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Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:10 PM

Before we all start remembering Meatloaf, here is his wikipedia "politics" page

Politics

Meat Loaf was not officially registered with any political party. He performed at the 1997 pre-inauguration ball for re-elected Democratic President Bill Clinton[129] and attended the 2001 inauguration of Republican President George W. Bush.[130] He donated to the presidential campaigns of Republican candidates Rick Santorum and John McCain, the latter of whom became the party's nominee in the 2008 presidential election.[131]

On October 25, 2012, Meat Loaf endorsed Mitt Romney for president, citing poor relations with Russia as a major reason he had been "arguing for Mitt Romney for a year".[132] He said, "I have never been in any political agenda in my life, but I think that in 2012 this is the most important election in the history of the United States." He then said there are "storm clouds" over the United States and "thunder storms" over Europe: "There are hail storms Ė and I mean major hail storms! Ė in the Middle East. There are storms brewing through China, through Asia, through everywhere."[132] The same day, he performed "America the Beautiful" standing next to Romney.[133][134]

In a 2017 interview with Billboard, he said positive things about Donald Trump, Ivanka and Donald Jr. (they had worked together on The Celebrity Apprentice in 2011).[135]

In an interview with Daily Mail in 2021 he called Greta Thunberg "brainwashed" due to her views on climate change.[136]


He was a Trumper. No tears shed, even if I liked the music.

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Reply Before we all start remembering Meatloaf, here is his wikipedia "politics" page (Original post)
AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 OP
Casady1 Jan 2022 #1
Goonch Jan 2022 #8
Walleye Jan 2022 #2
Hortensis Jan 2022 #27
Walleye Jan 2022 #28
Hortensis Jan 2022 #34
Glorfindel Jan 2022 #3
madville Jan 2022 #18
jcgoldie Jan 2022 #4
Carlitos Brigante Jan 2022 #22
WheelWalker Jan 2022 #5
orleans Jan 2022 #9
ripcord Jan 2022 #36
ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #41
orleans Jan 2022 #43
orleans Jan 2022 #42
lame54 Jan 2022 #38
Buckeyeblue Jan 2022 #6
panader0 Jan 2022 #7
smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #35
bahboo Jan 2022 #10
madville Jan 2022 #24
sarisataka Jan 2022 #11
AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #12
sarisataka Jan 2022 #17
Walleye Jan 2022 #29
BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #33
Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #13
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fescuerescue Jan 2022 #14
jcgoldie Jan 2022 #25
MoonRiver Jan 2022 #16
alphafemale Jan 2022 #19
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TheRealNorth Jan 2022 #21
50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2022 #23
Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2022 #26
Walleye Jan 2022 #30
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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:12 PM

1. I never listened or bought an album of his

I basically never liked his music.

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Response to Casady1 (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:25 PM

8. I'm watching "Meat Loaf: In and Out of Hell" (2015) Documentary featuring

an intimate profile of American rock legend Meat Loaf, spanning from his childhood of domestic violence, through a decade of rejection by record companies to global fame, bust-ups and a major comeback. Features friends, family and fellow musicians offering a candid, gritty and humorous profile of the overweight bullied kid who became a music icon."

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:13 PM

2. Don't understand people who want to lineup on the other side of the culture wars.

When they have personally benefited so much from our progress in culture. He didnít reject rock Ďní roll, he just rejected everything that made it possible

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Response to Walleye (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:10 PM

27. Personality explains 95% of it. It affects us all to various

degrees; in some it bulldozes over native intelligence, moral judgement and ability to recognize truth so strongly they might not even exist.

Personality and its effects on political attitudes.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:14 PM

28. Good point I believe there must be something hardwired

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Response to Walleye (Reply #28)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:23 PM

34. From what I've read, basic orientations to conservative and liberal

are genetically coded but nurture plays a larger part.

Whatever, apparently MRIs can often indicate whether someone's one of the two basic personality groups, conservative or liberal, by the parts of the brain more used (larger). And conservative brains supposedly tend to run new input past emotional centers before sending it for cognitive analysis, as opposed to liberal brains which do cognitive and then send that result for emotional reaction. Nothing's ever completely cut-and-dried, of course, but that would seem to explain a whole lot right there.

No surprise that research, and reporting on it, has been hampered by the poor reaction to reporting of studies roughly a decade ago.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:15 PM

3. I thought he did a creditable job in "The Rocky Horror Picture Show"

other than that, I will say no more.

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Response to Glorfindel (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:44 PM

18. He was good in Fight Club and

That Steve Martin movie about the traveling evangelist show, Leap of Faith?

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:17 PM

4. dropped this in the other thread but..

Its so good no one should mind watching twice!


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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:51 PM

22. I remember watching that back in the day and feeling sorry for the guy. Something seemed very off.nt

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:18 PM

5. Never heard of him.

...and I'm 72 y.o.

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Response to WheelWalker (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:29 PM

9. this video/song is iconic (imo). and delightful.



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Response to orleans (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:25 PM

36. Banned at our high school

Interestingly it is Ellen Foley's vocals in the video but Karla Devito was lip syncing.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:42 PM

41. Karla Toured With Him

She was a HS friend of the husband of one of wife's best friends. They were in drama club together at a HS about 20 miles from here.
Ellen wasn't interested in going on tour, Karla won the audition. Hence, the live footage in the video with her on stage.
She toured with him several times.
Another fun fact: Ellen's voice appears among the La-las on BOC'S "Don't Fear The Reaper".

