm watching "Meat Loaf: In and Out of Hell" (2015) Documentary featuring Goonch Jan 2022 #8
Don't understand people who want to lineup on the other side of the culture wars. Walleye Jan 2022 #2
Personality explains 95% of it. It affects us all to various Hortensis Jan 2022 #27
Good point I believe there must be something hardwired Walleye Jan 2022 #28
From what I've read, basic orientations to conservative and liberal Hortensis Jan 2022 #34
I thought he did a creditable job in "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" Glorfindel Jan 2022 #3
He was good in Fight Club and madville Jan 2022 #18
dropped this in the other thread but.. jcgoldie Jan 2022 #4
I remember watching that back in the day and feeling sorry for the guy. Something seemed very off.nt Carlitos Brigante Jan 2022 #22
Never heard of him. WheelWalker Jan 2022 #5
this video/song is iconic (imo). and delightful. orleans Jan 2022 #9
Banned at our high school ripcord Jan 2022 #36
Karla Toured With Him ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #41
those are fun facts! nt orleans Jan 2022 #43
i don't remember hearing about the dubbed vocal orleans Jan 2022 #42
His name is Robert Paulson lame54 Jan 2022 #38
Regardless of politics, some of his early songs are pretty good Buckeyeblue Jan 2022 #6
I was never a fan. panader0 Jan 2022 #7
Neither have I. smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #35
I choose to remember him by the music... bahboo Jan 2022 #10
I can appreciate that mindset madville Jan 2022 #24
Everyone is entitled to their opinions sarisataka Jan 2022 #11
What did you feel when Rush Limbaugh died? AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #12
Not much sarisataka Jan 2022 #17
Relief Walleye Jan 2022 #29
Ditto. nt BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #33
Honestly, like many I can only think of that one particular song of his that stands out in my head. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #13
I feel the same way about Ted Nugent's music AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #15
meh. I'm not that polarized fescuerescue Jan 2022 #14
I don't care about how he voted jcgoldie Jan 2022 #25
I only knew him through the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" and a few other venues. MoonRiver Jan 2022 #16
I enjoyed his music. It was fun. alphafemale Jan 2022 #19
How about Louie Anderson? alphafemale Jan 2022 #20
I liked some of his music... TheRealNorth Jan 2022 #21
I actually went to see him in his big starring role of "Roadie" back in the day... 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2022 #23
If I am limited to artists that agree with me politically, I'm screwed. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2022 #26
I agree with that. I'm not gonna stop listening to Van Morrison or Clapton I've listened to for 50yr Walleye Jan 2022 #30
truth is he was a un-American pos. He seemed pro Putin rockfordfile Jan 2022 #31
I usually separate (or at least try to) the art from the artist. Torchlight Jan 2022 #32
Never liked him or his music. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #37
He died from Covid. Political beliefs aside I liked him. gldstwmn Jan 2022 #39
I don't need the negativity of cheering on someone's death. CentralMass Jan 2022 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2022 #44

Goonch

(3,618 posts)
8. I'm watching "Meat Loaf: In and Out of Hell" (2015) Documentary featuring
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jan 2022

an intimate profile of American rock legend Meat Loaf, spanning from his childhood of domestic violence, through a decade of rejection by record companies to global fame, bust-ups and a major comeback. Features friends, family and fellow musicians offering a candid, gritty and humorous profile of the overweight bullied kid who became a music icon."

Walleye

(31,062 posts)
2. Don't understand people who want to lineup on the other side of the culture wars.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:13 PM
Jan 2022

When they have personally benefited so much from our progress in culture. He didn’t reject rock ‘n’ roll, he just rejected everything that made it possible

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Personality explains 95% of it. It affects us all to various
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:10 PM
Jan 2022

degrees; in some it bulldozes over native intelligence, moral judgement and ability to recognize truth so strongly they might not even exist.

Personality and its effects on political attitudes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. From what I've read, basic orientations to conservative and liberal
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:23 PM
Jan 2022

are genetically coded but nurture plays a larger part.

Whatever, apparently MRIs can often indicate whether someone's one of the two basic personality groups, conservative or liberal, by the parts of the brain more used (larger). And conservative brains supposedly tend to run new input past emotional centers before sending it for cognitive analysis, as opposed to liberal brains which do cognitive and then send that result for emotional reaction. Nothing's ever completely cut-and-dried, of course, but that would seem to explain a whole lot right there.

No surprise that research, and reporting on it, has been hampered by the poor reaction to reporting of studies roughly a decade ago.

madville

(7,412 posts)
18. He was good in Fight Club and
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jan 2022

That Steve Martin movie about the traveling evangelist show, Leap of Faith?

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
36. Banned at our high school
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:25 PM
Jan 2022

Interestingly it is Ellen Foley's vocals in the video but Karla Devito was lip syncing.

ProfessorGAC

(65,212 posts)
41. Karla Toured With Him
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:42 PM
Jan 2022

She was a HS friend of the husband of one of wife's best friends. They were in drama club together at a HS about 20 miles from here.
Ellen wasn't interested in going on tour, Karla won the audition. Hence, the live footage in the video with her on stage.
She toured with him several times.
Another fun fact: Ellen's voice appears among the La-las on BOC'S "Don't Fear The Reaper".

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
6. Regardless of politics, some of his early songs are pretty good
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jan 2022

I typically don't pay too much attention to the private lived of artist or athletes.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
7. I was never a fan.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jan 2022

I don't understand the "legendary" and "super star" status he's been given. Kinda like Kid Rock
Ted Nugent or Kanye.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. Neither have I.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:25 PM
Jan 2022

In fact, I have always found him quite repulsive, and that was before I knew anything about his politics. Never really liked his music either.

madville

(7,412 posts)
24. I can appreciate that mindset
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jan 2022

For example, I still love a few of Ted Nugent’s songs like Stranglehold and Free For All, he’s an amazing guitar player, but you know politically, well I don’t even have to explain that!

Meatloaf could put on a great show I bet, seemed high energy from the videos I’ve seen.

sarisataka

(18,779 posts)
11. Everyone is entitled to their opinions
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jan 2022

No matter how wrong they may be.

I won't celebrate a death of someone I disagree with; nor will I ignore their faults

sarisataka

(18,779 posts)
17. Not much
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jan 2022

Same for Osama bin Laden. They were highly negative influences in the world and it is a slightly better place without them.

Everyone has the potential for good and to redeem, death ends that opportunity so for that reason I will not celebrate death.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,199 posts)
13. Honestly, like many I can only think of that one particular song of his that stands out in my head.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:39 PM
Jan 2022

And to be fair, it's not a bad song. It's catchy, well-written and well sung.

Still, it's just one song.

And I know he had multiple albums and multiple songs, but for me, he's just the guy who sung "I'll Do Anything for Love (But I Won't do That.)"

So...yeah. Sung a good song, had some whacked-out political beliefs, and now he's dead (possibly of Covid after failing to vax.) And that's that.


*Oh, and he was in Fight Club. Forgot about that.

Therefore, Sung a good song, was in Fight Club, had some whacked-out political beliefs, and now he's dead (possibly of Covid after failing to vax.) And that's that.



AZLD4Candidate

(5,772 posts)
15. I feel the same way about Ted Nugent's music
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:41 PM
Jan 2022

One song. It's why I call him Mr. "Cat Scratch Fever and nothing else"

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
14. meh. I'm not that polarized
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:41 PM
Jan 2022

That I'm going to hate someone that I otherwise respected just because he voted the wrong way.

Especially if his entire support is characterized as "he said positive things" about the guy I don't like.

I enjoyed his music and feel bad for his family.

jcgoldie

(11,650 posts)
25. I don't care about how he voted
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jan 2022

Or even that he went onstage supporting Mittens. Speaking out publicly against climate change and dragging Greta Thunberg then again against covid mandates lowers my opinion of the man considerably however...

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
16. I only knew him through the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" and a few other venues.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:43 PM
Jan 2022

He always seemed more like a clown than a serious performer. Now I know I was right on.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
19. I enjoyed his music. It was fun.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:45 PM
Jan 2022

And if you have to go to Wiki to know his politics and then have to trash a dead man.

That says more about you.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
21. I liked some of his music...
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jan 2022

But if he died because he was too stupid to get a vaccine.... Then tots and pears.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
26. If I am limited to artists that agree with me politically, I'm screwed.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jan 2022

As an English teacher, I know that a LOT of writers that I liked were fucking horrible humans. I can still like their art. Expand that to actors and musicians, and it doesn't help the percentages at all.

Robert Paulson got sucked in to the Trump bullshit. I did not like that. Bat Out of Hell is still a groundbreaking album, and I still sing along when a song comes on. I'll probably rewatch Rocky Horror tonight for the umpteenth time.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
31. truth is he was a un-American pos. He seemed pro Putin
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:19 PM
Jan 2022

I was invited to a concert of his it was like listening to hell. Terrible fking music. I did like the first band Cheap Trick.

Torchlight

(3,361 posts)
32. I usually separate (or at least try to) the art from the artist.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:21 PM
Jan 2022

Wagner, T.S. Eliot, Picasso (creepy, creepy guy), it's a long damn list. My argument is that while these guys may have been reprehensible, their art is not.

I'll still give a listen to Bat Out of Hell when the mood strikes, just as I'll re-read The Hollow Men every once and again. Bad people can create good art. Good people can create bad art.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
39. He died from Covid. Political beliefs aside I liked him.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jan 2022

Bat Out of Hell was a part of my formative years. May he rest in peace.
His death was preventable and that makes me sad.

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