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:45 PM

43. those are fun facts! nt

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Response to ripcord (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:43 PM

42. i don't remember hearing about the dubbed vocal

that's interesting.

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Response to WheelWalker (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:28 PM

38. His name is Robert Paulson

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:20 PM

6. Regardless of politics, some of his early songs are pretty good

I typically don't pay too much attention to the private lived of artist or athletes.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:20 PM

7. I was never a fan.

I don't understand the "legendary" and "super star" status he's been given. Kinda like Kid Rock
Ted Nugent or Kanye.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:25 PM

35. Neither have I.

 

In fact, I have always found him quite repulsive, and that was before I knew anything about his politics. Never really liked his music either.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:34 PM

10. I choose to remember him by the music...

and one of the most amazing concerts I've ever seen...

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Response to bahboo (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:04 PM

24. I can appreciate that mindset

For example, I still love a few of Ted Nugentís songs like Stranglehold and Free For All, heís an amazing guitar player, but you know politically, well I donít even have to explain that!

Meatloaf could put on a great show I bet, seemed high energy from the videos Iíve seen.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:37 PM

11. Everyone is entitled to their opinions

No matter how wrong they may be.

I won't celebrate a death of someone I disagree with; nor will I ignore their faults

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:39 PM

12. What did you feel when Rush Limbaugh died?

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:44 PM

17. Not much

Same for Osama bin Laden. They were highly negative influences in the world and it is a slightly better place without them.

Everyone has the potential for good and to redeem, death ends that opportunity so for that reason I will not celebrate death.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:15 PM

29. Relief

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:21 PM

33. Ditto. nt

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:39 PM

13. Honestly, like many I can only think of that one particular song of his that stands out in my head.

And to be fair, it's not a bad song. It's catchy, well-written and well sung.

Still, it's just one song.

And I know he had multiple albums and multiple songs, but for me, he's just the guy who sung "I'll Do Anything for Love (But I Won't do That.)"

So...yeah. Sung a good song, had some whacked-out political beliefs, and now he's dead (possibly of Covid after failing to vax.) And that's that.


*Oh, and he was in Fight Club. Forgot about that.

Therefore, Sung a good song, was in Fight Club, had some whacked-out political beliefs, and now he's dead (possibly of Covid after failing to vax.) And that's that.



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Response to Tommy Carcetti (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:41 PM

15. I feel the same way about Ted Nugent's music

One song. It's why I call him Mr. "Cat Scratch Fever and nothing else"

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:41 PM

14. meh. I'm not that polarized

That I'm going to hate someone that I otherwise respected just because he voted the wrong way.

Especially if his entire support is characterized as "he said positive things" about the guy I don't like.

I enjoyed his music and feel bad for his family.

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:04 PM

25. I don't care about how he voted

Or even that he went onstage supporting Mittens. Speaking out publicly against climate change and dragging Greta Thunberg then again against covid mandates lowers my opinion of the man considerably however...

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:43 PM

16. I only knew him through the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" and a few other venues.

He always seemed more like a clown than a serious performer. Now I know I was right on.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:45 PM

19. I enjoyed his music. It was fun.

 

And if you have to go to Wiki to know his politics and then have to trash a dead man.

That says more about you.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:48 PM

20. How about Louie Anderson?

 

Are we allowed to feel bad that he died?

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:48 PM

21. I liked some of his music...

But if he died because he was too stupid to get a vaccine.... Then tots and pears.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:00 PM

23. I actually went to see him in his big starring role of "Roadie" back in the day...

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:04 PM

26. If I am limited to artists that agree with me politically, I'm screwed.

As an English teacher, I know that a LOT of writers that I liked were fucking horrible humans. I can still like their art. Expand that to actors and musicians, and it doesn't help the percentages at all.

Robert Paulson got sucked in to the Trump bullshit. I did not like that. Bat Out of Hell is still a groundbreaking album, and I still sing along when a song comes on. I'll probably rewatch Rocky Horror tonight for the umpteenth time.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:18 PM

30. I agree with that. I'm not gonna stop listening to Van Morrison or Clapton I've listened to for 50yr

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:19 PM

31. truth is he was a un-American pos. He seemed pro Putin

I was invited to a concert of his it was like listening to hell. Terrible fking music. I did like the first band Cheap Trick.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:21 PM

32. I usually separate (or at least try to) the art from the artist.

Wagner, T.S. Eliot, Picasso (creepy, creepy guy), it's a long damn list. My argument is that while these guys may have been reprehensible, their art is not.

I'll still give a listen to Bat Out of Hell when the mood strikes, just as I'll re-read The Hollow Men every once and again. Bad people can create good art. Good people can create bad art.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:26 PM

37. Never liked him or his music.

Not surprised if he did die from his own chosen ignorance.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:29 PM

39. He died from Covid. Political beliefs aside I liked him.

Bat Out of Hell was a part of my formative years. May he rest in peace.
His death was preventable and that makes me sad.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:31 PM

40. I don't need the negativity of cheering on someone's death.

May he RIP and condolences to his family..

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